Actual USER Opinions of iWork '08

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Your thoughts of iWork.

  1. I agree iWork is awesome.

    43 vote(s)
    67.2%
  2. iWork is nice but not that great.

    21 vote(s)
    32.8%
  3. iWork isn't that nice at all.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. I hate iWork.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. dpaanlka macrumors 601

    dpaanlka

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    #1
    I feel I just have to say that I'm really loving iWork '08 it feels like the best productivity suite I've ever used. Totally worth it at $79 (which was slightly less easy to say about '06). Numbers really completes the puzzle and new Pages and Keynote features make it an all around exciting productivity suite to use. I don't think I've ever said that about any software suite.

    iWork '08 does everything I want to do, and does it in an excessively stylish, efficient, and easy to use manner. I am extremely satisfied.

    iLife '08 has been nice too (people making too big a deal about iMovie - it's not literally the "clips" view of iMovie HD), but something about iWork really makes me a happy customer.
     
  2. psychofreak Retired

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    #2
    Pages and Keynote are awesome. Numbers seems a bit unrefined.
     
  3. PeggyD macrumors 6502a

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    #3
    I chose the second selection in the poll because, although I think what iWork '08 has is great, as "the successor to AppleWorks" it's incomplete.

    Pages still only mail merges with Address Book. If it, at least, could use Numbers documents for merge, it would be an improvement.

    Pages has a new "page layout" mode which I see as the equivalent of AppleWorks' draw module. But Pages can't import AppleWorks draw documents.

    There is no real database function. A separate flat-file database like the one in AppleWorks would be sufficient for many users. There are a lot of users out there who have run their home or small business using AppleWorks for years. They use the database for a lot more than writing form letters.
     
  4. dpaanlka thread starter macrumors 601

    dpaanlka

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    #4
    Actually, the "Page Layout" mode is akin to what Pages '06 was. "Word Processing" is new. Page Layout refers to the placement of text in boxes, images, and shapes and the manner in which they're "laid" on a page.

    I think its time to lay AppleWorks to rest, though.
     
  5. wako macrumors 65816

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    #5
    I think I still like Microsoft Word =X



    This is probably because I cant find the things Im looking for in Pages... I guess I just need to beat the learning curve before I start liking it...
     
  6. PeggyD macrumors 6502a

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    No, the word processing mode is the same as Pages 1 & 2, with a basic text layer that you can put objects on top of. The page layout mode is a completely blank page. Any Pages 1 or 2 documents you open in Pages 3 are opened as word processing mode.
     
  7. dpaanlka thread starter macrumors 601

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    #7
    And most of the old Pages templates now fall under "Page Layout." Pages was always considered more of a Page Layout app, which was great but made it a little clumsy to use as a word processor. The Word Processing mode and related features are specifically "new" in Pages.
     
  8. iBunny macrumors 65816

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    #8
    iWork 08 is awesome.

    Its like just enough of what you need. And its totally "Mac"

    Its not Microsoft office, nor will ever be office.
     
  9. kiwi-in-uk macrumors 6502a

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    #9
    No ... PeggyD is correct. The WP mode was always there, but was less obvious and was not explicitly separated from page layout.
     
  10. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    #10
    iWork '08 is incomplete but it doesn't need to be AppleWorks to be complete.

    I moved 2 databases to Numbers and they're sufficient like that since the database functionality in ClarisWorks was slim to none anyway. I tried to convert one to a CW spreadsheet and then, open that with Numbers but the spreadsheet in CW is very limited in size.

    I like the idea of being able to use Address Book for mail merge but I'd suggest being able to keep personal and business address books, at least.

    iWork has plenty to go but it's obvious that they're adding ideas and trying to better define Pages, in particular.
     
  11. PeggyD macrumors 6502a

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    #11
    No, it doesn't have to be AppleWorks, but it does need to merge from more than just Address Book.
     
  12. dpaanlka thread starter macrumors 601

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    #12
    Right I wasn't debating that. PeggyD said page layout stuff was added to Pages.
     
  13. Mac In School macrumors 65816

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    #13
    nice but not that great.

    Love Pages.

    Hate Numbers.

    Love Keynote, but will never use it.
     
  14. aafuss1 macrumors 68000

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    #14
    Page Layout mimics MS Publisher a lot for me.
     
  15. Phil A. Moderator

    Phil A.

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    #15
    Absolutely love iWork '08 - I've now removed Microsoft Office and NeoOffice from my Mac and am using iWork exclusively. If I had to find a criticism it would be that you can't link a database in to Numbers. It's not something I've really used but it does seem like an omission for "power users". Having said that, I adore the way you can have multiple tables anywhere you want on the page - to me this feature is the biggest evolution to the spreadsheet model in over 20 years!
     
  16. Cromulent macrumors 603

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    #16
    The only thing stopping me removing NeoOffice is that I have about 100 documents in NeoOffice format and can't open them in iWork. Does anyone know a way to batch convert them to Microsoft Word format, so I can then resave them in Pages format?
     
  17. PeggyD macrumors 6502a

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    #18
    No, I said the page layout mode was added.
     
  18. dpaanlka thread starter macrumors 601

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    #19
    I don't get it anymore. Both modes were added, since there weren't any modes previously. In fact I don't even see what the difference is other than a vertical ruler.

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    But whatever it doesn't change the fact that iWork '08 is awesome in my opinion.
     
  19. Cromulent macrumors 603

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    #20
    The only reason they added a page layout mode was because of the new word processor mode. Which is what you argued against initially.
     
  20. kolax macrumors G3

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    #21
    I love it - I used Keynote a few times last year for presentations at university and I'm loving the new effects, transitions and stuff with Keynote '08.

    Haven't had a proper play with Numbers yet though, but I've not noticed much difference with Pages, but I still love the application. It is going to be really useful for making flyers for the band!

    £55? Certainly is a proper bargain.
     
  21. dpaanlka thread starter macrumors 601

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    #22
    Yes that is what I was getting at too.
     
  22. elppa macrumors 68040

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    #23
    Just been using the demo of iWork '08 now, which I downloaded.

    I have to say it is awseome! I tried the '06 demo, and I got annoyed because it kept crashing every single time I added a custom mask to one of my images. They seem to have fixed that problem.

    Not only does it run incredibly smoothly on my MacBook, but it seems not only ridiculously well featured (for a consumer app) but also super easy to use and find everything and really enjoyable to use.

    It's everything I wanted to be when I first used AppleWorks in 1999 (I remember how terrible and slow it was when using digital images).

    Bravo Apple Inc!
     
  23. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    #24
    They didn't really add either with Pages in iWork '08--they were there all along. They just marketed them as both being there and refined the way they work.
     
  24. mikes63737 macrumors 65816

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    #25
    I love iWork, but I'm not too impressed with AutoComplete in Numbers. For example, if I typed "2007" somewhere and I wanted to type "20" somewhere else, it would show "2007" until I pressed Delete. It's really annoying.
     

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