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Add Battery to Mini?


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Surely if you have power issues you want a UPS that works for more than your Mac. Your idea would be a mild benefit to a small number of people compared to them getting a proper UPS. Why would Apple re-design their mini for such a niche, when it's an already solved problem with a better solution?

Grab a Jackery and take your Mac mini camping, commuting, working through an outage, or whatever. You can do that right now without a redesigned mini. They even have USB charging ports too for your phone and laptop. Get an appropriate Jackery with multiple jacks and you can power whatever display you want too, and not some fantasy future Apple-only display that powers itself from the mini's USB connection. Heck, get a bigger one and add a mini fridge while you're at it, and some lights too. Or perhaps a heater if there's a chance it's -40 out and you're expecting a longer outage. You can power whatever it is you need for your specific situation.

And that's what a UPS built into the mini won't do... It won't handle the rest of the specific situation. If you're serious about planning for outages, you'll need a proper UPS anyway, unless you're in a super-rare minority that only needs to power their Mac, and nothing else.
 
One nice thing about the case design is that it is more than capable of keeping things cool. My 2012 i7 would idle at 70°C and frequently go above 100°C whereas my M1 mini rarely goes above 40°C even under heavy load. I don't really worry about the temperatures themselves but it's nice to never hear the fan.
 
One nice thing about the case design is that it is more than capable of keeping things cool. My 2012 i7 would idle at 70°C and frequently go above 100°C whereas my M1 mini rarely goes above 40°C even under heavy load. I don't really worry about the temperatures themselves but it's nice to never hear the fan.
It also means they have some thermal headroom if the chips get hotter in the future. Apple rarely redesigns things if they don’t have to and the Mini is one of the last designs they’re ever going to bother updating because it’s already leagues ahead of the competition as is.
 
15 year mini user here. Never had a problem with power cord coming out or catching, removing ssd’s / cables etc. only thing I’d change is adding an sd slot & usb(s) to the front of it. Doesn’t need a screen / battery as it’s a desktop device.

Get a laptop if u want protected from power cuts / batteries / screen etc
 
Apple should really update the Mini for Apple Silicon. It was designed for hot Intel desktop chips that required line power and a cooling fan and a CD ROM drive that are now ancient history.
On the other hand, the existing case provides plenty of space for quiet cooling (big heatsinks, relatively large fans, high surface area), an internal PSU and space for a generous array of ports on the back. No need to make it Apple TV sized just because they can. What I've always found ridiculous was "mini" systems that bragged about their tiny form factor, and failed to mention the massive power brick that took up desk or floor space & made cable routing a nightmare (yes, Intel NUC and even the original G4 Mac Mini - I'm looking at you). I regard the internal PSU as one of the killer features or the Mini and Studio.

There is no longer any clock speed boost, so why does it still plug in to the wall?

Because batteries run down and the wall socket doesn't. I'd wager that most people with laptops keep them on mains power when they're "docked" at the desktop. Also, go read your own post where you complain about laptops being "throttled". That's as much about power consumption as about heat (well, they're really the same thing). Even running two displays takes more power. If you want a battery powered Mini, it will have many of the same limitations as laptops.

The thick power cord catches the edge of the desk and makes it risky to turn it to access ports on the back without accidentally pulling the cord out and crashing the computer.

You seem to be the only person for whom that is a significant problem. Maybe get a longer power cord? Now, what would be nice - and a good use of the large enclosure - would be some front-mounted ports (like the Studio).

It can’t even be moved without powering it off.

If you move it regularly enough for that to be an issue, you need a laptop.
The work-around would be for Apple to provide an easy way to trigger "hibernate to disc/safe sleep" mode.

The M chips and Mac OS have advanced battery management that we pay for, but it goes to waste.
You don't pay for it - if anything you save money because Apple gets to re-use their laptop chip for the Mini. Making a special version of the M chips without battery management just for the Mini (which sells in far smaller numbers than the laptops) would be hideously expensive.

or just a few minutes of UPS to protect against unplugging and provide for graceful shutdown.

Now, that wouldn't be a bad idea - all it would need would be enough time to do a "safe sleep". Maybe a big capacitor would be enough. The question is whether it would be worth the extra cost and complexity: if you get enough power cuts/brown outs for it to be a regular problem, you need a proper UPS to keep your displays - and maybe external drives - going as well.

Taking out the internal power supply and fans would also cut down weight and reduce heat and provide space for battery.

AFAIK there's only one fan in the mini, and that's needed to cool the CPU, too. Oh, and batteries give off heat, too (esp. when charging). Anyway it's a desktop - who cares what it weighs? Even if you want to carry it around, you'll probably have to carry the power brick too, so you won't save any weight.

A MacBook only supports one external monitor. That matters for a recording studio.

The M3 MacBooks can now support two external monitors in "clamshell" mode... and if you're not in clamshell mode you've got one display built right in.

Running a studio off a laptop makes the session feel amateur
Now, that's just ridiculous.

I would love a battery so I could transport my Mini between work and home without having to power it down.
That's where making the "hibernate to disc/safe sleep" more accessible on desktops would help (I think you can enable it with Terminal commands, but it should just be a tick-box on the shutdown dialogue).

...that said, you're talking about saving about a minute by not having to start up your applications and re-open files and - even on a laptop - if you don't save your files before you sleep your computer, you're holding it wrong. Nothing wrong with transporting a mini between work and home - but it's not really what the Mini is meant for.

Ah another vote for taking batteries out of laptops too. Save money and the environment. Just get extension cord.
Sure - I've had laptops in the past that have spent 99% of their lives plugged into the wall. I also know people who have gone on using their laptops long after the battery wore out and stopped holding a charge, because all they needed was something to shuttle between desks at home and work. I've even had PC "mobile workstations" where, even from new, the battery was about as useful as pedals on a motorbike...

But here's the thing:

laptops are designed for people who need a mobile device. Even "desk commuters" who buy laptops will usually appreciate the option to use them on the train or something. You don't take out the battery because 1% of laptop users don't need it.

desktops are designed for people who don't need a mobile device - especially with Apple Silicon where there's only a marginal difference in performance between desktop and laptop. You don't add a battery because 1% of users think they need it - esp. if it means needing a power brick as well.

Put a supercapacitor in that gives the system 1 minute to "safe sleep" when the power fails? Would be nice, if it's feasible - but there's no point going beyond that on a system which depends on an external display.
 
Unlike the MacBooks, the Mini has no integrated keyboard, mouse, or screen. It's intended to remain stationary connected to peripherals. Giving it a battery won't make it portable, it's just one more part to fail. If you want portability, get one of the many MacBook options.

That said, having a built in battery to handle power brown outs, etc. would be nice.
 
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It can’t even be moved without powering it off.
If you move it regularly enough for that to be an issue, you need a laptop.
The work-around would be for Apple to provide an easy way to trigger "hibernate to disc/safe sleep" mode.
I would love a battery so I could transport my Mini between work and home without having to power it down.
That's where making the "hibernate to disc/safe sleep" more accessible on desktops would help (I think you can enable it with Terminal commands, but it should just be a tick-box on the shutdown dialogue).

That’s what the “Reopen windows when logging back in” option is for.
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And, yes, that includes app windows (e.g., Mail) other than just Finder. It’s also an option present on the Restart and Log Out dialog boxes.
 
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That’s a really good idea. Then Apple can charge an arm and a leg to replace the battery when it dies. I have a cheap battery backup power supply that I plug my mini and display into that permits an orderly shutdown in case of a power failure or momentary blip. Replacement batteries are inexpensive and easy to replace. If you want to continue working during an extended outage you can buy a larger backup UPS. Then another for your modern and router, then one for your printer, etc.
 
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15 year mini user here. Never had a problem with power cord coming out or catching, removing ssd’s / cables etc. only thing I’d change is adding an sd slot & usb(s) to the front of it. Doesn’t need a screen / battery as it’s a desktop device.

Get a laptop if u want protected from power cuts / batteries / screen etc
Just because you’ve never pulled your Mini forward and pulled the cord out, doesn’t mean you never had the problem. The problem is reflected in how careful you’ve had to be for 15 years, how constricted you’ve been. You just have no idea how free and easy and relaxed you could be if you didn’t have to be careful not to unplug your computer when cleaning under your desk or rearranging your work space.
 
Yes, the iPad mini should have a battery.
OK now we are getting somewhere. I don’t mind paying a bit more for the small touch screen, as long as the iPad Mini is able to run MacOS and has all the ports the chip can handle. (A dongle USB hub is not recommended for audio interfaces, but maybe that’s changed). A small touch screen could be useful for controlling volume and transport controls for playing music.

The iPad Mini is still a bit too wide to put in a pocket, I’d prefer even smaller, iPhone size, but thicker and heavier than a iPhone, so you can plug in lots of cables and have it stay neatly in place on a desk, for aesthetics.
 
Surely if you have power issues you want a UPS that works for more than your Mac. Your idea would be a mild benefit to a small number of people compared to them getting a proper UPS. Why would Apple re-design their mini for such a niche, when it's an already solved problem with a better solution?

Grab a Jackery and take your Mac mini camping, commuting, working through an outage, or whatever. You can do that right now without a redesigned mini. They even have USB charging ports too for your phone and laptop. Get an appropriate Jackery with multiple jacks and you can power whatever display you want too, and not some fantasy future Apple-only display that powers itself from the mini's USB connection. Heck, get a bigger one and add a mini fridge while you're at it, and some lights too. Or perhaps a heater if there's a chance it's -40 out and you're expecting a longer outage. You can power whatever it is you need for your specific situation.

And that's what a UPS built into the mini won't do... It won't handle the rest of the specific situation. If you're serious about planning for outages, you'll need a proper UPS anyway, unless you're in a super-rare minority that only needs to power their Mac, and nothing else.
Dave, if you read my post, you’d see I didn’t want a battery because I have “power issues” I want to be able to move the Mini, to be able to unplug it without having to shut down, to not worry about pulling the cord out of the back. As I said, my expensive UPS is useless when the mini gets unplugged from it.
And it’d be great to be able to use it on the patio or campsite, like people do with laptops. But I don’t want an expensive M3 Pro laptop because of throttling and precariousness and worries about theft if I bring it to coffee shop. I want a cheap light MacBook that connects wirelessly to the Mini, so I can use the laptop on the couch without it being plugged in to peripherals.

Instead of spending $2500 on a M3 Pro laptop, I want a $1000 M3 Pro mini with battery, a $1000 display that plugs into my UPS for power and also charges the Mini through one thin Thunderbolt cable, and a $500 MacBook Air that can be used wireless on on the couch, that can control Mini with AirPlay from couch.
 
OK now we are getting somewhere. I don’t mind paying a bit more for the small touch screen, as long as the iPad Mini is able to run MacOS and has all the ports the chip can handle. (A dongle USB hub is not recommended for audio interfaces, but maybe that’s changed). A small touch screen could be useful for controlling volume and transport controls for playing music.

The iPad Mini is still a bit too wide to put in a pocket, I’d prefer even smaller, iPhone size, but thicker and heavier than a iPhone, so you can plug in lots of cables and have it stay neatly in place on a desk, for aesthetics.

So using a laptop in the studio for recording and whatnot is amateur, but using an iPad mini is okay...?
 
The Mini is a desktop computer.
It isn't a laptop or portable.
Stop right there.
Do not pass "go".
Do not collect $200.
The Mini used to be a desktop computer back when it used Intel desktop chips. Now it uses laptop chips, the same specs as a MacBook. The Mac Studio is still a desktop computer, because it uses two M chips fused together so still needs line level power (and why it isn’t available in a MacBook). Apple seems to know many of their customers have a requirement for thick line level power cords, even if they don’t need the horsepower of the Studio they want the power cords and hot tower on their desktop to look at and feel the heat emanating from it, and won’t feel as professional using a low power laptop chip. It’s a real feeling, laptops are associated with amateurs and rinky dink productions, so pro recording studios want their customers to feel they are getting something they can’t get at home.)
 
So using a laptop in the studio for recording and whatnot is amateur, but using an iPad mini is okay...?
Well, no that would seem amateur too, which is why I want a new form factor, like a thicker iPhone sized brick, and still called a Mac Mini not an iPad. It also has to run Mac OS and be the M Pro chip in the fastest MacBook with optimized passive cooling and built in ports (no dongles and hubs that look slow).
 
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