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You can't compare CPU speed based on the clock speed. As for GPU, we need to know the FLOPS.



Ok, but, what it would be interesting to know is the 9.7 ram speed, maybe that could compensate regarding similar user experience than what the 12.9 offer, if that is true then is a well deserve pro label, if not, then is just a bad excuse tu spike up the price.
 
Warning: If you are getting worked up about this, you are probably a geek.

Not necessarily of the coding kind either.

Maybe it me writing code here and there. I put in time metrics since I will admit to having the most efficient algorithm or code on try 1....hell try 5 or more tbh. Measure time, see it be ugly, try to fix it best I can in code revisions/rewrites.

Some code has been go to for years. Has the time metrics and....a few more .x ghz of cpu over upgrades over the years not shattering speed records. Its very minor. Especially on small data sets. Hello world can only go so fast I like to say. Obv I am not benchmarking on hello world though lol.

TBH to see what I get for my money for the . ghz boost I have to load up very large data sets (and I mean 100 mb + large, pure data, .csv style) to see times shave off. 20 minute job (In R I use the go to packages...I assume several PhD's by version 3.X on the project can write code better than I to not run an analysis like crap) ...yeah a .x ghz or two might shave a minute or so off. But it has 20 minutes to shave off quite a few quarter seconds here and there.


Just not seeing many of the people doing this on an iPad. To be honest I never saw the shock and awe of A9 in the IPP versus my mini 4. I side by sided them same apps for a good while. Apps were not omfg must buy faster. Eyeballing it...was about the same really.

Yes know of the great benchmarks. But...who is spamming AES encryption that much to have that great benchmark be of actual use. Many workflows...this would be the last step on data export. Its the 20 other steps before that matter the most. And if that app designers UI code is less than great...its going to run like crap whether your proc is x.3 or x.5 (where x is some constant). Crap code is crap code...can only muscle it so much before it wins imo.
 
2.4 vs 2.5 not that much of a difference...um.. GPU is under-clocked too... that's a big difference.

Seems its not only Intel that does this then... Everyone's in the business.
 
Ok, but, what it would be interesting to know is the 9.7 ram speed, maybe that could compensate regarding similar user experience than what the 12.9 offer, if that is true then is a well deserve pro label, if not, then is just a bad excuse tu spike up the price.

Of course 'pro' is just a marketing thing, and that fact they are phasing out the 'Air' line of products. It basically just an iPad Air 3. Still not enough to move me off my iPad Air, or my FIVE year old MBP 15" with Samsung SSD EVO!
 
No...you really couldn't except into the ground. But it's sweet that you think you could. Here's a participation trophy so your feelings don't get hurt

Well you really don't understand the concept of a CEO then. A CEO can do two things, push their own agenda, or look to their advisors for council and make a decision based on statistics. Yes, I'm 100% confident I could do that. The CEO doesn't just say hey were making a TV, he has colleagues approach him with the concept, and Ideas and from there decides to invest in the product/idea or not. With all due respect, you are wrong.
 
Whats the point of them increasing the ipad price then ? It's basically an upgraded ipad air. The only thing pro about it is the name.
 
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With the two iPads released in this order, some might get the impression that Apple is 'crippling' the 9.7" iPad Pro. But if the two iPads were released in an inverse order, the reports would be that the 12.9" iPad Pro has a slightly faster clocked A9X processor and nobody would think the 9.7" iPad Pro were intentionally 'crippled'. And really, the difference is 4%, hardly something Apple could or would use to make the 12.9" iPad Pro more attractive.
I think we'll see this "tick tock" pattern next year. In the fall we'll probably get a new iPad Pro 2 with A10x, fancy camera and screen from 9.7", and maybe a Mini with vanilla A9. Then the 9.7" iPad Pro 2 will be the "Spring refresh" with slightly slower processor but other systems upgraded.

I suspect the pattern will always be to put the higher power chips in the bigger more expensive model first, then leap frog the other features with the smaller Pro model. you'll notice they've also nipped the full size model iPad by a year now, probably to address sagging sales and let a cheaper Air 2 and Mini 4 take more market share. If I was buying a NEW iPad I would jump at the new iPad 9.7" Pro because it also has the Pencil support. If you're not in the market for the Pencil support then it's clear Apple is basically taking the year off and letting A8 chips (Mini 4/Air 2) hold the market for another year.
 
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Plus the use of the word "underclocked" is inflammatory and misleading. The processor in the iPad Pro 12" inch is likely underclocked too and for the same reasons you mentioned plus a likely desire to hit high yields. The real question in my mind is how does the SE perform battery wise. I could see apps draining the battery pretty fast if all of the chips capabilities are used.

Maybe they ought to borrow corporate jargon and call it "right clocked" :p
 
Whats the point of them increasing the ipad price then ? It's basically an upgraded ipad air. The only thing pro about it is the name.
What's the rationale for Apple having to maintain the price?

From what I see, Apple keeps the price constant when they can and raise it when they can't. Lots of R&D goes into implementing new features every year, and sometimes, the cheaper cost of components such as flash isn't enough to offset the increased costs of research.

So far, the iPad has simply gotten thinner and lighter, with a faster processor and the occasional ram boost. This time, we get a faster processor, way better cameras, better speakers, smart connector, pencil support, all for an extra $50 over what it would have otherwise cost.

Seems fair to me.
 
Good God. The new iPad pro has 3.1 M pixels compared to 5.6 M on the larger one and is underclocked by a tiny amount. Anything that has to do with GPU work will be way smoother and faster on the smaller model. When a difference is even possible to notice of course, but considering Apple makes Macbook Pros that can't even handle OS X's transparency effects I wouldn't be surprised if the extra GPU power/pixel helps a lot down the road. The small underclock would maybe diminish performance on the new model by a tiny amount for uniquely CPU bound tasks, but that's it. Overall the newer one is more future proof.

There are two more active GPU cores on the iPad Pro 12.9 inch,so you are wrong.....so 12 active GPU cores on the large iPad Pro vs 10 active cores on the small so it's well compensated for and will have better performance than the smaller iPad Pro especially with the 4gb of ram compared to 2 gb ram.....
 
Whats the point of them increasing the ipad price then ? It's basically an upgraded ipad air. The only thing pro about it is the name.

And the ability to use the pencil and the smart connector being on it. But other than those, yeah.
 
I don't really know about y'all but during casual usage at the house I can't keep the brightness all the way up on my 12 ipp (just too super bright). The screen is amazing and so beautifully bright! Hard to imagine the 9 inch model doing anything more outstanding than what they have done with the screen already on the most recent iPad/MacBooks.
 
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