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A7X-Based iPad and iPad Mini Expected to Launch in 4Q 2013, Lower-Cost A6 iPad Mini to Follow in 2014
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For those of you dissing old Kuo, here is his road map from JANUARY this year. It looks like he got a fair bit right. I'd definitely give the guy a pass based on how long ago he predicted this.
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/1...nes-retina-ipad-mini-all-retina-macbook-pros/
I was under the impression the Apple rechargeable batteries are just rebranded SANYO ENELOOPs. Anybody care to correct me?
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/1...nes-retina-ipad-mini-all-retina-macbook-pros/
I was under the impression the Apple rechargeable batteries are just rebranded SANYO ENELOOPs. Anybody care to correct me?
Agreed. In fact, I've held a theory since the Mini was released that $329 was the target price needed for the retina version (whenever it comes out) and not necessarily the existing 1st gen.
Apple doesn't like raising prices, so early adopters of the Mini have actually been paying a higher price than it would have been if Apple didn't need to consider its future development and associated marketing.
As the iPad 3 didn't increase in price when it went retina, neither will the Mini.
What in god's name are you talking about?
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Yes, I don't have one too. I'm thinking getting one this year, if the storage starts at 32GB probably I will get one. 610 (almost 800usd) for 32GB model is a bit of a ripoff. Why they charge 100 for something that costs a 4~8 USD?
Even spending 500 (assuming that the base model will be 32GB) will be a heck of a decision. Being a student with 0 income is not smart to spend money on a little toy.
seems he got a fairbit wrong actually. Literally the only thing right on his calendar is macbook air and maybe imac and mac mini
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Agreed. In fact, I've held a thory since the Mini was released that $329 was the target price needed for the retina version (whenever it comes out) and not necessarily the existing 1st gen.
Apple doesn't like raising prices, so early adopters of the Mini have actually been paying a higher price than it would have been if Apple didn't need to consider its future development and associated marketing.
As the iPad 3 didn't increase in price when it went retina, neither will the Mini.
yet, macbook pro retina did raise in prices
You are indeed correct! I was referring to their batteries in mobile devices. Lol, yes.. I am aware that Apple doesn't manufacture their own double a batteries! =P
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To be fair... that is a much higher price point product... & they decided to spin it off into its own category w/ solid state and other upgrades. They did NOT simply add a higher res screen, then raise the price.
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No.
For heaven's sake.... You are currently ON MacRumors.. you should know that if a colored iPad were going to show up in 5 days, somebody would have seen it being manufactured at the factory.
Some of your other product guesses are feasible, but there is NO chance they will all be introduced at the same event. I think we have 3 total unveilings before year end.....
I would doubt the A7X being in the iPad mini. The only spec difference other than screen size between the full-size iPad and the mini would be ram, unless they bumped storage on the larger iPad without increasing cost. Otherwise there wouldnt be much to justify the price difference between the two.
My guess is that Apple is looking to differentiate on battery life, as seen with the improvements with the MacBook Air and the work in Mavericks to further increase battery life. They've been trying to work on battery life for a full fledged iOS device in the rumoured iWatch, and perhaps the iPad mini and iPad will reap the benefits first in the form of the A7 which is said to have a much smaller performance increase over previous generations. I wonder if the real USP of the A7 is power consumption, which would allow the smaller battery in the mini to support a retina display and still have great battery life, as well as giving the iPad a battery life that's more impressive than it currently has.
My guess is that Apple is looking to differentiate on battery life, as seen with the improvements with the MacBook Air and the work in Mavericks to further increase battery life. They've been trying to work on battery life for a full fledged iOS device in the rumoured iWatch, and perhaps the iPad mini and iPad will reap the benefits first in the form of the A7 which is said to have a much smaller performance increase over previous generations. I wonder if the real USP of the A7 is power consumption, which would allow the smaller battery in the mini to support a retina display and still have great battery life, as well as giving the iPad a battery life that's more impressive than it currently has.
Actually, a LOT of college students are using iPads instead of notebook computers. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it as "a little toy".
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I say same...
Except- iPad mini Retina stays @ current $329 & current mini drops to $249-$279
it's difficult. Apple already said the ipad mini is their lowest margin product they produce. ipad mini's didn't all of a sudden get that much easier to produce over the past year.
Yeah time to stop listening to Kuo now.
"KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has a fairly solid track record in predicting Apple's product plans"
It's similar to how psychics operate. They make a prediction and if they're right one time, everyone forgets they were wrong a dozen times before and then everyone says that they're the best and know everything, when in fact, they're just predicting like the rest of us.
Solid track record my ass.
"KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has a fairly solid track record in predicting Apple's product plans"
It's similar to how psychics operate. They make a prediction and if they're right one time, everyone forgets they were wrong a dozen times before and then everyone says that they're the best and know everything, when in fact, they're just predicting like the rest of us.
Solid track record my ass.
I believe if you look HARDER at his past records, his analysis has merely been random guesses that could changed and go wrong most of the time.
They're only get a bit more accurate when the real deal is approaching. But then everyone else also get the same news.
In short, nothing special about Ming's analysis.
If these rumours about cheaper ipad are true then Apple is starting to do what it did once without Steve Jobs: introducing confusing variations of the same product. Lower priced, higher priced, Mac Performa, Mac Centris, Mac Quadra and whatever else. It's wrong. When Jobs came back in 1997 he slashed everything to just 4 models: iMac, Power Mac, iBook and PowerBook. There can't be iPhone Pro or iPad Pro, so there should be only one iPhone (exc previous models) and only one iPad. We have yet to see the result of introducing iPhone 5C.
Well....... IF you believe this guy's theory. Looks like most of us so far DO NOT.
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I disagree. I feel it is needed to keep pace with Android. Keep most everything in the iPhone/iPad the same... offer a bunch of screen sizes to fit people's needs/tastes/preferences. Sounds like a winning (and non-confusing) idea to me!
First, iPad mini was targeted for early summer, then it was Sept-Nov, then Spring of 2014 and now it is slated for the Fall again. It was supposed to have A6, but now A7X. The production issues were supposedly what delayed the iPhone launch, yet it is getting released 3 months after first iOS developer previews and in mid September, same as last year. A casual observer might think this is all deliberate timing or pattern, but of course Kuo assures that it was the production issues.
In the meantime, his prediction for an iMac refresh in August has not come to pass, but there is still time for his Haswell Macbook Pro with retina prediction for mid-Sept. It is fairly easy to assume that Apple is unlikely to launch new Macbooks without an event and that it would not hold one just a week after the iPhone announcement and a week before the actual launch, so I doubt this will prove Kuo right, either.
I have no doubt he has more industry sources than I do, but his track record is no better than mine.
Of course tha is brading diluiton.
Sony is expert in that field, they have so many of products with confusing names and numbers even some change between contries
This doesn't sound like Apple. Would I buy a small android tablet, because the iPad mini has no high-resolution screen? Of course not! Apple knows that, everybody knows that, why don't analysts know that?
I would wait till the inevitable iPad mini with Retina display arrives. Early 2014 or Late 2013 doesn't make a difference. I was ready to wait at least three generations for this to happen. If it comes out before christmas, I could pretend its to be praising the birth of our savior. But no one would believe me, since I'm the atheist antichrist.
In no way an Apple customer would switch platforms, because of three more months of waiting time. I'm waiting here for the Retina version since the very first rumors of an smaller iPad surfaced. When no one knew if it be called the iPad Mini? or iPad Air? I'm also already waiting for the 4K iMac without knowing his proper name.
Tis the season
At this point these predictions are conservative. Essentially Kuo is saying there will be iterations of current products. It would be more surprising if these were not the predictions.
iPad Mini is a new "line"?
At first, I doubted that Apple would release a Retina screenequipped iPad mini with the same chip as the new full-size iPad. I guess that's because many of us think of the iPad mini as "subordinate" to the bigger iPad.
But what if Apple's thoughts on that have changed? What if the iPad mini will be getting its own "product tree" [please excuse the amateur terms]?
Right now, there's a Retina version and a non-Retina version of the full-size iPad. The same could happen to the iPad mini; i.e., the Retina version of the iPad mini would be the top-of-the-line model for the mini line, justifying the top-of-the-line processor too. The non-Retina version would be the low-cost model, with upgraded [but not equal] specs.
What do you guys think?
At first, I doubted that Apple would release a Retina screenequipped iPad mini with the same chip as the new full-size iPad. I guess that's because many of us think of the iPad mini as "subordinate" to the bigger iPad.
But what if Apple's thoughts on that have changed? What if the iPad mini will be getting its own "product tree" [please excuse the amateur terms]?
Right now, there's a Retina version and a non-Retina version of the full-size iPad. The same could happen to the iPad mini; i.e., the Retina version of the iPad mini would be the top-of-the-line model for the mini line, justifying the top-of-the-line processor too. The non-Retina version would be the low-cost model, with upgraded [but not equal] specs.
What do you guys think?
Ya, I suppose you are right...there was never this many options...well, only if we forget about the iPod nano, the iPod photo, the iPod video, the iPod shuffle, iPod touch, MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, newer iPhone, or previous generations for less money...I forgot how simple Apple used to be. Feel free to go back to HP and Dell! They do have better options...like that dell computer that is made of plastic running windows 8! It is so cool how the screen detaches to become a tablet! I think disposable laptops are the way of the future anyway. And out of curiosity how good are Dell and HP phones? If options are what you want to stay away from than you should stick to them!