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imho
too soon to declare a "v shaped recovery"
do your own due diligence
its your money
 
I gathered that, but how is Apples share rise exaggerated. As I said, rebounding was to be expected.

Rebounding right now wasn’t expected given the current circumstances, which makes it the perfect time to buy. Many are approaching all time highs, or have tripled from their lows (thanks CCL). Some Apple “investors” here are too focused on Apple and not the market as a whole.
 
What exactly are you indicating that is being exaggerated? Please be specific. Seems to me growth is due to a rebound from the Pandemic.
What about the worldwide depression that looks like it is about to hit?
When many western countries are expecting GDP drops in excess of 10% and huge rises in unemployment, something has got to give and discressionary spending will be the first to go. All those subscriptions? They'll be the first to go. Next will be luxuries which is where for many Apple kit sits.
Apple has more revenue from outside the USA than from inside it. What happens when that falls off a cliff?
 
Why would I upgrade? None of the current Iphones have headphone jacks that 90% of the population demands.

Macs are also going to use weak ARM chips to save a few bucks for the bottom line.

Apple used to be a technology company that meant something to people. Now they're simply a means to squeeze every last dime from an unemployed world.

Well, I miss the headphone jack too but I don't think 90% does.

Even if performance kinda holds up, 6S has crossed the end of its lifetime in terms of camera and battery life, the two things 11/Pro actually improved.

As for Scrooge Mc Cook cutting back on quality, details, features and squeezing every possible dime to fatten those margins so he can buy back more of his own stock.. well, can't argue with that really, that's what Apple is nowadays.
 
If Apple stock gets on a little run, are we going to get these all-time high threads daily?

I thought we were going to get lucky and not get yet another thread about it. Tim Hardwick only posts these to drive web traffic for recycled comments :D
 
with no second quarter guidance, you can't fail come earnings season in July
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with what is going on with Hertz and CHK, you can't believe anything in this market of robinhood traders
 
Who remembers when the usual suspects were proclaiming $90/share was overvalued?

What's worse is some of the same people who can't grasp basic economics work in investment firms too.
 
One day (dont know when), this bubble would (shall) explode big time and the consequence for the economy can be catrastrophic. It is scary. Apple definately is worths hundreds of billions but 1.4 trillion is way to much value.
 
the profit margin goes way up when the intel chips are gone. shoulda bought it when it bottomed out in march. I talked the talk then but...........

Still has room to run. I bought most of mine in the 2000s and wished I would have bought more in the 90s when it was down to $13, before the 7 to 1 split.
 
Dropping Intel for their own ARM CPU will save Apple $2-$4 billion a year

Financial impact will be huge

Maybe they will put them in low power notebooks, aka what the MacBook was. But I don't see them ever putting these little mobile chips in anything that needs to get work done. People just love drool over synthetic geekbench results...

Not to mention the whole idea of the past 14 years of being able to virtualize windows easy, or run in bootcamp, for those who need software not available for Mac...
 
One day (dont know when), this bubble would (shall) explode big time and the consequence for the economy can be catrastrophic. It is scary. Apple definately is worths hundreds of billions but 1.4 trillion is way to much value.

More people working at home over the next few years, more people consuming content at home because they can't go out. It's easy to see how technology companies can benefit from all that's going on right now.
 
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We are in a recession, so the market is not based on any reality right now.

Markets are forward looking. The idea is buy now and sell higher in the future. And if people thinks the future looks better than today the markets go up.
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Hertz was in trouble before the thing came along, they only needed a small nudge to push them over the edge.

And Hertz has had a post filing run up. I bought Bear Sterns after they declared bankruptcy and made a lot of money in a few days. People almost always overreact to a bankruptcy rumor or filling. Then when the process continues in an orderly fashion shares move up.
 
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If Apple stock gets on a little run, are we going to get these all-time high threads daily?

yup. Along with the daily articles about how to rearrange your app icons and sketchy rumor from anonymous unreliable leakers.
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We are in a recession, so the market is not based on any reality right now.

How many times have we heard this absurd argument from analysts and self-proclaimed financial experts.

Stocks don’t have any intrinsic value beyond the liquidation value of a company. That is the case in a recession or in times of strong economic growth, so it could be said that stocks never trade on “reality,” whatever that means.
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One day (dont know when), this bubble would (shall) explode big time and the consequence for the economy can be catrastrophic. It is scary. Apple definately is worths hundreds of billions but 1.4 trillion is way to much value.

Admit that you have NO idea how to value a business, and that your conclusion is based only on the fact that the word “trillion” implies a big number.
 
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More people working at home over the next few years, more people consuming content at home because they can't go out. It's easy to see how technology companies can benefit from all that's going on right now.
True. But I like to see growth driven by genuine increase of business and userbase, and not a pandemic which may be over (or not) in a few months. There are no new products (merely updates) and the userbase appears to increase really slowly in the last quarters. This increase in value does not appear to be sustainable, that's my point.
 
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Apple used to be a technology company that meant something to people. Now they're simply a means to squeeze every last dime from an unemployed world.
Seems like the strategy is working properly based on where the stock is going.
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If it all gets sold on layaway, this stock will end up as stable as a Ponzi scheme....
Or, alternatively, not.
 
It was as low as $225 just in mid March during the height of the pandemic.
I guess most were seeing the end of the world instead of the light at the end of the tunnel.
 
Who really buys an iPhone at a time that you can't even go anywhere for the foreseeable future? I would have cancelled my phone plan if I wasn't on a 2 year contract.

This market is the most overvalued one in the last 51 years driven by Robinhood traders and the fed.
 
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What exactly are you indicating that is being exaggerated? Please be specific. Seems to me growth is due to a rebound from the Pandemic.

Except there has been no rebound, globally or within the US. Cases continue to rise in many population and economic centers across multiple continents, including India, Brazil, South Africa.

And anyone with respected epidemiology credentials is warning that the US reopened too soon and too recklessly, telegraphed by resurgence of new cases across a number of states.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m as happy with AAPL stock rebounding as any other shareholder, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense weighing the facts and gravity of the situation.
 
Dropping Intel for their own ARM CPU will save Apple $2-$4 billion a year

Financial impact will be huge
More like $3.30 Billion to $4.56 Billion based on the forbes forecast https://dashboards.trefis.com/no-lo...o-lose-if-apple-deploys-its-own-chips-for-mac
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There is a more worrying aspect for the rest of the Industry, learning from the past, Industry tends to follow suit with Apple. So if Apple drops Intel chips in favour of ARM it is entirely possible that the rest of the Industry will start hunting for a Desktop class ARM CPU supplier for PC's aswell. Which means Investing in Qualcomm is a good idea it might be the next Intel.

But this also means Bad news for both Intel and AMD investors, especially AMD which was on a recovery trajectory. Might soon need to start developing a Desktop Class CPU for the ARM architecture. This also means in the coming yrs maybe XBOX and PS6 or PS7 too would need a entirely different APU based on ARM, the future is quite interesting for consumers but not so much for the Dinosaurs of the Industry. I am kind of Happy that a terrible architecture like Intel's X86 that costs more to develop would finally be out of the way for a superior CPU Architecture like ARM.
 
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Maybe they will put them in low power notebooks, aka what the MacBook was. But I don't see them ever putting these little mobile chips in anything that needs to get work done. People just love drool over synthetic geekbench results...

Not to mention the whole idea of the past 14 years of being able to virtualize windows easy, or run in bootcamp, for those who need software not available for Mac...
Who says Apple will use “little mobile chips” lol. The chips Apple uses will have appropriate power budgets and performance, not to worry 🙂

And Apple knows exactly how many of their customers are using other OSes. If it is a large enough segment to matter, Apple will accommodate it. But my guess is you’re talking well under 10%.
 
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