Adobe Adding Support for Mac Pro's Afterburner Card to Premiere Pro

[chfilm]

This is great news. Now if only they would do something about the HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE UI performance in Premiere on the new Mac Pro + XDR Display....
it's unusable. I was just editing at a client's on a 5k Imac (not pro) with an old apple TB Display attached and in 1440p resolution, Premiere was such a charm to use. Came back home to my Mac Pro with XDR and it's so unbelievably choppy and sluggish that I absolutely don't wanna use it anymore. The AB Support is nice and a good sign, but it doesn't really help with the bigger performance issues that Premiere has on this machine.
Check out my video where you can see what I mean:

That's what I'm talking about

 

[Winni]

Umm. Why wasn't it supported already?

Because it makes so much economic sense to prioritize a feature that is only being used by four or five people on the planet... How many Mac Pros with that card have been sold?

 

[junior]

I gave FCPX a solid try last year but Davinci Resolve has taken all the best parts of FCP 7 and moved forward with it.
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I really gave it a shot but there were so many unintuitive aspects that it made simple editing so frustrating. I ended up going with Davinci Resolve and I couldn't be happier. It's really similar to FCP 7 and is very solid. I'm really not sure who FCP X is geared for. I am a video editor and started on Avid and Media 100 a very long time ago and I've never seen anything like it. I'm sure for certain tasks it might be great but it really felt like it was based on iMovie when I tried it.

I'm getting to grips with editing on Davinci Studio, and I like it a lot. But the one major gripe I have with it is its dependency on GPU. A massive positive using desktop PC or even eGPU with a MacBook, but when wanting to do quick work while on the road, it's just too slow even with my 16 inch MacBook.
Premiere's horrible dependency on CPU rather than GPU actually works in its favor when working on a laptop.
FCPX works quickly on whatever setup and I love it for that but it still lacks features unfortunately. Keyframe workflow is still horrible and limited.

 

[kylelerner]

Adobe is seeking Mac Pro users with an Afterburner card to test the ProRes 422 or 4444 support to improve the feature.

Even Adobe won’t cough up the cash.
You’da thought Apple would’ve sent them early access hardware months before it was announced; it would have benefited both parties.

 

[mBox]

I wish it had the snappiness of FCX because there's no way in hell I'm using FCX...

And yet your username is Media Composer
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Let me answer that, because FCP X is a hot mess

yes its hot

... am I heading myself into a corner of despair too?

Most that go in with a positive work/learn attitude never have issues with newer tech.
I've been around long enough to not bother taking advice from the jaded.
I had to go through most of the NLEs due to job moves and I benefited by taking on the tech with open arms.
Oh, and it helps that I get to teach Avid MC, Premiere and FCP/FPCX as a side-job.
You really get to see how new/experience/jaded users react during the process

 

[mBox]

You obviously didn’t try it

I frequent most forums and this is always the norm.
I'll flip this around though.
I'm tasked to start instructing Resolve at local college.
Now with current Covid I will have to create an online version instead.
Sucks cause I'm much better live.
So far the truth is that some but not all functions are similar to FCP7.
To be honest unless you are my age, I cant see most trying to bring that version up against anything recent.
My suggestion is to learn it all.
I had too in order to compete up here (Canada).
From Premiere 1.0 to media100, Avid MC (to date), Premiere Pro (brought back from the dead), FCP 1-7, FCPX and now Resolve, I think we are all lucky we have so many options.

 

[MacPoulet]

I don't think clients dictate what editing program you're using?

They certainly do if you’re a specialist post house that’s either fixing or adding to an existing project.

For the post-house a friend owns, their clients are production companies and other studios, not the final client.
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I frequent most forums and this is always the norm.
I'll flip this around though.
I'm tasked to start instructing Resolve at local college.
Now with current Covid I will have to create an online version instead.
Sucks cause I'm much better live.
So far the truth is that some but not all functions are similar to FCP7.
To be honest unless you are my age, I cant see most trying to bring that version up against anything recent.
My suggestion is to learn it all.
I had too in order to compete up here (Canada).
From Premiere 1.0 to media100, Avid MC (to date), Premiere Pro (brought back from the dead), FCP 1-7, FCPX and now Resolve, I think we are all lucky we have so many options.

Yep, we’re looking to move away from Adobe as much as possible in our teaching and have started teaching Resolve more.

I always tell my students that these are tools to get the job done, and that you’re going to use whatever tool your employer gives you.

 

[mBox]

They certainly do if you’re a specialist post house that’s either fixing or adding to an existing project.

For the post-house a friend owns, their clients are production companies and other studios, not the final client.
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I always tell my students that these are tools to get the job done, and that you’re going to use whatever tool your employer gives you.

On the nose about client-driven.
Last year alone, I had to work in three different NLEs just for one feature-length film.
Why is that you say?
Off-set I did the dailies and synced RED 8K/Audio using FCPX since its so stupid fast.
Plus they wanted it all on frame io and at the time FCPX was smoother for export.
I was given 8 hours to complete each day for review.
Then during assembly (4 months later), I stayed within FCPX just so I can take advantage of the synced clips knowing full well that the client/studio wanted it in both Premiere and Avid MC after.
Now, why didn't I just do all this in one NLE?
To get work you need to be fast and efficient.
I've experienced the horrors of using Avid MC as audio sync even if timecode was present.
And Premiere you would have to add at least a half a day each day for dailies.
I am not in Hollywood where I can dictate the tools to be used.

Now if people think they can, so be it and good luck with that.

 

[jeffhalmos]

If Adobe was a company of 15 people it would have been supported before it was even released.

 

[robsp2000]

I frequent most forums and this is always the norm.
I'll flip this around though.
I'm tasked to start instructing Resolve at local college.
Now with current Covid I will have to create an online version instead.
Sucks cause I'm much better live.
So far the truth is that some but not all functions are similar to FCP7.
To be honest unless you are my age, I cant see most trying to bring that version up against anything recent.
My suggestion is to learn it all.
I had too in order to compete up here (Canada).
From Premiere 1.0 to media100, Avid MC (to date), Premiere Pro (brought back from the dead), FCP 1-7, FCPX and now Resolve, I think we are all lucky we have so many options.

I guess I'm lucky that in my position (own my own business) I have been able to choose what platform I work in for the last 15 years or so. Before that I definitely had to stay flexible. I started in Avid but thought Media 100 was a better program. I had to work in premiere as well and although not terrible in my opinion I was never a fan. FCP 1-7 were just solid affordable programs and I guess that made the FCP X so frustrating to me. They completely changed it (couldn't even open FCP 7 projects - I literally have to keep an old Mac Pro just in case a client requests something from 2005-2017). Do I think it's unusable, no. But it is a shame to me that they couldn't build off of 7 and make it even better. So when it was time for me to upgrade my OS and FCP 7 had to go I gave Premiere, FCP X, and Resolve an honest shot. If I have to choose to work in something everyday, by far I would pick Resolve.

 

[VictorTango777]

The industry is supposed to serve Apple, not the other way around

 

[mediacomposer]

Have you used FCPX lately? I find it much more stable than PP, and the speed in both editing and exporting is unmatched.

I have no doubt that this is true - but the UI and usability of FCX as a professional is just unreasonable. PP and Avid have the market share they do for a reason - if you're a youtuber or an amateur FCX is fine. Davinci is making moves and I have to respect that.

 

[VictorTango777]

Does Premiere have the same performance issues on a Windows PC?

 

[cwkoller5]

I gave FCPX a solid try last year but Davinci Resolve has taken all the best parts of FCP 7 and moved forward with it.
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I really gave it a shot but there were so many unintuitive aspects that it made simple editing so frustrating. I ended up going with Davinci Resolve and I couldn't be happier. It's really similar to FCP 7 and is very solid. I'm really not sure who FCP X is geared for. I am a video editor and started on Avid and Media 100 a very long time ago and I've never seen anything like it. I'm sure for certain tasks it might be great but it really felt like it was based on iMovie when I tried it.

Unlearning is the hardest part of using FCPX, and no disrespect meant in that. When you can *fly* in the FCP7/Avid metaphor, it's like Yoyo Ma having his cello replaced with a bassoon to do the switch. DaVinci Resolve looked at Apple's woes and did a great job meeting somewhere in the middle - innovation with familiarity. But for younger editors coming up on FCPX it's just as hard to "look backward" at the original timeline editing model.

 

[daley]

I gave FCPX a solid try last year but Davinci Resolve has taken all the best parts of FCP 7 and moved forward with it.
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I really gave it a shot but there were so many unintuitive aspects that it made simple editing so frustrating. I ended up going with Davinci Resolve and I couldn't be happier. It's really similar to FCP 7 and is very solid. I'm really not sure who FCP X is geared for. I am a video editor and started on Avid and Media 100 a very long time ago and I've never seen anything like it. I'm sure for certain tasks it might be great but it really felt like it was based on iMovie when I tried it.

That's fair. It's definitely a learning curve, but once it clicks it all makes so much sense. When I need to use PP for particular projects it feels super clunky and like I'm stepping back 10 years. Resolve is great too, and the fact they have a free version is hard to beat. I actually think Resolve is more like FCPX than FCP 7/PP. I really love Resolve's different windows for editing/color/etc. I think BM actually listens to feedback for DR unlike Apple with FCPX. While I love FCPX there are still things they could improve.

 

[maikerukun]

I gave FCPX a solid try last year but Davinci Resolve has taken all the best parts of FCP 7 and moved forward with it.
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I really gave it a shot but there were so many unintuitive aspects that it made simple editing so frustrating. I ended up going with Davinci Resolve and I couldn't be happier. It's really similar to FCP 7 and is very solid. I'm really not sure who FCP X is geared for. I am a video editor and started on Avid and Media 100 a very long time ago and I've never seen anything like it. I'm sure for certain tasks it might be great but it really felt like it was based on iMovie when I tried it.

Just to explain it to you, it's for editors who started at the END of the FCP7 lifespan. Guys like you are way too burned into your habits to unlearn what you already know. But who it's for? Guys like me. I've been on Final Cut since 1998 but that FCPX is BEYOND FAST. I've been on FCP7, Premiere, and Avid for a decade but none of them and I mean NONE of them hold a candle to how fast FCPX is and how quickly you can get things done. When I cut feature films I absolutely suggest to my clients FCPX before anything. And if they already had their hearts set on Avid I show them why and they're always stunned and confused why everyone isn't using FCPX.

The magnetic timeline makes everything so damn logical and swift and the 3rd party plugs make the suite virtually unstoppable. A project that would take me 5 days in Premiere will honestly legitimately only take me 2 or 3 in FCPX.

Nothing against your generation and the old ways, but the reason you can't wrap your mind around it is because the old way of doing things is just too burned into you. In the end, the only thing that matters is getting the job done the best way YOU know how, using whatever tool unlocks YOUR best work. And that's why the diversity of applications is always going to be a GOOD THING

 

[robsp2000]

Just to explain it to you, it's for editors who started at the END of the FCP7 lifespan. Guys like you are way too burned into your habits to unlearn what you already know. But who it's for? Guys like me. I've been on Final Cut since 1998 but that FCPX is BEYOND FAST. I've been on FCP7, Premiere, and Avid for a decade but none of them and I mean NONE of them hold a candle to how fast FCPX is and how quickly you can get things done. When I cut feature films I absolutely suggest to my clients FCPX before anything. And if they already had their hearts set on Avid I show them why and they're always stunned and confused why everyone isn't using FCPX.

The magnetic timeline makes everything so damn logical and swift and the 3rd party plugs make the suite virtually unstoppable. A project that would take me 5 days in Premiere will honestly legitimately only take me 2 or 3 in FCPX.

Nothing against your generation and the old ways, but the reason you can't wrap your mind around it is because the old way of doing things is just too burned into you. In the end, the only thing that matters is getting the job done the best way YOU know how, using whatever tool unlocks YOUR best work. And that's why the diversity of applications is always going to be a GOOD THING

Have you tried Resolve? I had the absolute opposite experience in FCPX. It over complicated the simplest tasks for me and I wasn't asking it to do much.