About the whole iPhone vs Android thing....

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by smoledman, Feb 25, 2016.

  1. smoledman macrumors 68000

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    True or False?

    * defending Apple does not make one an Apple fanboy
    * making positive statements about Android-related tech does not make one a Google fanboy
    * using facts(financial statements, media articles citing sales figures) is not fanboy-behavior
    * owning an Apple product does not make you a worshiper of Steve Jobs
    * using shades of grey instead of glib black/white statements does enrage fanboys who prefer the dichotomy
    * wishing for Apple's competitors to "up their game" is a good thing.
    * Apple having a monopoly on good products is not great for the consumer.

    I personally think that all of these things go on the various tech forums. I've encountered bitter anger at simply stating facts.

    BTW - Apple is NOT perfect. They never were, perfection is unattainable. They simply make better products as the money-spending public sees it as evidence by sales. I have issues with iOS, Apple TV and other Apple-related things. But I bet I have had even more with Windows/Android over the years.

    My hero in tech is Steve Wozniack. First he was a brilliant engineer. Second, he is a lover of all tech and criticizes Apple when they deserve it. He wants all the best tech no matter who it comes from which I consider a great view on the world.
     
  2. pat500000 Suspended

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    1) defending Apple does not make one an apple fanboy is TRUE. It doesn't, but they should have valid reasons to defend it...and not because they're the cool and the name is popularized.

    2) True...same response with 1)
    3)true
    4)true
    5)don't know
    6)true
    8)true.
     
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    After graduating college, I promised myself that I'd never answer anymore true or false quizzes... :D
     
  4. Tech198, Feb 25, 2016
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    multiple choice... i like multiple choice :D

    (1. depends what it is... Makes users a fanboy, but only IF uses defend Apple just for the sake of defending.. That's a tough one. Because how do u know.
    (2 see #1 as its the same.. just replace "Apple" with "Google"
    (3 true,,, not a fanboi, but also not learning either.... anyone can read and a website, but understanding it makes it all the more reason (i think we can be all guilty of that one)....
    (4 true...u just enjoy using Apple products..... I wouldn't call anyone out one-sided just because, so don't believe everything u see or read, or hear. However, the veteran Apple users will make their face turn blue before they give in.
    (5 true... i hate the color, but i'm neutral... i see both sides, so anyone who can't clearly see probably are some sort of fanboi...... but see #1 just to be sure :D
    (6 'up the game' is always good. Particularly if their is positives involved.
    (7 gonna have to stay in the middle for this one.... some are good, some are bad.... as always, it's u'r personal choice....


    How'd i do .?

    I skipped college, so i'm history already.
     
  5. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 601

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    I think people need to stop worrying what labels tech nerds give them on forums lol.

    If you defend your chosen phone/feature/OS and somebody who doesn't know you gives you a label purely based on assumption, they are an insignificant idiot who really shouldn't ruin your day. You don't have to justify your choice in all honesty. At the end of the day beyond the boundaries of a tech forum nobody cares what phone you use or your reasons for buying it. All it boils down to is points scoring on the Internet and I still don't understand why people get upset when not everybody shares their views and tastes.

    Just enjoy the phone you like. :)
     
  6. MRU, Feb 26, 2016
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    1. Yes & No. For the most part YES, but ... there are those that are overzealous in defence regardless of whether they are factually wrong.

    2. Yes & No. For the most part YES, but ... there are those that are overzealous and will use every post to throw in a dig towards Apple - even if Apple are irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

    3. Yes & No. For the most part YES, but ... there there are those that will go to extremes to post statistics (which can always be twisted & shaped into any position to suit an argument) or 'facts' that are verging more on subjective opinion than fact - or lack context that shape the details behind them.

    4. Yes & No. For the most part YES, but ... there there are those that will hold Steve Jobs up as some buddha like 'guru' when in actual fact he was just a very intelligent & clever man, but just as flawed a man as anyone else.

    5. Yes .... Sitting on the fence and seeing the world as it really is with massive shades of grey and not black & white - will invariably get you pointed as a 'fanboy' of whatever side at some point by those that oppose your rational argument.

    6. Yes... Technology moves on, and as it does it improves the end user experience for us all.

    7. Don't agree with this statement to say yay or nay, simply because Apple do not have a monopoly on good products as it stands regardless.
     
  7. JaySoul macrumors 68020

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    Looking at your profile pic - mate, have you seen the Europa League draw??
     
  8. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 601

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    Man Utd yeah, should be good as both teams are trying to prove themselves under managers that are being heavily scrutinised.
     
  9. 556fmjoe macrumors 65816

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    Tech tribalism is stupid.

    I replaced my Galaxy S3 with an iPhone 5S and can safely say I dislike both operating systems equally.
     
  10. nj-morris macrumors 68000

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    If I could, I'd ban fanboyism. They should just respect each other's opinions.

    I gave an explanation on another thread about the whole situation. I'll post it here in a quote:

     
  11. smoledman thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Getting back to the discussion - I keep asking Windows fanboys why they buy Windows tablets. It's well known there are hardly any good apps on them. Getting even more to the point of how I use my iPad. I have like 40+ apps installed. Most of which are not in the Windows Store. Some of them are but are crap compared to iPad versions. Why should I consider a Windows tablet when:

    * the app experience is far inferior in terms of selection and quality
    * the live tiles are mostly not live and do not really add to the UX
    * there is no 8" Windows tablet that is as good as the iPad Mini 4
     
  12. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 601

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    Windows? That was the discussion? :p
     
  13. SteveJUAE macrumors 68000

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    It's simple the small windows tablets are a toy PC/laptop with far more potential than a toy consumption device running a Phone OS, apps are a bit mute when you can run a full OS software

    No one will deny that within it's limitations an Ipad does what it does probably the best but don't be confused with a device that is limited by it's OS to one that is only limited by hardware/processing, when compared to a full laptop OSX or Windows.

    These devices may look similar and overlap each other in many aspects but there approach to progression is entirely different.

    If an Ipad for fills your needs that's all that is important
     
  14. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    Back when they had the RT versions, I totally agree. Metro sucks. But now on Windows 10, I'll bet most Windows tablet users stay on the desktop.
     
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    Yea people buy windows tablets to run full windows programs imo.

    8" Yea I could see that being a rough experience. If you don't need full windows you probably shouldn't buy a Windows tablet
     
  16. Vegastouch macrumors 603

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    I dont care about any of this stuff. Just use what you like and dont worry about what others think. I dont use an iPhone because they just still dont do enough of what i can on Android and its that simple.
     
  17. SteveJUAE macrumors 68000

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    There's certainly a good element of truth in that :)

    For those that want to run MS Office or older less demanding games and software or even Android Apps via an emulator there's plenty of fun to be had.

    Any 8" tablet is a bit rough and with Windows a 10" is preferable IMO with several running for 10-15 hrs having better batteries

    The Ipad is a great consumption device so to are Android Tablets, Win 10 little tablets have a stronger appeal in other areas outside of apps with the bonus of greater connectivity and interface.
     
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    Fanboy or not, I just want something that JUST WORK and Windows OS has given too many headaches.
     
  19. SteveJUAE macrumors 68000

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    Good for you but many will disagree but that simple does not mater for you :)
     
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    I was given a hand me down iPad 2 recently. First time I ever owned an iPad. It is like 4-5 years old and the battery still holds up to 10 hours of video playback but the standby is getting worse on it. Kudos to Apple at making a durable device with a battery that hasn't degraded as badly as many 18 months old smartphones that lose 20-30% like my Xiaomi.

    Personally, I will stop caring to take sides and just enjoy them all. I still prefer Android over iOS. But recently moving to Baguio where the climate is great for me, I expect many blackouts (aka brownouts here). No electricity in our home can last days and days.

    So I say screw taking sides and buy as many gadgets and power banks as you can to keep you entertained! They generally do the same things anyway. I was thinking of selling the iPad 2 but decided to keep it because who knows when another blackout hits here in Baguio.
     
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    I myself still have an iPad 2. And it's battery it still excellent. I blame upgrading iOS over the years for the slight decline in battery life.
     
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    Steve Wozniak seems like a great guy, btw. A true tech enthusiast. I was watching a G4 Icons episode of the Apple II and I love hearing his enthusiasm with tech. Actually, I've been looping alot of G4 Icons and Game of Thrones. Watching old video game stories like the video game crash of 1983, Atari, Donkey Kong, Dreamcast, Game Boy, etc makes me appreciate the current technology we have now which can do far more even though the mobile market has become way too saturated just like what happened in video games during the early 1980's. Back in 2013, I was guilty of trying to take sides. Now I realize we just limit ourselves from the cool technology being offered by many brands. Enjoy what you like and who cares about taking sides?
     
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    I'm kinda equal opportunity I don't love Android, iOS, Windows, OS X, or the various BSD's and won't defend any unless the conversation is getting stupid but each have a place.
     
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    they surely have built some legend with the huge amount of money they have spent on marketing.
     
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    That reflects well in their customer service also.
     

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