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For some hit songs iTunes is 87% more expensive!

ex.
Just Dance - Lady GaGa ($0.69 Amazon, $1.29 iTunes)

Why would someone still use iTunes?
 
Wow... was just upped to $0.79 just after I posted this (I didn't know they changed prices throughout the day). Okay, so now only 63% more.
 
For some hit songs iTunes is 87% more expensive!

ex.
Just Dance - Lady GaGa ($0.69 Amazon, $1.29 iTunes)

Why would someone still use iTunes?

Itunes has 10 million songs, Amazon has 5 millions, Amazon also sells songs for 1.29, itunes is higher quality, I have an iphone and ipod touch, more convenient for me.
 
That seems backwards. It's always about the money...
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For some hit songs iTunes is 87% more expensive!

ex.
Just Dance - Lady GaGa ($0.69 Amazon, $1.29 iTunes)

Why would someone still use iTunes?
People will listen to anything now.... No talent, can't sing, terrible song... Just my opinion, though.
 
Looks like it's time to start downloading singles for free again. At a buck it's not biggie, and while it's only 30 cents more that's enough for me to say pound sand, I'll just aquire my music through other means that will not line the pockets of the music lables.
 
"True to supply-and-demand economics..."
well, if a song was a scarce fully un-replicable resource, then yes, there would be a demand supply theory, however, since the song has already been produced, the supply is perfectly elastic. It's just money, no theories.

And the marginal cost of production is, well, nill or very close to it. Where as the marginal price for each song is very steep. Considering one can easily pirate all this music, such a pricing and supply model is ridiculously ineffective at best. A monthy all u can eat pass for iTunes would increase their revenue and profits enourmously and increase the willingness people have to actually pay for their music. Stupid record labels. It is so painfully clear and yet they are so reluctant..
 
The sound of the MP3s on Amazon is crap. Heck, the recent upgrade of everything to iTunes+ has only just made Apple's sound worth buying to me, though I still wish that that they would offer lossless audio. CD-quality is crappy enough as it is.

Rant said, the AAC 256 files are at least of decent quality. AAC seems to have it all over MP3 at similar compression rates.

I followed audiophile newsgroups for years and 90% of them had no idea what they could actually hear, only what they BELIEVED they could hear. I'd like to see you prove in a double blind test that you can actually (as in statistically better than guessing) tell the difference between a 128kbps AAC song and a 256kpbs one, let alone between a CD and a 24-/bit/96kHz stereo SACD. I'd be willing to bet $$$ that you'd fail at both (although it is possible to win at 128 versus 256). Most audiophiles are shocked to find they cannot tell any differences of any bragging claims they make what-so-ever once it's a double-blind test. Most then go on to state how unreliable double-blind scientific testing is which is akin to saying that basic arithmetic is inaccurate.

I'm afraid a properly mastered 16-bit normal audio CD is well beyond the hearing capability of most normal human beings, seeing as you'd have to crank it up to have peaks over 96dB to even begin to test the dynamic range limitations and most music has FAR FAR less than that much dynamic range to begin with (most less than the LP's capability with pop music) and any human that claims he can hear higher frequencies than 22kHz is an out-and-out liar. Any human that claims higher sampling frequencies somehow record more audio information is ignorant of digital sampling. Brick-Wall filtering hasn't been a technical problem for over 20 years so don't bring that up (oversampling, 1-bit DACS, etc. all came out in the '80s).

There IS some great recording benefits to 24-bit-/96kHz, but it's all in the headroom department (to maximize dynamic range without worrying about things like clipping in live recording). Mastering down to 16/44.1 is just fine and as I said, most recordings do not even REMOTELY take advantage of the capabilities of the Compact Disc format as it is. Arguments could be made for more channels (I have some nice DTS recordings in 4 and 5 channels), but that has little to do with the iTunes store or most recordings in general as they are simply not offered as such. As for AAC, 256kbps is indistinguishable from lossless in all the double blind testing I've seen and only becomes a problem in succeeding generations if you tried to convert it to something else and then back again for some reason.

like any 'everyday' listener would notice...
and if you happen to be those people with high quality ear/headphones and who care about song quality that much, you wouldnt be using an iPod as an MP3 player and you would go FLAC.

What's wrong with iPods as music players? They support MP3, AAC and Apple Lossless. As for FLAC, it's nice that it's an open standard but Apple Lossless is ALSO 100% lossless (easily proven by playing a DTS music CD over my AppleTV unit with it as it would not decode if even one bit were out of place). Because Apple Lossless is lossless, you can always convert to WAV or FLAC in the future if there some need to do so. In other words, these are not reasons to avoid iPods. But the "care about song quality" thing is BS for the reasons outlined above. Lossless is not necessary to achieve virtual lossless to the human ear which simply cannot hear the differences claimed. If it could, passing double blind tests versus something like 256kbps AAC would be easy to do.
 
Alternatives to Amazon and iTunes

I've been downloading from emusic, so far so good but they only have independent label artists. They have a subscription based system and I pay 11.99/month for 30 downloads per month.

Also decided to support my local record store...in this competitive economy the little guys need all the help they can get.
 
I have tracks both off amazon and itunes and while some sound superior in aac i have to say some of the amazon tracks do sound better to me.
 
on one hand, i do think it's completely idiotic to expect that at $1.29 people are gonna pay for a song instead of opening up limewire. But i do find it hilarious that the songs that are $1.29 are the ones that are so popular. So the idiots that listen to all of that Lady GaGa, Miley Cirus, and any other crappy rap, you suckers have to pay extra, lol. I'm so glad i listen to indie!!!
 
I followed audiophile newsgroups for years and 90% of them had no idea what they could actually hear, only what they BELIEVED they could hear. I'd like to see you prove in a double blind test that you can actually (as in statistically better than guessing) tell the difference between a 128kbps AAC song and a 256kpbs one, let alone between a CD and a 24-/bit/96kHz stereo SACD. I'd be willing to bet $$$ that you'd fail at both (although it is possible to win at 128 versus 256). Most audiophiles are shocked to find they cannot tell any differences of any bragging claims they make what-so-ever once it's a double-blind test. Most then go on to state how unreliable double-blind scientific testing is which is akin to saying that basic arithmetic is inaccurate.

I'm afraid a properly mastered 16-bit normal audio CD is well beyond the hearing capability of most normal human beings, seeing as you'd have to crank it up to have peaks over 96dB to even begin to test the dynamic range limitations and most music has FAR FAR less than that much dynamic range to begin with (most less than the LP's capability with pop music) and any human that claims he can hear higher frequencies than 22kHz is an out-and-out liar. Any human that claims higher sampling frequencies somehow record more audio information is ignorant of digital sampling. Brick-Wall filtering hasn't been a technical problem for over 20 years so don't bring that up (oversampling, 1-bit DACS, etc. all came out in the '80s).

There IS some great recording benefits to 24-bit-/96kHz, but it's all in the headroom department (to maximize dynamic range without worrying about things like clipping in live recording). Mastering down to 16/44.1 is just fine and as I said, most recordings do not even REMOTELY take advantage of the capabilities of the Compact Disc format as it is. Arguments could be made for more channels (I have some nice DTS recordings in 4 and 5 channels), but that has little to do with the iTunes store or most recordings in general as they are simply not offered as such. As for AAC, 256kbps is indistinguishable from lossless in all the double blind testing I've seen and only becomes a problem in succeeding generations if you tried to convert it to something else and then back again for some reason.



What's wrong with iPods as music players? They support MP3, AAC and Apple Lossless. As for FLAC, it's nice that it's an open standard but Apple Lossless is ALSO 100% lossless (easily proven by playing a DTS music CD over my AppleTV unit with it as it would not decode if even one bit were out of place). Because Apple Lossless is lossless, you can always convert to WAV or FLAC in the future if there some need to do so. In other words, these are not reasons to avoid iPods. But the "care about song quality" thing is BS for the reasons outlined above. Lossless is not necessary to achieve virtual lossless to the human ear which simply cannot hear the differences claimed. If it could, passing double blind tests versus something like 256kbps AAC would be easy to do.

Well said. Well. Said.
 
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this was taken from all things digital Peter Kafka

None of the label executives I contacted at Warner Music Group (WMG), Universal Music Group, Sony (SNE) and EMI Music Group would talk to me on the record. But several of them promised that consumers will soon start seeing lots of old stuff marked down at the new bottom tier price. “For every one track at $1.29, there are about 10 tracks at 69 cents”, one told me. “75% of the tracks are staying at .99 and we will be pricing down a far greater number of tracks than we will price up,” added another. (Another inexplicably argued that the labels don’t set retail pricing at all, but that’s a stretch: The labels do set wholesale pricing, which correlates to Apple’s retail price).

The label folks say that it takes longer for Apple (AAPL) to ingest the pricing changes than you’d think, and that’s the reason for the delay. Then again, this stuff has been in the works since early January. And you’d think that Apple or the labels would have made a point of coming out of the gate with lots of cheap stuff, so that folks like me wouldn’t obsess about the more expensive tracks.
 
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