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Pinkly Smooth

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Hello all. So I just got some worrying news that smoking around an iMac can damage the iMac. I used to do this alot in my old apartment, but I temporarily moved to a house and I have not smoked around the iMac at all because I cannot smoke indoors. I have been in this house for about a month and I haven't noticed anything wrong with the iMac. Of course, now that I know, I will not smoke anywhere near my iMac, but I had no idea before that, while I was smoking while on the iMac.
Is there a way to check if your iMac is ok and is free from any potential damage? This does worry me deeply. What do I do, apart from not smoking around it again. In what way does it damage the iMac? I was told that there is no way of checking if the iMac is damaged. If the iMac has been damaged, how can you tell, and can it be fixed?
Thank you.
 
Does it work fine?
Yes -> it is not damaged.
No -> what is wrong with it?
 
This may seem unkind but is it possible that someone else in the house objected to your smoking? Maybe they thought you cared a little more about your iMac than them? Most of us here have been around the block a few times and I have to tell you, I’ve never heard of such a thing.
 
The OP does write that he or she did him or herself do that around the iMac - not secondhand smoke. Smoke sits everywhere. Tints everything too.

@Pinkly Smooth
No wonder you're concerned. But, Unless it's smoke coming out the rear I think you're in the clear. Butt, get the iMac opened and rinsed if you have the option to.
 
Those of us who work around electronic equipment or computers know that smoking is never allowed. The reason is that smoking will leave tar and film on and in equipment which can eventually damage it. An iMac draws cool air in from the vents at the bottom beneath the screen and exhausts warm air out the top. (Depends on the model.) What do you think happens to the exhaled smoke as it gets drawn in to the iMac and exhausted out the top.....
 
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Ok, well I hope its ok in the end. I am not making this up nor is this about the person objecting to my smoking or caring less about them and more about the iMac. All I know is I will never smoke around the iMac again. I intend on taking it to the shop I bought the iMac from for them to take a look at it.
 
Technically it would be second hand since the iMac isn’t puffing away. The other person in the room is. But your point is well taken. Smoking is bad and you should stop it. The same gunk that’s in your lungs will grime up the screen and exterior of your computer. But I wouldn’t expect any damage to the internal components of the machine.
 
Technically it would be second hand since the iMac isn’t puffing away. The other person in the room is. But your point is well taken. Smoking is bad and you should stop it. The same gunk that’s in your lungs will grime up the screen and exterior of your computer. But I wouldn’t expect any damage to the internal components of the machine.
Yeah, you're right about that. Smoking is bad. I intend on stopping it.
 
Same here. Exactly what is second hand smoke supposed to do to an iMac that it wouldn’t do to a MBP or even a PC?

Desktops consume more power than laptops, which means more heat, which means more airflow, which means more susceptibility to airborne contaminants.

The other issue is unlike PC desktops even many PC all-in-ones, it is difficult to take an iMac apart for cleaning due to Apple's use of adhesive sealing. You run a real risk of breaking the screen or internal components on Retina iMacs.

HP:
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Here’s the thing. If you work in the electronics/computer fields you definitely want to follow best practices. And, has been mentioned here, not smoking is a best practice. But as far as general consumer use goes how many cigs a day would it take to cause an iMac to fail before its 6 to 7 year life span is up. I’m not trying to be flip, just playing devil’s advocate. How much of a concern is this to the average user?
 
Here’s the thing. If you work in the electronics/computer fields you definitely want to follow best practices. And, has been mentioned here, not smoking is a best practice. But as far as general consumer use goes how many cigs a day would it take to cause an iMac to fail before its 6 to 7 year life span is up. I’m not trying to be flip, just playing devil’s advocate. How much of a concern is this to the average user?
I'd like to know too. I also used to vape (electronic cigarette) in the bedroom my iMac was in. I've given that up though. If the iMac has been damaged, is there really no way for it be fixed? (Because it is difficult to clean an iMac) And how can you tell if it has been damaged.
 
Simple. If you can’t tell if it’s damaged then it isn’t damaged. These things are very well made and if something was wrong with it you would know very quickly. Save your money. Don’t take it to shop unless you know there’s definitely something wrong with it. Take deep breaths, chew some nicotine gum, say a mantra or two. It will be fine. As my father used to say: Don’t go looking for trouble. It will find you soon enough on its own. And good luck with quitting smoking. It’s a bitch. I know.
 
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Desktops consume more power than laptops, which means more heat, which means more airflow, which means more susceptibility to airborne contaminants.

The other issue is unlike PC desktops even many PC all-in-ones, it is difficult to take an iMac apart for cleaning due to Apple's use of adhesive sealing. You run a real risk of breaking the screen or internal components on Retina iMacs.

HP:

I started cleaning electronics gear in the early '70s, before the age of the personal computer - back when broadcast and recording studios were allowed to be smoke-filled rooms. Smoke byproducts are sticky stuff that require solvents to dislodge. If I had a piece of gear on the repair bench (or in the case of tape recorders, working in-studio to perform alignment and tune-up), all the outer surfaces got a through wash-down - spray cleaner or isopropyl alcohol, depending on outer finish of the item. The grunge that came off... totally disgusting. Dust/ash that accumulated inside the gear would be blown away with compressed air or vacuumed out. However, no matter how easy it might have been to access the interior, it was not practical to clean the accumulated tars (and tar-cemented dust) from the circuit boards.

Fast forward to the days when nearly every PC in those facilities was a tower and many of those towers were so big they were positioned under-desk. Those boxes filled with dust - carpet lint and paper lint, dirt tracked in off the street, etc., all sucked in by the whopping big fans demanded by 400-watt (and larger) power supplies. People were smoking less on the job, so smoke by-products weren't as big an issue. However, the dust bunnies came out in clumps.

Today's PCs (including iMacs) consume far less power, so cooling fans are circulating less air through the cases. The aluminum outer cases of laptops and all-in-ones are used as heat sinks, reducing the need for interior air circulation. Most machines are now on the desktop, where they suck up far less dust. Altogether, today's electronics (including those hermetically-sealed iMacs) tend to be far cleaner inside than those towers of bygone days. Sure, if a fan-cooled machine is used in a dusty environment you still may want to open it up for cleaning, and yes, nobody would want to open an iMac solely to exorcise some dust.

But regardless of era, cleaning dust out of the box is one thing. Sticky smoke byproducts are going to remain on the circuit boards and other internals. The only proper solution is not a cleaning solution, it's to not smoke.
 
Here’s the thing. If you work in the electronics/computer fields you definitely want to follow best practices. And, has been mentioned here, not smoking is a best practice. But as far as general consumer use goes how many cigs a day would it take to cause an iMac to fail before its 6 to 7 year life span is up. I’m not trying to be flip, just playing devil’s advocate. How much of a concern is this to the average user?
Zero.

Computers are designed to function in a wide variety of environments.

As for "following best practices" that's pretty relative and a far more recent development. The policy helps enforce the control freak mentality of a lot of today's IT professionals.

People have been smoking around electronics and computers for a very long time, literally decades. Relatively recent changes to workplace health policies have made some people forget history.

Go look at old photographs of computer labs, NASA launch control centers, NASA mission control centers, airplane flight decks, etc. There were tons of (mostly) men smoking cigarettes, ashtrays everywhere. Even Hollywood does a decent job capturing this in movies set in the past.

Hell, people used to smoke in hospitals. Russian cosmonauts smoked on the Mir space station. Naval sailors have been smoking on board warships, submarines, etc. for decades.

Don't worry, smoke isn't going to destroy your average consumer electronics device, including your automobile which now has more computing power and more integrated circuits than a $1000 PC from the late Nineties. Somewhere on this planet where workplace health policies aren't as stringent as many Western industrialized nations, there are rooms full of computer equipment and a bunch of smokers.

You can't smoke in computer labs, server rooms, etc. today because of workplace health regulations that gained a foothold starting in the Nineties. Those laws are there to protect human beings and have nothing to do with safeguarding electronics.

The no-smoking policy actually originated from the F&B industry. Bartenders and waitstaff did not want to spend their entire shifts inhaling second-hand smoke from restaurant patrons. The people most opposed to the proposal weren't the patrons themselves but in fact were the restaurant management/owners who were terrified that a no-smoking policy would kill off business. In fact, the opposite became true.

Over years, the no-smoking policy spread elsewhere but in no way was the IT industry instrumental in lobbying for this. It was driven by the hospitality and service industries where workers did not have the option to leave a smoke-filled workplace for one that was smoke-free.

Smoking is an unhealthy habit for human bodies but that's a separate discussion to be held elsewhere.
 
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