Activity App

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  1. Henners74 macrumors regular

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    Does anybody know how I can send my Activity App Data to a new iPhone? Don't want to lose all the data that I have got since I got my watch.

    Thanks for any help in advance
     
  2. Julien macrumors G4

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  3. exxxviii macrumors 65816

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    If you restore the new phone from a previous backup (per above), it all transfers over. However, if you must setup the new phone as a new device (like a work phone, for example, or Apple's instruction in order to resolve a problem), then you cannot transfer your activity data.
     
  4. BarracksSi Suspended

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    +100, especially the encrypted part.

    iTunes won't save Health and Activity data in an easy-to-hack format, so you need to tell iTunes to back it up in an encrypted version.

    Apple's directions don't say this loudly enough.
     
  5. Rok73 macrumors 65816

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    I don't get why the health data cannot be put in a separate backup. As has been said you can't reset & setup the iPhone as new if there are any serious issues with it. Annoying.
     
  6. exxxviii macrumors 65816

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    This is where Apple devolved from simple to simpleton. Health and Activity should not even be in a device backup. It should be stored on the web. That way, we have device independence, and we could access our activity and health data from our iPads and desktops.
     
  7. Julien macrumors G4

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    Health data must conform to strict HIPAA standards. Apple is working in the Health monitoring field and MUST be very conservative and be VERY careful. Any breach of health data and Apple would likely face strong FDA regulations and scrutiny. Apple MUST maintain the highest levels of encryption and sandboxing. So putting this SUPER confidential info on the internet is not likely going to happen.
     
  8. exxxviii, Aug 28, 2016
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    If this is the best Apple can do for security, they should get out of the software business. Most of the rest of the world has solved for this. Security has many pillars. One is prevention of data loss. Apple is deficient here. Another is access when and where it is needed. Apple is deficient here too.

    It looks to me like Apple implemented a 90s era Palm Pilot architecture to compensate for their lack of security competence. Maybe this is just the directive of an overly-conservative Enterprise Risk Managemrnt directive. It is borderline-useless, none the less.
     
  9. Julien, Aug 28, 2016
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    No because HIPAA compliance is much different and for more strenuous than ANY other type of personal data. Even one single small breach and Apple's ambitious future health monitoring plans could be DOA. Please read link below to better understand why HIPAA data can't be put on the internet and open to attacks like phishing.

    http://www.onlinetech.com/resources/references/what-is-hipaa-compliance
     
  10. exxxviii, Aug 28, 2016
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    Yes, because others are already doing it and are HIPAA compliant. But, rolling back to the original post... the problem is that Apple bundled activity data into into Health, and that hamstrings all meaningful use of activity data relative to any other activity or fitness device in the market.

    Here is some rational man, rhetorical thinking... Health is a copy of data that largely come from somewhere else. That somewhere else, in most cases, is the Internet. The pipe may be a local app that is connected to Health, but, most likely, the app is getting the data from the Internet. Personal health data are already available on the Internet; they have been for years. Many payers and providers provide health data over the internet through their portals. Your data are already out there; my data are out there. You may not have registered yourself for access, but they are already exposed, waiting for you. The world is already doing this, and in the middle of this future, Apple squatted and deficated Health upon us. And Apple called it a shiny object. But, we all know you cannot polish a turd.

    I spent a fair number of years dealing with HIPAA issues before most people could spell the acronym.

    Many private doctor's offices have their data hosted locally or on a private cloud. And, the office, doctors, and staff can access the systems remotely. If you know anything about IT and have a paranoid bent, this should totally freak you out. But it is where we are and will be for many years to come.
     
  11. Rok73 macrumors 65816

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    I don't care where my health data is stored, either local or online but Apple should really, really divide iOS from the health data because it seriously narrows down troubleshooting possibilities with both of those devices. Saying that, I will immediately give feedback to them via the official channels.
     
  12. exxxviii macrumors 65816

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    At a minimum, Apple should put Health data in iCloud as "Documents & Data" like it offers for iMovie, games, and other data-centric apps. That would solve the backup problem, and device-centric problem, and the security risk of having critical data on the device with limited control if the device falls into nefarious hands.
     
  13. Julien, Aug 29, 2016
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    Probably part of the reason Apple keeps it integrated in a full backup is that in order to access you must do a full restore. This more securely protects your data from nefarious parties since it requires a full restore to access. Also Apple did just buy a HIPAA data specialty compony named Gliimpse. This may offer in the future other method(s) of data access but it will have to be something externally secure.

    https://www.fastcompany.com/3062865...cquires-personal-health-data-startup-gliimpse
     

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