Hey I posted a few days ago I was debating between getting an IMac and a MacBook. Someone in the thread mentioned the discount I get with ADC. Oh, sorry if I should have continued the old thread, but this seem to be an entirly new topic. I was woundering if someone could clear somethings up for me. I have always intended to get ADC as I would actually be a student developer and would like access to a lot of the development tool kits. I did not however plan to get my ADC until after I purchased my Apple as it only lasts for a year I believe. Therefore I would like to get the most out of it. This means I would not be using my discount and have not considered using my discount for the reasons stated below. Can someone please confirm or deny them for me? 1: Some of the discounts really don't buy you anything. E.g. getting the discount and then purchasing the iBook can actually cost you more. There is also no price list available so I can check out the prices (I am admidably intrested in the prices of IMac and Macbook at the moment, but I might decide to wait for the iBook as my friend working at Apple said that it would do everything I wanted and more but he could not say anything else... he was very tight lipped and would not even give me a date). 2: If you order through the ADC with the large discount your last on the list to get the product and it could take up to 6 or months to ship (if I order something I would like it within a month max). 3: Not everything in the regular store is available 4: You can get better deals on Ebay or Amazon (new). If you could confirm or deny those statements it would be appreciated. Thanks Sorry again if I should have just continued the other thread.