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Financial papers (Wall St Journal, Forbes, etc.) have been pumping Apples’s stock prices both up & down since Apple became public. It’s never Apple doing this. This is just, this weeks, more of the same. I’m sure these financial papers have also agreed on when they will be releasing the next negative Apple report. All so the owners of those papers become ever more wealthy at everyone else’s expense.
 
While that's good and all, I care more about working conditions. How many Apple employees are full time vs. part time? How many work multiple jobs, how many on food stamps, etc.? I would think that a person who can devote their whole work time to Apple instead of multiple jobs, as well as have enough for rest & relaxation, would be much more productive and give better quality productivity. But what do I know? I'm just a naive guy from middle of nowhere. I just wish society wasn't so "Businesses main job is to maximize profits for shareholders"
Apple is not Amazon. It's one of the best employers in the world. Even with a large number of retail employees, it is usually voted among the top companies to work for.
 
I haven't posted to these board in years, but this story pulled me out of lurker mode, just this once.

The assertion that investors pricing AAPL today are looking to a product that doesn't exist, is only rumored to possibly exist in the far distant future, and at very best, can't have any impact whatsoever on earnings for at least five years, is totally absurd. It's rare that investors look much beyond three months for anything that is even remotely predictable, and a car from Apple, just isn't. Not even close. If you must find a reason why AAPL was up today, try seeking out some of the near-term forecasts for their current product sales in the current quarter, which has always been the most important one for the company throughout its history. The answer will be there, I promise. It won't feature a car, I promise that too.

AAPL investor since 1997.
 
Since when has Apple turn into a stock pumper? Who think Apple can have a full self driving car by 2025 has no idea about real technology. Where is Apple data to this off? Their 5 cars on the road isn’t even good enough to compete with Waymo and GM’s Cruise. It’s so easy to manipulate the misinformed. LMAO. Apple former car project head just left them for GM or Ford I can’t remember which on. You think he would do that if he believes they are close to being full automatic? NOT a chance, then they hired a former Tesla guy to head the project who got fired for being terrible. Good luck and don’t believe everything you read. This rumor is announced 3 times a year and nothing happens, earlier this year it was 2024 but now it’s 2025? I bet when Tesla surpass Apple in market cap in 2022/2023 we will finally see a picture of this car that they will not manufacture, why? Because Apple only care about money and being on top. They will lose that top spot soon tho. Apple is no competition for Tesla and that’s fact, it will be very obvious soon.
Never say never!
 
I haven't posted to these board in years, but this story pulled me out of lurker mode, just this once.

The assertion that investors pricing AAPL today are looking to a product that doesn't exist, is only rumored to possibly exist in the far distant future, and at very best, can't have any impact whatsoever on earnings for at least five years, is totally absurd. It's rare that investors look much beyond three months for anything that is even remotely predictable, and a car from Apple, just isn't. Not even close. If you must find a reason why AAPL was up today, try seeking out some of the near-term forecasts for their current product sales in the current quarter, which has always been the most important one for the company throughout its history. The answer will be there, I promise. It won't feature a car, I promise that too.

AAPL investor since 1997.

By Mark Gurman, November 18, 2021, 12:26 PM EST,

Except the stock jumped when the news broke. Jump in the stocks app and see what happened around that time. That’s not rocket science. And it’s just a one day quick reaction. These moves are normal in stock market.

Granted it’s a foolish reaction. There’s no such thing as a fully autonomous car now and won’t be in 2025 or even later. This is the rumor that keeps on giving for apple though. What’s even more highly likely is apple will never release a car period.
 
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Investors are no doubt looking toward the potential impact of Apple's entry into the massive automobile market, but any launch is still a number of years away, with Apple's rumored target of 2025 reportedly seen as optimistic even by some within the company.”
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Who is the article referring to, when it says ‘reportedly seen as optimistic even by some within the company?’ Who is Some? It’s not exactly clear who they’re referring to.
 
By Mark Gurman, November 18, 2021, 12:26 PM EST,

Except the stock jumped when the news broke. Jump in the stocks app and see what happened around that time. That’s not rocket science. And it’s just a one day quick reaction. These moves are normal in stock market.

Granted it’s a foolish reaction. There’s no such thing as a fully autonomous car now and won’t be in 2025 or even later. This is the rumor that keeps on giving for apple though. What’s even more highly likely is apple will never release a car period.
You are right about one thing, it isn't rocket science, it's news that actually matters


Note that this news has nothing to do with a product that may or may not appear five years from now, but about strong demand in the current quarter for the products Apple actually sells now in the markets that most matter to Apple. The reaction to this forecast isn't foolish, it's predictable.

The trick, such as it is, is knowing which stories are actually important. The car rumors may be sexy, but in financial terms, they are totally irrelevant.
 
Sell your stock and buy it back in 2 weeks when it dips again because there isn't anything substantial yet.
 
Financial papers (Wall St Journal, Forbes, etc.) have been pumping Apples’s stock prices both up & down since Apple became public. It’s never Apple doing this. This is just, this weeks, more of the same. I’m sure these financial papers have also agreed on when they will be releasing the next negative Apple report. All so the owners of those papers become ever more wealthy at everyone else’s expense.
Apple doing buybacks no matter what the price is, burning cash in the process, that’s also pushing the price per share. Apple is financially engineering their stock
 
Apple is definitely not doomed :) wait till the holidays are over.

Is Microsoft still the most valuable company today? In market value?
I believe Microsoft is still the most valuable company; Apple is not far behind.
Tesla is steadily catching: maybe a future Tesla phone will bump them up to number 1 in the next 5-10 years. Imagine a phone that does not rely on AT&T, Sprint or any Cell Tower.
Microsoft and Apple have been very kind to me over the last 5 years, 3 more good years and I'm buying a place in Venice, Italy. :)
 
Fun Apple stock story. In ~1998, purchased one share of AAPL but paid extra for the paper certificate to hang on a wall, so about $40. I lost the paper share, never bothered to track it down, and forgot about it. Two years ago the state of Georgia indicated they were holding money in my name. Submitted the paperwork and received a check for about $2500 from the sale of the stock. Apparently the brokerage firm had been trying to track me down for years but eventually turned over the stock share to the state. It was a very pleasant surprise!
Sad fact: that same share would be worth about $17,584 today.
 
Apple is not Amazon. It's one of the best employers in the world. Even with a large number of retail employees, it is usually voted among the top companies to work for.
That may be true, but I also have to wonder about its suppliers. Doesn't Apple use Foxconn, and Foxconn needed to install suicide nets? Given Apple's resources, you'd think that they could demand better employee benefits for its suppliers. Reminds me of a saying I heard: "You can't become Bruce Wayne/Batman without becoming Lex Luthor first"
 
Just wait till someone invents a driverless car with blockchain, solar, vegan, carbon neutral, quantum, meta, vr....that company will be worth a 1000 gazillion billion trillion.
 
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