A6-Based Apple Television to Come in Three Sizes Ranging from 32 to 55 Inches?

[JHankwitz]

OLED?

Someone has s*it for brains to believe this. If OLED were practical or useable, Apple would be using it on their iPhones and iPads. Unless Samsung was able to pull off dozens of super miricles, there's just no way there's going to be a 55" OLED.

 

[AlkFoo]

I'm not even close to being qualified as some tech guy... but I think that's the point. Even to the average person this doesn't seem likely.

Why would Apple get into making such a large scale product (TV itself)? "Content" is the biggest issue... We can even get content to our iDevices at this point (at least live content).

I would think that the Apple TV rumors migt be based on some sort of system that goes along with iCloud. If Apple has figured out a way to deal with the content providers in a way that they can provide their devices the ability to access content without the normal "Cable Subscription" than that's a move I can understand. That would, IMO, definitely promote sales of their existing products and any future product they developed in the future.

But building a TV??? I just don't see it! I don't see how much more revoluntionary you can get, under the current state of subscription TV (Congress gave the Cable companies the open door in the 80's, and they haven't looked back).

I think the focus on the devices or media in which you view content is NOT the answer, as much as how you provide it. It wouldn't shock me if Apple developes that before they get into making TV's.

 

[chrmjenkins]

Reasonable:
Ios. 700000 Apps on your TV. Games and all that jazz.
8gig cach/flash
Siri
SmartTV. See Apples patents with their vision. Its really interesting.
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...-an-enhanced-tv-widget-paradigm-for-hdtv.html
Content subscription from iTunes. Dump your cable provider.

Dream:
4K display. Apple alway have liked high resolution displays. A retina 55 inch display is impossible, but 4K is reasonable.
Anybody can produce a 4K screen, but Apple would be the only company that could support it with content.
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BTW: A6
All hints points to that TSMC will manufacture it. Apple got back test wafers from TSMC in june. Since a tapeout is specific for the foundry that manufactures them. If Apple wanted Samsung, they would need to redesign the SoC. Samsung = A5, TSMC = A6.
I don't know when Samsung is delivering 28nm silicon. TSMC have finally started produce final products with 3% of Q4 revenue is 28nm. This means that A6 is technically possible to use Feb/Mars right in time for Ipad3.

The rumors aren't clear on whether Samsung or TSMC won A6, but there are certainly rumors that a huge chunk of TSMC's 28nm capacity has been purchased. However, AMD and Nvidia are both vying for it for their next generation GPU releases.

Absolutely. And I'm not suggesting that they'd use PR422 as their delivery format. But I do remember reading about Apple developing a more consumer oriented codec with the same goals in mind: better image quality at lower bitrates- but I think the tradeoff would be the same: a more powerful processor is needed for the decoding.

I have no doubt apple will eventually do 1080p and it will be based on some sort of compression technology that makes sense. Last I knew, they were open supporters of h264 though.

 

[ownamac]

Apple may come out with tv screens that are in essence giant cinema displays and tightly integrated with iOS and perhaps also Mac OS in some way but if so will also continue to service the bring-your-own-screen crowd with new versions of the current Apple TV puck.

 

[JAT]

Dream:
4K display. Apple alway have liked high resolution displays. A retina 55 inch display is impossible, but 4K is reasonable.

"Retina" display on the phone means you can't see the lines of resolution at normal viewing distances. This has ALWAYS been the goal of TV sets.

 

[adamtheturtle]

Apple alway have liked high resolution displays.

The 13.3" Macbook Pro has the same resolution as the original white 13.3" Macbook from 2006.

 

[aluren]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn9059

same as

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220060007222%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20060007222&RS=DN/20060007222

Kinect style gestures.... stereographic facial recognition .... can we get this on iDevices too?

A sensor for every pixel? On a 55" screen? If they're doing something like that with a display, wouldn't they first do it with the iPhone? I wonder what the functionality will be for a TV to detect you, aside from the video conference. Perhaps it can scan who you are and display a list of channels that only you like? I have no idea but it's an interesting tech.

 

[Digitalclips]

55 was big two years ago. Now I would like to see 70 to 100 inch options from Apple.

 

[bushido]

"starting at ONLY 10.000 $ ... it really is a tv for EVERYONE... isnt it incredible and its so THIN"

 

[BeamWalker]

Wo wants a 32" TV in this priceclass (presumably) ? Even 55" is not exactly big for a high-end model. Apple should know there customers better. Unless they sell their 32" TV for less than 600 $ it is a luxury item - and 32" is not really luxury.

Also I'm not sure about the OLED technology. From what I have seen so far I can't really say that I like the OLED Picture. The picture looks hopelessly oversaturated and completely unrealistic. I hope they gonna tweak this until release.

I'm also curious about 3D. They cannot not integrate it in a high class TV like that, but since the whole point of the TV is it's connectivity they have to have 3D Movies on iTunes - that will be twice the size of a normal movie. That's gonna be a problem for a lot of people since you will be running into bandwidth issues very quickly - especially if they up the resolution to 1080p (which is inevitably gonna happen soon if the whole enterprise wants to stay competetive).

 

[PlipPlop]

Judging from the new Xbox 360 update Apple would be doomed to try and release their own tv. The xbox offers so much more, decent games, social media , movies, tv and full Kinect controls which is a lot better than Suri.

 

[dckcentaur]

Maybe what they are talking about is a TV that is APPLE READY.
A box like a Smart Car/Box Technology that is about the size (Thinness) of a iPhone/iPod touch with no screen that slides in side or back of TV (like a smart card) it will use the TV power source and hooks up directly with no need cables. You will buy the TV like you do now like Best Buy, Costco etc.
Basically a redesigned Apple tv that you simple slide in to your TV.
Think about it Apple is about simple they created the iMac to eliminate the hassle of hooking up monitors to the computer. I agree I don't think apple wants to Stock items as large as a TV in there stores or online. That goes against how there store operates. Just my thoughts and an I sea i had for sometime since owning my first apple tv.

 

[JHankwitz]

Maxing out at 55"?
They better continue to sell external AppleTV boxes.

And either way they need to add Air Play mirroring to OS X.
There is no reason why I shouldn't be able to extend my desktop to an AppleTV.

You've got that right. Everyone switched to a bought big slat screen within the past 4 years. They won't buy another for another 6. That's why 3-D TVs aren't selling well. Apple would have to come out with something unbelieavable extraordinary the get people to trash their recently purchased TVs and replace them with Apple's. Upgrading the seperate Apple TV box is the only option I would go for for several more years.

I'm a freak when it comes to purchasing Apple: Apple II, Apple IIc, 2-Apple III's, Mac SE, Mac IIci, Mac 8500, Mac G3, Mac G4, iMac G5, iMac 27 i7, plus a truckload of iPods, iPhones, etc. I simply won't buy an all-in-one Apple TV until my current 60" Samsung is ready for the trash bucket.

 

[diamond.g]

A 4K projector would be a nice upgrade...

 

[freddiecable]

Building mp3-players?! Building mobile phones!?

U just don't see it?

Well...we might just be surprised. Apple wants to own the experience chain...

But building a TV??? I just don't see it! I don't see how much more revoluntionary you can get, under the current state of subscription TV (Congress gave the Cable companies the open door in the 80's, and they haven't looked back).

 

[ncaissie]

TV's DO NOT need to do ANYTHING but display a picture. Anything else is upgrade-ware. The stuff that makes you want to buy a new TV every year. Sorry, not going to happen. I'll swap out my components all day long but a new TV more frequently than every 7 years? Forget it.

I have an LG 55 Smart 3D TV and it is awesome. I use Netflix all the time. I admit I don’t use the other apps but that is because most cost and are subscription based. For example 3Dee is 3D videos and from the samples they suck and aren’t worth it.

 

[lhunter]

Apple TV, Needs more than a Siri remote

The problem I see for apple with a TV is their ecosystem focus. Apple does not like to talk to other (non Apple) devices. Many of the upper end clients (who will buy a $4,000 TV) don't just have TV's in their livingroom, they also have 7.1 receivers, Bluray players, multiple sound zones, etc...

If Steve said he cracked the code, it means that Apple has more to offer than a Siri enabled remote and an integrated Apple TV. Logitec could implement a voice enabled remote and they are better positioned to do so.

Like everyone else, I am a big Apple client and am curious to see what they deliver. Knowing Steve, the quote from his book was intended to send the competition down the wrong path.

 

[Ryth]

TV's DO NOT need to do ANYTHING but display a picture.

You know...the same thing was said about the phone...Phones DO NOT need to do ANYTHING but make and receive calls.

We saw how that has turned out.

You are thinking in the past and only by what you know currently. You have no clue what Jobs or Ives and the software team has come up with. If it's like the phone in the way it changed the game, then it could very well be that TVs will never be the same again.

 

[JHankwitz]

The 13.3" Macbook Pro has the same resolution as the original white 13.3" Macbook from 2006.

And it doesn't need to have a higher resolution because of the viewing distance, usually two feet. Retina displays are needed when viewing close up, like one foot or less.

 

[Ryth]

You've got that right. Everyone switched to a bought big slat screen within the past 4 years. They won't buy another for another 6. That's why 3-D TVs aren't selling well.

3DTVs aren't selling well for multiple reasons...mostly the recession and how you have to upgrade your blu-ray player to a 3D one and also wear 3D glasses and even how there are multiple 3D types. There is a whole eco-system that most don't want to address/purchase just for the fad of 3D.

 

[JHankwitz]

You know...the same thing was said about the phone...Phones DO NOT need to do ANYTHING but make and receive calls.

We saw how that has turned out.

Walkman's do not have to do anything but play cassette tapes.
Computer's do not have to display anything but calculate, sort, and display letters and numbers.
Computer store's do not have to do anything but stock and sell computers.
This list can go on forever. It's called evolution.

 

[bushido]

And it doesn't need to have a higher resolution because of the viewing distance, usually two feet. Retina displays are needed when viewing close up, like one foot or less.

so u never watch a movie or edit pictures on your laptop? i love my 13 inch mbp and would never change back to windows but i must admit that those higher solutions on vaios look amazing

 

[adildacoolset]

I've got a good source on a rumor that Apple is building a moon base, what to post that one too?

Same, my source that has asked himself to be unnamed but is 'Familiar with the matter' has reported that Apple will indeed build one, and the nuclear reactor will be manufactured by LG(No jokes, they do make reactors). That was confirmed after Tim Cook had a meeting with the LG CEO yesterday, despite later claims by the LG executives that it was just to do with the manufacturing of displays.

 

[JHankwitz]

3DTVs aren't selling well for multiple reasons...mostly the recession and how you have to upgrade your blu-ray player to a 3D one and also wear 3D glasses and even how there are multiple 3D types. There is a whole eco-system that most don't want to address/purchase just for the fad of 3D.

You're right, and until people are willing to trash all they have in order to do an upgrade, they won't do it. That won't happen unless the new stuff is so extraordinarly better that it's worth it. Apple would have to come up with something surpassing the 2nd coming of Christ in order to be successful with an all-in-one TV.

 

[jwdsail]

Only 32 to 55 inches?

For me, this alone makes me question the rumor. (Sony's high end TVs range form 46-65", Apple would want to match Sony on the high-end, right?)

Most people in Apple's target audience already have 30+ TVs, many in the 40-46" range. I'm happy with my 40" Sony, but have been looking and liking the Sony 54" XBR HX929 (there's a memorable name) and just may pick one up as a factory refurb in one or two years...(picked up my 40" XBR5 on refurb for $1400) depending on what Apple does...

I'd rather see Apple put out 2 lines of high-end displays, 1080p and 4K, ranging in size from 46-72", and bundling an improved AppleTV box (with support for apps+ some local storage.. 32GB?) with them...