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So with the new iPhone 14’s with no physical sim slot and only one active esim at a time posses a problem if you want dual esim functionality.

How does everyone feel about this? Or did Apple finally allow 2 x active dual esim functionality with iOS 16?
 
john991 said:
So with the new iPhone 14’s with no physical sim slot and only one active esim at a time posses a problem if you want dual esim functionality.

How does everyone feel about this? Or did Apple finally allow 2 x active dual esim functionality with iOS 16?
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Dual eSIM has been working for me on 15
 
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john991 said:
So with the new iPhone 14’s with no physical sim slot and only one active esim at a time posses a problem if you want dual esim functionality.

How does everyone feel about this? Or did Apple finally allow 2 x active dual esim functionality with iOS 16?
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Currently using dual eSim on a 13PM... AT&T & T-Mo, no issues. Even further, was very very easy and quick on both accounts.
 
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Does Dual eSIM on the 14 allow calls on both lines concurrently without having to have one of the 2 lines use WiFi calling? Or can both lines be on a call using the cellular network? The iphone 13 requires that one of the 2 concurrent calls be on WiFi calling. This means concurrent calls are not possible when away from a WiFi signal. If you're already on a call and a second comes in on the second line, it will go to voicemail.
 
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john991 said:
So with the new iPhone 14’s with no physical sim slot and only one active esim at a time posses a problem if you want dual esim functionality.

How does everyone feel about this? Or did Apple finally allow 2 x active dual esim functionality with iOS 16?
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See the following: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209044

Set up another cellular plan on your iPhone​

All iPhone models that support eSIM can have multiple eSIMs and use Dual SIM with two active SIMs at the same time.

You can use Dual SIM by using a physical SIM and an eSIM. iPhone 13 models and later also support two active eSIMs. iPhone models without a physical SIM tray support two active eSIMs.

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I believe what this means is that older phones that had a pSIM and eSIM support, you could only get Dual Active using the 1 pSIM and 1 eSIM.

With iPhone 13 and newer, you can have Dual Active with eSIMS.
 
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I know the 14 supports Dual SIM. The iphone 13 also supports Dual SIM. But if on 2 calls at the same time, only one uses the cell network on that call. The other line relies on WiFi calling.

Does anyone know if 14 works the same way. Must one of the 2 active calls be using WiFi calling or can both lines use the cell tower? This does make a difference because if one line must use WiFi calling, you cannot have 2 calls at the same time when out in the field.
 
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Yes. Dual esims work. Has been at least since the 13 as I used it for most of the year for work and home lines.

So you have to designate one or the other as the primary or secondary line. But, you can make a call from either line at any given time as long as both are "on" in settings.
 
Steve686 said:
Yes. Dual esims work. Has been at least since the 13 as I used it for most of the year for work and home lines.

So you have to designate one or the other as the primary or secondary line. But, you can make a call from either line at any given time as long as both are "on" in settings.
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Yes but with the iphone 13 if on 2 calls at the same time, one must be using WiFi calling.
Does anyone know if this is true with the 14 or can the 14 use both lines at the same time using the cell tower? This makes a difference if you are away from a WiFi connection.
 
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jay968 said:
I know the 14 supports Dual SIM. The iphone 13 also supports Dual SIM. But if on 2 calls at the same time, only one uses the cell network on that call. The other line relies on WiFi calling.

Does anyone know if 14 works the same way. Must one of the 2 active calls be using WiFi calling or can both lines use the cell tower? This does make a difference because if one line must use WiFi calling, you cannot have 2 calls at the same time when out in the field.
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I was answering OP's question, not yours. But since I didn't initially quote the OP, I can see how you wouldn't know that. The other person you replied to just now probably did the same.
 
jay968 said:
Yeah sorry.
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No problem. It's confusing if you don't quote.

I don't have either the 13 or 14 but I did find this support article: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209044

Make and receive calls​

You can make and receive phone calls with either phone number.

When you're on a call, if the carrier for your other phone number supports Wi-Fi calling, you can answer incoming calls on your other number. When you're on a call using a line that isn't your designated line for cellular data, you need to turn on Allow Cellular Data Switching to receive calls from your other line. If you ignore the call and you have voicemail set up with your carrier, you’ll get a missed-call notification and the call will go to voicemail. Check with your carrier for Wi-Fi calling availability and find out whether additional fees or data usage applies from your data provider.

If you're on a call and your other line shows No Service, either your carrier doesn't support Wi-Fi calling or you don't have Wi-Fi calling turned on.3 It could also mean Allow Cellular Data Switching is not turned on. When you're on a call, an incoming call on your other phone number will go to voicemail if you set up voicemail with your carrier.4 However, you won't get a missed-call notification from your secondary number. Call Waiting works for incoming calls on the same phone number. To avoid missing an important call, you can turn on call forwarding and forward all calls from one number to the other. Check with your carrier for availability and to find out whether additional fees apply.

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It sounds like 14 works the same way as 13 but hopefully someone who actually has the device can confirm this for you.
 
Mity said:
No problem. It's confusing if you don't quote.

I don't have either the 13 or 14 but I did find this support article: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209044

Make and receive calls​

You can make and receive phone calls with either phone number.

When you're on a call, if the carrier for your other phone number supports Wi-Fi calling, you can answer incoming calls on your other number. When you're on a call using a line that isn't your designated line for cellular data, you need to turn on Allow Cellular Data Switching to receive calls from your other line. If you ignore the call and you have voicemail set up with your carrier, you’ll get a missed-call notification and the call will go to voicemail. Check with your carrier for Wi-Fi calling availability and find out whether additional fees or data usage applies from your data provider.

If you're on a call and your other line shows No Service, either your carrier doesn't support Wi-Fi calling or you don't have Wi-Fi calling turned on.3 It could also mean Allow Cellular Data Switching is not turned on. When you're on a call, an incoming call on your other phone number will go to voicemail if you set up voicemail with your carrier.4 However, you won't get a missed-call notification from your secondary number. Call Waiting works for incoming calls on the same phone number. To avoid missing an important call, you can turn on call forwarding and forward all calls from one number to the other. Check with your carrier for availability and to find out whether additional fees apply.

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It sounds like 14 works the same way as 13 but hopefully someone who actually has the device can confirm this for you.
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Thanks. I appreciate your effort but I've seen this. It was written years ago before the iphone 14 was even a thought. I am just wondering whether things have changed in the 14 and whether WiFi might not be needed anymore (probably wishful thinking on my part).
Thanks again.
 
jay968 said:
Thanks. I appreciate your effort but I've seen this. It was written years ago before the iphone 14 was even a thought. I am just wondering whether things have changed in the 14 and whether WiFi might not be needed anymore (probably wishful thinking on my part).
Thanks again.
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If they changed it so that you don't need WiFi, Apple would've updated the support article. The date at the bottom shows the most recent update to the support article was September 07, 2022.
 
Mity said:
If they changed it so that you don't need WiFi, Apple would've updated the article. The date at the bottom shows the most recent update to the support article was September 07, 2022.
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Ahh ok, thanks again. As I said, it was just wishful thinking.
 
I have dual e-SIMs working on my 14 Pro, just like they were on my 13 Pro. I transferred them over this afternoon without a problem.

I always have both working simultaneously, but I very rarely actually use the phone as a phone, so using both numbers for a phone call at the same exact time isn’t an issue for me.
 
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