Activation lock: ON, new Iphone 6s

[eddimax]

Hi guys



i am looking to buy a new iPhone 6s from some guy who have new and UNOPENED box of this device. When i enter IMEI nubmer here

https://checkcoverage.apple.com/us/en/

it tells me that this device is not yet activated and that is fine, because the box is totally new and unopened.

BUT, when i put IMEI number on activation lock check it tells me that device is LOCKED??

https://www.icloud.com/activationlock/

How can it be locked if its not even activated? Is this device stolen so apple locked it or what? Or maybe is locked on specific network? I dont want to buy anything wrong so thats why i want to check everything before i buy.


Thanx a lot for help.

 

[Cergman]

Hi guys



i am looking to buy a new iPhone 6s from some guy who have new and UNOPENED box of this device. When i enter IMEI nubmer here

https://checkcoverage.apple.com/us/en/

it tells me that this device is not yet activated and that is fine, because the box is totally new and unopened.

BUT, when i put IMEI number on activation lock check it tells me that device is LOCKED??

https://www.icloud.com/activationlock/

How can it be locked if its not even activated? Is this device stolen so apple locked it or what? Or maybe is locked on specific network? I dont want to buy anything wrong so thats why i want to check everything before i buy.


Thanx a lot for help.

Seems fishy. Just be aware that if the activation lock is on (second screenshot), you WILL NOT be able to use the phone at all. I would avoid that listing.

 

[HEK]

Buy it from Apple and save yourself a lot of greef. If this a new inboxed phone (not) then why is this person selling it for under new price? If it sounds to good to be true, well let buyer be ware. You know how easy it is to shrink wrap a box.
Buy from Apple, get full warranty, get 14 day return policy, and never have a worry you are getting counterfeit, stolen, or phone someone will stop payments on two months later and turns into a brick for you. If you can't afford new wait and save.

 

[CNeufeld]

One word for you...

"NEXT!"

As in, move on to the next ad. You can tell the buyer what you found, but why even consider risking your cash when there's other phones on the market.

For giggles, you could try calling Apple support, and ask them how it can get like that. But I suspect they'll tell you the same thing. High risk transaction. They put the activation lock feature on for a reason.

C

 

[eddimax]

Buy it from Apple and save yourself a lot of greef. If this a new inboxed phone (not) then why is this person selling it for under new price? If it sounds to good to be true, well let buyer be ware. You know how easy it is to shrink wrap a box.
Buy from Apple, get full warranty, get 14 day return policy, and never have a worry you are getting counterfeit, stolen, or phone someone will stop payments on two months later and turns into a brick for you. If you can't afford new wait and save.

Hm, i am not in the USA i am in Europe. Here in many countries Apple products are cca 40% more expensive then in USA. So its not "suprise" here that someone go to the USA or some other european country where taxes is not that big and is selling iPhones 20-40% cheaper then in the official Apple stores. Also, so many people get iPhones 6s for free from their operator if they buy something there or sing some contract, but they dont want it, so you can buy from them too so many cheaper then in the store. So its not suprise that someone have new and unoppened box of Iphone 6s and want to sell it because he dont need it.

But, on the other hand, there are also people who got this products on the black market, they stoled it or something. So, you have to be careful, and i am careful and thats why i am asking you guys what does it mean when the phone is locked. I dont want to buy iPhone in the local Apple store because its expensive, but thats not the topic here anyway.

 

[eddimax]

One word for you...

"NEXT!"

As in, move on to the next ad. You can tell the buyer what you found, but why even consider risking your cash when there's other phones on the market.

For giggles, you could try calling Apple support, and ask them how it can get like that. But I suspect they'll tell you the same thing. High risk transaction. They put the activation lock feature on for a reason.

C

Yes, i already did it. I told him that there is something wrong with his iPhone because it tells me that is locked, he was really unpleasant and told me that its everything fine with it, he's got all papers (bill and warranty) and i can check it by myself in his house. Ofcourse i sad "goodbye", but i just want to be sure am i wrong, maybe thats something normal, maybe the phone is locked on some network operator so thats why it says "Activation lock: ON"

He told me that iPhone is bought in another neighbor country so in fact i cant check it is that bill and warranty right or wrong. Basicaly, he could make bil and warranty on his own computer, i cant check it because that shop is not in my country (right Apple warranty works in all EU countries no matter where did you buy it, but i have to be sure that phone is not stolen).

 

[CNeufeld]

What it means is that if you buy the phone, you won't be able to use it. If that sounds like a good deal to you, knock yourself out.

Have you asked the seller why the phone has an activation lock on it?

C

 

[CNeufeld]

Just saw your update...

His reaction tells you all you need to know. Good decision to walk away. Good luck finding a phone soon!

C

 

[HEK]

Hm, i am not in the USA i am in Europe. Here in many countries Apple products are cca 40% more expensive then in USA. So its not "suprise" here that someone go to the USA or some other european country where taxes is not that big and is selling iPhones 20-40% cheaper then in the official Apple stores. Also, so many people get iPhones 6s for free from their operator if they buy something there or sing some contract, but they dont want it, so you can buy from them too so many cheaper then in the store. So its not suprise that someone have new and unoppened box of Iphone 6s and want to sell it because he dont need it.

But, on the other hand, there are also people who got this products on the black market, they stoled it or something. So, you have to be careful, and i am careful and thats why i am asking you guys what does it mean when the phone is locked. I dont want to buy iPhone in the local Apple store because its expensive, but thats not the topic here anyway.

If someone gets a phone cheap or free by signing a contract and changes their mind and doesn't want it. What makes you think they will keep making payments on that contract. Because when they stop making payments that carrier will blackball that IMEI Number and that phone will become an expensive desk weight. But it's your money and your risk, I wish you luck.

By the way I have a really nice bridge to sell, inexpensive and you can charge people a toll to cross it. The bridge connect upper and lower penisulla of Michigan. It's in good shape, just got painted recently. You can have it for a real low price, just let me know. But hurry, I am taking bids so it won't last long.

 

[eddimax]

Because when they stop making payments that carrier will blackball that IMEI Number and that phone will become an expensive desk weight.

Hm no, i dont know how is in the USA but over here carrier apsolutely NEVER block the IMEI of mobile phone if you stop paying your bills. The carrier will take his money on the other way (and belive me there are so many better ways), but never ever will block IMEI of your phone. Thats why many people (who dont want iPhone) are selling them and in that case is 100% safe to buy from them. Even if they stop paying the bills - the phone is your, but they will get in trouble on some other way.

 

[Ulenspiegel]

@eddimax: You made the right decision. An unopend box means nothing. A phone can be locked w/o opening the box or can be easily repackaged.

 

[Applejuiced]

Someone I know bought an "unopened" box iPhone. Guess what was inside the sealed box? Nothing.
The seller wouldn't let him open the box and inspect it cause he said then the phone will be considered used. It was a CL transaction. Took the money and drove off fast and by the time the buyer opened the box it was too late.
Anyone can plastic shrink wrap a box.
Obviously the seller above is pulling a scam. Instead of thinking about it and asking how or why you should be saying hell no, see ya later. Let someone else be the sucker instead of you.

 

[DeltaMac]

Good thing you know what to check before you buy!

I'm sure the seller will find some other "lucky" customer.

 

[eddimax]

Someone I know bought an "unopened" box iPhone. Guess what was inside the sealed box? Nothing.

LOOOL

Good thing you know what to check before you buy!

I'm sure the seller will find some other "lucky" customer.

He said something like "ok, if you dont want it tomorrow morning will come some other guy (to buy the phone) who will not act like a smartass to stuff he doesnt know at all"

Yes, he said that i dont know what i am talking about, that activation check works just for american devices .. WTF

Which is ofcourse not true...

Here is the picture of unopened european iPhone (You can see "Approved in all EU countries")

and you can see the IMEI is 353317072541171, if you check that number on apple pages you will get this:

Activation lock: OFF

 

[HEK]

Someone I know bought an "unopened" box iPhone. Guess what was inside the sealed box? Nothing.
The seller wouldn't let him open the box and inspect it cause he said then the phone will be considered used. It was a CL transaction. Took the money and drove off fast and by the time the buyer opened the box it was too late.
Anyone can plastic shrink wrap a box.
Obviously the seller above is pulling a scam. Instead of thinking about it and asking how or why you should be saying hell no, see ya later. Let someone else be the sucker instead of you.

Shame the friend you know didn't pay him with fake money. Course that could get them in trouble with ATF. Interesting case though, counterfeit money for empty box.

 

[DeltaMac]

You're good!

Seems like the seller would be correct if Apple doesn't allow access to iCloud in your country.
Not that you would want to contact the seller again, but a good question to ask, "Why does one unactivated (new) iPhone show as locked in iCloud, and another, unactivated (new) iPhone shows as not locked?