Able to call all my favourites from lock screen when locked, bug?

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  1. kristoffer4 macrumors 6502a

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    Is it a bug in ios 10 that I am able to call all my favourites from the lock screen even when the phone is locked?
     
  2. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    You can make calls from the lock screen using Siri or taking action on a missed call notification, so it doesn't seem like it would be a bug to be able to do it from the favorites widget (if the Today screen is allowed to be accessible when locked).
     
  3. Corgirat macrumors member

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    Everything else on lock screen asks for password or touchid except calling contacts on favorites. I really think it should not allow calls to be made mistakenly and should require touchid also beforehand. What if your child is messing around with you phone..
     
  4. LordQ Suspended

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    Great, I thought I was having a bug. Favourite calls should require Touch ID / Passcode. What if someone steals your phone and tries to extortionate, say, your mum?
     
  5. Corgirat macrumors member

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    It might be a bug. I hope they fix this.
     
  6. Paddle1 macrumors 68030

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    Why would it be a bug? You can call anyone from the lock screen using Siri or a missed call notification, this was the case before iOS 10 as well.
     
  7. boltjames macrumors 68040

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    There is a way to disable all access to the widgets panel you are referring to by requiring a passcode or Touch ID, it's in Settings.

    You can also remove Phone Favorites from the widgets menu by going down to the bottom of the widgets page, clicking Edit, and deleting it.

    BJ
     
  8. Corgirat macrumors member

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    If I disable it, it's gone when iPhone is unlocked also. That's not what I want to do. I went to the setting but there's no option to require touchid for lock screen.
     
  9. Corgirat macrumors member

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    Can someone please tell me what I can do to require touchid to call out on favorite when phone is locked? Please?? I still want the favorite to show there but I don't want baby to be calling on people because it doesn't require password or Touch ID.
     
  10. boltjames, Sep 15, 2016
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    Go to Settings > Touch ID & Passcode > "Allow Access When Locked" > Uncheck "Today View"

    This will disable the swipe-right widgets screen when the phone is locked and enable it (along with Phone Favorites) when it's unlocked. There is no way to selectively require the Phone Favorites widget to use a passcode. It's not a bug, it's a feature. Like the Camera, Apple has decided that immediate access to the Phone is paramount over privacy.

    BJ
     
  11. Corgirat macrumors member

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    That's what I don't understand when you say "selectively" require phone favorites widget to use a passcode. Everything else requires passcode there. Can you please tap calendar, reminder, weather? It first requires touchid then guides you to that app right away. I want the same for the phone call, that's all. This is "selectively" not asking passcode on favorites widget.
     
  12. cola79 macrumors regular

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    Why is it impossible to uncheck homekit in the show on lockscreen settings.

    Another bug as it seems.
     
  13. sbailey4, Sep 15, 2016
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    Hmm good find. Same here I would report it. Curious, do you actually use Home control? Wondering if you dont then you cannot use that switch because it wouldn't really apply? I dont use home control so the control panel #3 never appears and of course I cannot flip that switch. It may be because HC isnt being used.
     
  14. boltjames macrumors 68040

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    What I am saying is that Apple has decided that if you put your Phone Favorites on the widgets panel it does not require a passcode for the sake of dialing convenience and that Apple is saying that if you are concerned about an accidental pocket dial the way you prevent that is by either removing Phone Favorites from the widgets panel or disabling widgets panel access when the phone is locked.

    I know what you are trying to do but Apple has decided you can't do that as they have not provided a way for you to select which widgets do/don't require a passcode when accessed on a locked phone. For better or worse, Apple has decided that Phone Favorites is not a passcode protected widget on a locked phone.

    BJ
     
  15. cola79 macrumors regular

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    Where can this be reported?
     
  16. zhenya macrumors 603

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    I disagree. This is a bug. Every other app widget requires authentication before it lets you use it. Why should I be able to call someone without unlocking but not see the weather?
     
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    I'm speculating here as I don't know Apple's true intentions, but:

    I believe Apple views an analog phone call as a non-threatening medium whereas an app can contain sensitive data.

    Incoming phone calls to not require an unlock. Therefore why would an outgoing call require one? If a bad guy got your phone and called one of your favorites, that person could hang up the phone or block the number if it was annoying. The phone does not display the telephone number, just the person's name.

    Allowing someone to tap an app widget also allows that person access into the app itself, so that theoretical bad guy could get at any personal information or configuration within a given app like your home address, your bank, etc. Apple would then need an API, run the risk of infiltration, have to police things, it gets messy because of the millions of apps in the app store.

    I'm not saying I agree with Apple's thought process. I am saying how I can see this as a convenience feature and not a bug. For years someone could pick up your phone, launch the camera, and take nude photos of himself and cause a privacy issue. Apple isn't worried about that, a stray phone call to a favorite is far less of an issue.

    BJ
     
  19. zhenya macrumors 603

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    I see your point, but as a parent I disagree strongly. Having kids able to make phone calls is a big no-no. On the other hand maybe this isn't so crazy as nobody who works for Apple appears to have kids, as illustrated by the inexplicable absence of a kids mode.
     
  20. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    At the same time, phones have been present in households for decades without any particular restrictions (from the phones themselves) who can use them, when, or how.
     
  21. boltjames macrumors 68040

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    LOL, agreed, I'm a father of 4, I feel you on this one.

    That said, if we view Widgets as a convenience, not a necessity, and there is a 100% foolproof way to prevent a bad guy from dialing a Favorite (two foolproof ways, in fact) then Apple has you covered. Not much different than the fact that Apple has a mode without a passcode or Touch ID for those who require zero protection, a bad guy could pick up my Father in-law's iPhone and PayPal himself $10,000 if he wanted.

    Different degrees of privacy and protection, configuration to turn it on/off, precedent already set with the Camera app, precedent already set allowing completely unlocked phones, iOS 10 being in beta for half a year, feels like a feature to me.

    BJ
     
  22. zhenya macrumors 603

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    The chance of a toddler picking up a phone and pressing the right sequence of numbers to actually get anywhere is a heck of a lot lower than them picking up a phone and touching a great big autodial favorite on the main screen of a locked phone.
     
  23. boltjames macrumors 68040

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    True.

    However, for those concerned about accidental access to Phone Favorites on an unlocked iPhone, all one has to do is tweak the Touch ID settings and it can't happen.

    The price one pays for that restriction is a single finger rest on the Home button. From there, right swipe, click, and you're dialing the wife. You're in the doghouse anyway, the more clicks to get that call out the better ;)

    BJ
     
  24. sbailey4 macrumors 68030

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    Not to mention you can 3D press the phone app with 6s and higher and effectively do the same thing. Once you are unlocked there is not really a reason to use the widget in reality.
     
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