Absolutely hating the iPhone 5, why a 5S? Want Galaxy S4

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by BlueMoonForever, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. BlueMoonForever macrumors 6502

    Sep 2, 2012
    Now I've had my iPhone 5 for a few months now and am hating it more and more by the day. Actually miss the 4S build quality and form factor. Yeah you can all laugh at me for that, I don't care. Maybe I'm hating my iPhone 5 because I'm seeing more and more people with Samsung Galaxy phones and all they can do.

    The iPhone build quality is absolutely horrible too. Why are so many people having problems with the sleep wake button? Mine is extremely loose and rattles like crazy when you barely move the phone.

    I will admit, while boring and dull, I like iOS and like how it just works, and works very well with accessories. I feel like I never gave Android a fair chance.

    So yea, anyone else really hating their iPhone 5 now? I hate hate hate the horrible 4" screen. Its awkward and I'd take 3.5" in a second. I'm very disappointed Johhny Ive thought this design up.
  2. matttye macrumors 601

    Mar 25, 2009
    Lincoln, England
    Love mine! Relatively few issues here, and any that I have had tend to be software related.
  3. iPhysicist macrumors 65816


    Nov 9, 2009
    No laugh on your side but a tip. The 4S is still available. So go for it. Nobody forces you to upgrade every year.
  4. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    Time for you to move on then instead of complaining and get something that you like.
  5. BlueMoonForever thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 2, 2012
    Your absolutely right. But it would be foolish to even pick up a Note 2 when the S4 is due out in 2 months.
  6. DodgeV83 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 8, 2012
    That's funny, because the Android people at work are always jealous of what my iPhone 5 can do :p
  7. HishamAkhtar macrumors 6502a

    Oct 22, 2011
    I have yet to own an iPhone that didn't have problems with it's buttons.

    3G = silent button fell off
    4 = sleep/wake button got pushed into the phone
    5 = sleep/wake button works about once in 5 tries.
  8. BlueMoonForever thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 2, 2012
    Its not a bad phone. It allows Apple to stay in the game throughout 2013, but I just find it awkward to hold. I loved how solid the 4S felt and call me nuts but I actually liked that it was heavier. Felt really good in the hand. It felt perfect. Of course, I'm not an idiot and can't go back to the 4S because I sold mine and Apple doesn't make 32GB anymore in the 4S.

    If this is the design Apple wants to continue with then I feel sorry for them. Now there are talks about an iPhone 5S which will of course be just like the 4S. Same form factor and new internal specs.

    The iPhone 5S is already dated before its even out.
  9. matttye macrumors 601

    Mar 25, 2009
    Lincoln, England
    Nobody knows it's due out in two months. Rumours seem to suggest April/May.
  10. maxosx macrumors 68020

    Dec 13, 2012
    Southern California
    The iPhone 5 is a fine phone for what it is.

    No company is capable of perfection. Apple builds to _their_ preferences then has been highly successful persuading the public it's in their best interest.

    I'm of the mind that having witnessed the success Samsung has enjoyed with the Galaxy S series, Apple may make the recent rumor of a larger screen come true this year.

    As far as iOS, it too is just fine.

    Lets not forget that Android & iOS are created by two very different companies for two different target markets. One is loosely based on freedom & openness. The other on a closed ecosystem designed to sell hardware & apps. Reminding us that variety is to be celebrated, and choices equal customer satisfaction.
  11. Radiating macrumors 65816

    Dec 29, 2011
    You: I hate my iPhone 5 because I received one with a defective sleep/wake button and refuse to have it replaced under warranty because I'm crazy. I will also confuse build quality and quality control and claim that the product with the best build quality in the industry has the worst. I also think that an inferior phone is somehow better because people own it...

    Me: Right.

    Here's another convo you might be interested in, this one based on a real conversation:

    Consumer #1: Yeah as a long time iPhone owner I ditched it for the Galaxy S3 this time around, they say it's much better.

    Consumer #2: I've heard the same thing.

    Consumer #1: Yeah it's great!

    Skeptic: How is it much better?

    Consumer #1: Because the screen is better.

    Skeptic: No it's not. The S3 screen is a very cheap unit. If you rock the display left to right for example on the S3 you'll see that the color violently changes to weird tones from just a few degrees away from the viewing angle. On top of that if you look at the colors they're completely off and messed up on the S3.

    Consumer #1: What do you mean the colors are messed up?

    Skeptic: Let me show you I'll pull up the same photo. *pulls up photo* it looks like you're looking through a cheap instagram filter at everything.

    Consumer #1: Wow I've never noticed that before. But the S3 has more pixels.

    Skeptic: No really. It has a higher resolution but it has fewer pixel sites. The screen on the iPhone 5 is made up of an even amount of red green and blue pixels. On the S3 there are half the red and blue pixels. Which means that overall there are about 30% fewer pixel sites on the S3, at a higher resolution and greater DPI. This results in a serious cross hatching pattern that makes the screen look noticeably grainy, which is the problem that more resolution is supposed to fix and is responsible for a very poor color gamut that makes everything look like it's through a filter. On top of that if you look at the screen itself next to mine you'll see that it's less than half the brightness.

    Consumer #2: But the S3 is faster with a better processor.

    Skeptic: No, not really. The international version of the S3 has the quad core Exynos 1.4 gig processor, the US version has a dual core 1.5 gig processor. The iPhone 5 processors is the A6 1.02 gig processor that can selectively ramp it's clock speed up to 1.3 gigs and possibly beyond.

    Consumer #2: Right so 1.5 is more than 1.3.

    Skeptic: No it actually ends up being slower. You can't really compare two different processors with two different architectures, it's a very bad comparison. In the end on benchmarks the iPhone 5 processor performs nearly identically to the Galaxy S3 international quad core version, and is about 15% faster than the US dual core LTE galaxy S3. With graphics processor you can compare them more directly and the iPhone 5 has about 28 gigaflops of processing power with it's PowerVR graphics chip while the Galaxy S3 only has 7 gigaflops of graphics processing power, which is 4 times less. So that's 15% more CPU and 4 times more GPU.

    Consumer #1: Oh well I thought it was faster, I didn't know it has that much slower. I like the voice recognition on the S3 compared to my old iPhone 4 though. It's more accurate.

    Skeptic: Voice recognition is all based on the Hidden Markov Model algorithm and is generally around 90% accurate with a large word bank and 99% accurate with a small word bank. So any difference you see doesn't have anything to do with the processing and is likely a coincidence but Apple also added a microphone on the back of the iPhone 5 which picks up surrounding audio and will cancel it out which means it sends a much cleaner signal for voice recognition and you can use it in loud places. The iPhone 5 is the only phone which has this features because Apple has the patent on it, which also means it has the best voice recognition accuracy. The iPhone 5 also improved it's response quality to be on par with Jelly Bean, which was the number one downside to the old 4S. So voice recognition should be better on the iPhone 5.

    Consumer #1: That's pretty Interesting, I didn't know voice recognition worked on a common forumula, maybe it was a coincidence or I just started talking to my phone clearly. I like form of the S3 though.

    Skeptic: The S3 is built like a children's toy. Apple is really the only company that makes high quality cell phones right now. Other manufacturers cut costs left and right making their devices out of the most inexpensive plastic and then advertising to no end when they put a 5 cent piece of kevlar fabric on the back like it's their greatest achievement. Cell phone manufactures besides Apple make cheap low quality devices. Apple's iPhone 5 is said to be the most difficult to manufacture consumer device ever made by Foxconn. They actually are the first manufacturer to use crystalline diamond milled aluminum on a consumer device which cuts and polishes the edge at the same time. They also use lasers to cut out all the ports so there are no finishing marks.

    Consumer #1: Oh wow, I never though about the quality before. I just kind of looked at the color and that was it. What I meant though is I like that it has a bigger screen and that's what I really noticed about it. I ignored the rest. But I did like the neat features like locking the phone or silencing it when you lay it on the screen, and the weather widgets on the home screen.

    Skeptic: My iPhone 5 does each of those things you describe. You can instal them through the Cyndia store along with over 90% of Android's unique features. It takes 5 minutes to set up. I can't really help you with the screen size though, so you would have said that the iPhone 5 is much better if it had a bigger screen though right?

    Consumer #1: Yep

    Consumer #2: Pretty much

    In case you were wondering the only features that the S3 has over the iPhone 5 a are a few proprietary samsung software features, NFC, a removable battery and removable storage. The removable storage is over 15 times slower than internal storage and takes ages to load anything, and has a lower internal storage, and the removable battery can be added with a slim battery case for the iPhone 5, which takes up about the same amount of room in your pocket as an extra battery and is easier to use. NFC isn't that useful.
  12. R.Stoychev macrumors 6502a


    Dec 23, 2012
    Sooo the galaxy is made by plastic and you're saying the Iphone 5 build quality is poor :rolleyes:
  13. BlueMoonForever thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 2, 2012
    Yeah if you think I'm reading all that, well yeah...
  14. Bahroo macrumors 68000

    Jul 21, 2012
    Im the complete opposite, i love my iphone 5 its the best phone i ever got lmao
  15. surjavarman macrumors 6502a

    Nov 24, 2007
    Dude wtf man. This is too long to read
  16. BlueMoonForever thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 2, 2012
    I laugh when people write that much. Like anyone is going to take the time to read it hahaha. NOT ME!!!
  17. Adutrumque macrumors 65816


    Mar 8, 2012
  18. Appl3FTW macrumors 603


    Nov 15, 2012
    HATE HATE HATE... Who died and forced u to buy the iphone anyways?
  19. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    Sounds like you don't want to read it:D
  20. BlueMoonForever thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 2, 2012
  21. Appl3FTW macrumors 603


    Nov 15, 2012
  22. aztooh macrumors 6502a

    Jul 5, 2011
    I'm slightly confused.

    First of all, I, too, am probably going to go to the S4. But that's not a given, going to wait to see what exactly it has going on. But I do enjoy my 5 infinitely more than the 4S. I like the size and reduced weight. That's just personal preference though.

    What I'm confused about is; you say you don't like the size/weight of the 5, and would rather have the heavy, smaller 3.5" screen of the 4/4S. And at the same time, say you want the S4...which is going to be much larger than the 5 and also a lighter phone than the 4/4S because of build materials. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me...
  23. Futhark macrumors 65816


    Jun 12, 2011
    Northern Ireland
    Wow you must be rough with your devices!
  24. kadillac macrumors member

    Dec 7, 2012
    Here's a quick S4 recap stat-run down:
    21.7" screen
    24-core processor
    A bunch of random useless features that have no actual application for every day use that Samsung will use to say that "Apple doesn't have these things"
    Cheap plastic body
    Terrible battery life
    Glitchy, laggy TouchWiz
    Android 4.1 Jelly Bean

    The Fandroids will buy it, say that it makes them "smarter than iOS fans", they're "power users", Samsung will make some more commercials about how it is better than the iPhone, and they will continue to bring up the misnomer that Apple is losing it and Samsung, with all its innovation, is the wave of the future. Meanwhile Samsung continues to blatantly copy and rip the iPhone while they try to get a peek at iOS source code in an attempt to rip off Apple.
    The 5 is great.

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