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Well that sounds…. bad
Thats what we had before, I still have all my boxes and disks.

Or you can look at something like Capture One, £24 a month or £299 for a perpetual licence that lasts about a year because you need the next version for macOS 13/14/15 and you need to buy a new licence for new features and to support new cameras. Ether you pay for updates in a big lump sum or in smaller bite size pieces.

Perpetual licenses are not a sustainable business model for developers. Subscriptions are easier to manage, we deal with much less piracy, don't need overly sophisticated DRM anymore, and we can let you run on multiple personal machines instead of requiring a licence per machine. Those old $899 licences where just for one machine and not my laptop too.
 
Even in this cancerous subscription culture Adobe still doesn’t want to bring feature parity between iPad and Mac version? I mean they are working on it which is good. Maybe bring more keyboard shortcuts on iPad as well if there is any?
I am not sure if folks here have checkout using the iPad as a screen for their Mac (also allowing the use of touch/pencil). While there is sidecar, check out these folks. They are known for this type of stuff being used also with other art apps.


I think the catch is to make sure you set up the layout of your screen so it works well on an iPad or use the iPad in combo with Photoshop (or other app) on the Mac.
 
Get Affinity Photo. It's almost as full fledged as photoshop and it's a one time payment (Per platform). I bought it during black Friday, and I will be letting my adobe sub expire in Feb when it's up for renewal, because it's that good.
Bought it.
Will try it more of course, but my initial thought: My GOD the UI is just horrible, it’s like there was NO optimization for iPad at all. Just a desktop app on an iPad. Holy smokes.
 
I hate Adobe’s subscription plan for Photoshop. Would actually think about buying it if it was a one of lump sum of maybe 30-50 bucks.
Right?

These MacRumors articles are sound more and more like 1st-party marketing.

Photoshop for iPad is available through Adobe's Creative Cloud plans, which are priced starting at $9.99 for the Photography plan. The Photography plan includes Lightroom for desktop and mobile, Lightroom Classic, Photoshop on desktop and iPad, and 20GB of cloud storage. A Photoshop-only subscription is also available for $20.99 per month, and that plan includes 100GB storage.

Like why is it so hard to report the pricing (with a caveat prices may change or differ in your region) of the Smudge and Sponge Tool? Or if free at least report it's FREE. The links for each tool is just informative of what they do, nothing on pricing if any at all or if free.

Uggh.
 
Most filters besides Gaussian blur and Invert
Layer effects and styles
Smart filters
Magnetic lasso
Polygon lasso
Warp
Liquify
Content aware fill
They STILL don't have smart filters? Wow.
I do have it in my iPad as I'm a subscriber but just can't get myself to even trying it out due to its limitations.
Shame, as I really would love to get my photo editing flow onto the iPad Pro 12.9, as I do really like the Apple Pencil.
 
Capture One is coming to the iPad early next year. Hopefully they get the RAW workflow sorted and then it'll pair up nicely with Photoshop if you want to do more.
Really! I didn’t know that. Where is there more information about this? I dont use Capture One but always considering other options for my iPad workflow. Thanks.
 
More like 31yrs… smudge tool literally existed on Photoshop 1.0 and sponge was added in 2.5

I was using these tools on a 25mhz Quadra with 8MB memory?

Smudge and sponge tool existed on Photoshop 3.0 in 1994.
A Mac back then was maxed out with a 200 MHz single core cpu and 128 MB of RAM and typically had a 2 GB hard drive.

The iPad is finally now getting a 27 year old editing tool that worked fine on a machine 20X less powerful.
Exciting!
 
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More like 31yrs… smudge tool literally existed on Photoshop 1.0 and sponge was added in 2.5

I was using these tools on a 25mhz Quadra with 8MB memory?

And that'll be about how old the code was that needed to be rewritten to behave exactly the same way as user expect of Photoshop.
 
Also for those who want actual parity between desktop and iPad. And those who want speed.
I wouldn’t add speed in there as a factor, depend on where in the workflow you’re looking at it from. For example on the iPad using spot removal, Photoshop is a lot faster than AF. This type of thing is really where speed matters.
 
Puzzling how Adobe deals with its mobile apps features: now Photoshop have this two new tools which seem to belong more to Fresco, while still missing basic features like alignment tools ?‍♂️
 
I used to be an avid and demanding follower of Photoshop. Then after the subscription craze started, we broke free and are now perfectly happy with Affintiy (mac and mobile). In retrospect, Adobe certainly made a mistake with this, but as long as their initiators are not fired, this will not be acknowledged.

I rarely praise Microsoft, but they have affordable standalone versions in addition to their subscription crap.
 
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I used to be an avid and demanding follower of Photoshop. Then after the subscription craze started, we broke free and are now perfectly happy with Affintiy (mac and mobile). In retrospect, Adobe certainly made a mistake with this, but as long as their initiators are not fired, this will not be acknowledged.
I do like the logical layout and types of customizing PS offered. I also have Affinity products on my desktop and my iPad. I will most likely use the iPad as an extension of my Desktop as I don't like the Affinity for iPads. That works fine for me and just need to get a better handle on how Affinity is laid out and what is counterpart to PS.
 
I do like the logical layout and types of customizing PS offered. I also have Affinity products on my desktop and my iPad. I will most likely use the iPad as an extension of my Desktop as I don't like the Affinity for iPads. That works fine for me and just need to get a better handle on how Affinity is laid out and what is counterpart to PS.
I had to get used to it too. But now I love Affinitiy. Only a few details I found easier to handle in PS. Of course, in addition to habit, this is also a question of individual inner logic and creative intuition, which is always a little different, without that being better or worse.

In terms of functionality, however, PS is no longer superior to Affinity in any way.

If Adobe had offered it as a standalone full version, I probably would have bought it in addition to Affinity out of nostalgia. I was terribly disappointed at the time when, after a long announcement hype, a very, very late first test version from Adobe was released. I got the impression that they no longer had any good, fast software people. That was a great pity.

Personally, I'm hoping for a full editing integration of Affinity into Apple's Photos app, which has only been partial so far. And that will certainly never come from Adobe.
 
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Smudge and sponge tool existed on Photoshop 3.0 in 1994.
A Mac back then was maxed out with a 200 MHz single core cpu and 128 MB of RAM and typically had a 2 GB hard drive.

The iPad is finally now getting a 27 year old editing tool that worked fine on a machine 20X less powerful.
Exciting!
Specs aren’t even close. I bought a Centris in 1993, standard specs were WAY lower. Standard model was 4MB RAM, 80 MB drive.

I bought my first 1TB external drive from APS for almost $2000 around that time. And Macintosh CD-ROM options were all read only. A wrtitable CD drive was $5000. I used to take my 1TB drive to a third party shop to create CD-R’s for $100 each…

Even the Quadra 840, which was their super high end tower, shipped with 8MB or 16MB RAM. I’d suspect a 840 with 128MB RAM , a 1 TB HDD and a CD-R would have run $15-20,000 back then.

Apple ComputerProcessor
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Macintosh Centris 61020 MHz* 68LC040

Intro.February 10, 1993Disc.October 21, 1993
Order No:M1345LL/A*ModelM1444 (Gestalt 52)
Std. RAM:4 MB, 8 MBVRAM512k*
Storage80, 230, 500 MB*Optical2X CD-ROM (Optional*)
Complete Macintosh Centris 610 Specs

 
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More like 31yrs… smudge tool literally existed on Photoshop 1.0 and sponge was added in 2.5

I was using these tools on a 25mhz Quadra with 8MB memory?
I seem to remember 3.0 was when Adobe first introduced layers, right? Photoshop 2.5 was destructive, with only one step back I remember have lots of intermediate backups in case you needed to revert back a number of steps. Boy, we forget how hard everything was back then, with limited storage and boxed in with 8bit color on most of our customers computers!
 
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Thanks for the tip (insert joke here). I have Pixelmator Photo and Procreate right now, but will definitely check out Affinity Photo. Pretty cheap.
Both Procreate and Affinity Photo are great apps. Pixelmator Photo is very limited still, not a complete solution like Pixelmator Pro on the Mac. I mainly use Affinity Photo on the iPad, and only go to the Mac version when there's a feature that's only available there.
 
I used to be an avid and demanding follower of Photoshop. Then after the subscription craze started, we broke free and are now perfectly happy with Affintiy (mac and mobile). In retrospect, Adobe certainly made a mistake with this, but as long as their initiators are not fired, this will not be acknowledged.

I rarely praise Microsoft, but they have affordable standalone versions in addition to their subscription crap.
Adobe made a mistake with it? Their revenues went from $4 billion to $12 billion a year since they switched to the subscription model. I realize a lot of people don't particularly care for it but I'd hardly call that a mistake.
 
I seem to remember 3.0 was when Adobe first introduced layers, right? Photoshop 2.5 was destructive, with only one step back I remember have lots of intermediate backups in case you needed to revert back a number of steps. Boy, we forget how hard everything was back then, with limited storage and boxed in with 8bit color on most of our customers computers!
Yep, and a ton of alpha channels for re-selecting elements. You definitely had to have a game plan going in or you’d back yourself into a corner eventually.
 
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