If I want/need to downgrade so I can jailbreak will i be able to keep the newly released apps (like mail/notes) i also will need ical, id rather not have to replace all these with 3rd party apps. Im still considering a nano (too bad you cant still donate 5% for the red, i would get a red ipod touch) and this really cool gelaskin for it, but the calender/notes/mail are all really useful and help justify getting one for more than just cool factor.