Ad blocking for Safari 4 Beta

[philosopherdog]

Seems Glimmerblocker isn't working with the beta release of Safari 4. Anyone have any luck blocking ads? Also, I'd love to block flash. The inability to block flash is probably the main reason I could never use Safari full time. The browser looks amazing and is very snappy, but alas.... I need plugin support.

 

[VSMacOne]

Seems Glimmerblocker isn't working with the beta release of Safari 4. Anyone have any luck blocking ads? Also, I'd love to block flash. The inability to block flash is probably the main reason I could never use Safari full time. The browser looks amazing and is very snappy, but alas.... I need plugin support.

SafariBlock works like a charm.

 

[quovadis]

SafariBlock works like a charm.

Agree. But I noted that in the "Show top sites" view the ads show up. No big deal. Just an observation

 

[Sorkvild]

I've been using Safari AdBlock for over a year now and it works perfectly, even with the Safari beta.

http://safariadblock.sourceforge.net/

 

[VSMacOne]

Agree. But I noted that in the "Show top sites" view the ads show up. No big deal. Just an observation

Try reloading those after you've installed SafariBlock.
TopSites remembers an image of the page after you've visited. So just give it a chance to reload that page in there, and the ads should be gone...

 

[glasserp]

Just want to point out that one of glimmer blocker's big points was saying that it wouldn't be broken by safari because it's not an input manager. It should be working:

The problem with other ad-blockers for Safari is that they are implemented as awful hacks: as an InputManager and/or ApplicationEnhancer. This compromises the stability of Safari and very often create problems when Apple releases a new version of Safari.

GlimmerBlocker is implemented as an http proxy, so the stability of Safari isn't compromised because it doesn't use any hacks. It is even compatible with all other browsers.

You'll always be able to upgrade Safari without breaking GlimmerBlocker (or waiting for a new release); and you'll be able to upgrade GlimmerBlocker without upgrading Safari. This makes it much easier to use the beta versions of Safari and especially the nightly builds of WebKit.

 

[Tastannin]

FWIW, ClickToFlash is working with the Safari 4 Beta. It was already installed in my Safari 3 setup, and when I installed the Safari 4 Beta, it just worked. Love it.

 

[philosopherdog]

Thanx for the replies. I emailed the Glimmerblocker folks and we'll see what they have to say. If I find out anything I'll post it.

 

[philosopherdog]

Ok, I think Glimmerblocker does work with the new Safari. I just disabled it and then enable it and it seems to be doing its magic. Now if only you could block flash in safari.

 

[NeXTLoop]

GlimmerBlock is working fine for me with Safari 4.

 

[glasserp]

Ok, I think Glimmerblocker does work with the new Safari. I just disabled it and then enable it and it seems to be doing its magic. Now if only you could block flash in safari.

well you can with clicktoflash.

 

[darkcurse]

I second that. Glimmerblocker works for me too. Just the odd ad that somehow gets through but no biggie.

 

[glasserp]

Is anyone using Glimmerblocker with LittleSnitch? Someone posted a comment at macupdate that I didnt quite understand?

I don`t get it. This Proxy runs fine but leaves Little Snitch useless, as the case would be for me. Every App. that fones home via http:// goes unrecognized by Little Snitch.

Can someone explain to me what this person is talking about?

 

[GGJstudios]

Just want to point out that one of glimmer blocker's big points was saying that it wouldn't be broken by safari because it's not an input manager. It should be working:

The problem with other ad-blockers for Safari is that they are implemented as awful hacks: as an InputManager and/or ApplicationEnhancer. This compromises the stability of Safari and very often create problems when Apple releases a new version of Safari.

GlimmerBlocker is implemented as an http proxy, so the stability of Safari isn't compromised because it doesn't use any hacks. It is even compatible with all other browsers.

You'll always be able to upgrade Safari without breaking GlimmerBlocker (or waiting for a new release); and you'll be able to upgrade GlimmerBlocker without upgrading Safari. This makes it much easier to use the beta versions of Safari and especially the nightly builds of WebKit.

That's nonsense, and nothing but marketing misdirection on the part of GlimmerBlocker. I use both SafariBlock and Safari AdBlock:

• They are NOT "awful" hacks of Safari.
• They do NOT compromise the stability of Safari.
• They do NOT create problems when updating Safari.
• They do NOT compromise the stability of Safari.
• They do NOT "break" when updating Safari.
• They DO run fine on Safari 4 Beta and nightly builds of WebKit.

I've never had a problem with pages loading, CPU usage, conflicts, compatibility, upgrades.... no problems at all. GlimmerBlocker is just trying to talk trash about their competitors to get more people to use their product.

 

[Catfish_Man]

Using the InputManager system to modify other applications definitely counts as an awful hack in my book. The intent of the InputManager API is completely different, it's only a convenient (and fragile) side effect that allows it to be used this way.

APE is somewhat better, but it's still very very easy for haxies to make assumptions about the internals of a program that change between versions. Anyone relying on scrollable areas of web pages being WebDynamicScrollViews would be broken by Safari 4, for example (older versions of Adium did this).

As an additional note, all the WebKit/Safari team members I've spoken to about the matter have mentioned that Safari modifications that rely on private details of the implementation are a serious problem for them, and one of the most common causes of crashes. Typically that's things like Saft or PithHelmet, not ad blockers, but something like ClickToFlash or GlimmerBlocker really is less fragile.

 

[lanaer]

Is anyone using Glimmerblocker with LittleSnitch? Someone posted a comment at macupdate that I didnt quite understand?



Can someone explain to me what this person is talking about?

LittleSnitch works by examining what apps send out information on the network. If you setup a system-wide proxy, like GlimmerBlocker, LittleSnitch will *only* see GlimmerBlocker connecting. Any app that uses the system-wide proxy configuration (and not all do, like Firefox) will be hidden from LittleSnitch, which substantially reduced its usefulness.

 

[nfable]

Another one

I use Pithhelmet myself, sometimes it takes a few weeks for an upgrade to match a new release of Safari; but its shareware and I don't get all the annoying little 'bug you' graphics.

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