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I’m sure that you could install an Nvidia card, but it would only be usable in Windows since Tim Apple is still butthurt about the NVidia MacBook fiasco.

And rightly so.

Also, MacOS Nvidia drivers have never been as good as AMD ones.

I'm happy to see Nvidia out on their ass on Mac until they can deliver a more reliable product and a better experience.
 
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So far, I have yet to see any mention or acknowledgement that we can use Nvidia cards in the new Mac Pro. Until his happens, this machine will not sell well. I like the direction it's going, but when you tell your customers that you can't use the GPU you prefer, your customers become someone else's customers.

Apple has presented a solution to problem, that problem being processing multiple 8K video streams in real time. By focusing on Nvidia you are focusing more on HOW the problem is solved more so than IS the problem solved. Apple has rarely given its users as much choice as they like, this is nothing new. I doubt that Nvidia not being used will have anything to do with how well this sells.

This looks like a beast of a product so far. The people that might pay $30,000 don't really care who made the video card, professionals only care about things like performance, cost and reliability.
 
I love it, can never afford it, but it really really reminded me of those old desktop Silicon Graphics systems where you had the potential for silly silly silly power on your desktop!
This was exactly what the pros had been asking for. I’ll have to go and drool over one sometime. But I also really like the new iPad Pro design :)

I think next year just surely be the year the iMac gets a new fresh design?

The price of the new Mac Pro is as expected really, but you add to it as you go.. the point of a PC no?
It has a really ridiculous power supply output, well thought out cooling, endless options.
The monitor looks great, the bad point of course being a stupidly priced stand. And that the matte option costs a grand more..
But looks good otherwise.

The only thing I would question is how many Pros would want that monitors features but in an OLED, then again they are only now thinking of launching 48” OLED TVs next year..

But 8K is now being talked about, Sony has stated it’s new PlayStation 5 or whatever they call it will support 8K, although doubt that’ll be native.
So as mad as it sounds 8K is where they think it’s going over the next few years.

I did read that the human eye can only tell a difference up to 12K? I don’t know if that’s with perfect vision too though?
 
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Apple has presented a solution to problem, that problem being processing multiple 8K video streams in real time. By focusing on Nvidia you are focusing more on HOW the problem is solved more so than IS the problem solved. Apple has rarely given its users as much choice as they like, this is nothing new. I doubt that Nvidia not being used will have anything to do with how well this sells.

This looks like a beast of a product so far. The people that might pay $30,000 don't really care who made the video card, professionals only care about things like performance, cost and reliability.

What about gaming?
 
The price does not represent the specs of the machine, but the upgrade potential that Apple has kept from professionals for many years now.
For the users that need power up near the medium to higher range of what it can offer, it might very well make sense.
No one buys this machine to not upgrade it past 32g ram and a sick joke of a 250gig ssd
 
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I have had my Mac Pro for 11 years...in that time it's finally gotten to the point that the basic Apple gear is about as fast (not counting the SSD improvement I haven't added). I wish the price on this was a bit lower...I'm not sure that I really need to have the amount of power anymore, back then I was still doing some gaming and other things but not really anymore. On the other hand, I can afford to upgrade to this, and it will likely last me a decade (and I can use my current monitors instead of going for an iMac). I think I'll wait to see what the performance looks like in the various versions and then decide what to get...maybe it's a Mac Mini for a few years, then the second gen of this (which is what I did the last time I upgraded and ended up with my Mac Pro).

I'm just glad to see Apple finally make a kick ass computer for pros again...and you can tell the design team really put something into this one, it's once again Apple that has about the most powerful single computer out there after a long hiatus of making sexy computers. It's good to see, hopefully it's not just a move to keep pros happy for a couple years but a real sea change at the company.
 
“I haven’t heard from NVidea”. You probably won’t either. Whatever reason there is for the bad blood between the 2 companies is still there, and given the choice to bury the hatchet and both companies make more money or to keep the feud going no matter the cost both companies will keep going.

Having said that, with the hardware that’s is available how does the new Mac Pro compare performance, price and feature wise with comparable computers? If it does what it’s supposed to do and it does it better then NVidea is a non issue. If it doesn’t then Apple should feel the heat, but preferably from people who both know what it’s actually missing beyond a name on a piece of hardware and what company X can do because they do use NVIDEA. I don’t know, so I don’t really have an informed opinion.
 
I don’t understand the pricing of the new display. So it’s $4999 or $5999 but then the stand is an additional $999 (which is a crazy price for a fricken stand!). If you have to buy the stand and VESA mount separately, what do you put it on if you don’t want the fancy stand? Are you forced to buy the VESA mount and source your own stand?
 
I’m pretty sure that with holes that big, Photoshop would just leak out all over the floor.

Then you’d have to buy another subscription.
 
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Adobe will be wasting resources to support this machine, only 10 units will sell at that ridiculous price. Shame on Apple.
 
I was really looking forward to this. My old 2008 Mac Pro really needed upgrading.

Unfortunately though, storage and power are important to me. Having SSD only is going to have to be a no from me.

If they’d just gone back to the old design, allowed for a mixture of SSD and HDD, I’d have pounced on this and bought it.

So it looks like I’ll be upgrading with a second hand 2012 Mac Pro for now, and hoping that Apple try to inject some function back into their Pro lines. Thunderbolt is hopeless for storage.
 
After every Pro gets announced, it's fun to see the off the shelf equivalent. Now it's been a while since I've priced out a $6k production machine but it would be nice once it's released to see the benchmarks. This machine sounds impressive and the design is neat, but dollar for dollar, will it be worth it?
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I was really looking forward to this. My old 2008 Mac Pro really needed upgrading.

Unfortunately though, storage and power are important to me. Having SSD only is going to have to be a no from me.

If they’d just gone back to the old design, allowed for a mixture of SSD and HDD, I’d have pounced on this and bought it.

So it looks like I’ll be upgrading with a second hand 2012 Mac Pro for now, and hoping that Apple try to inject some function back into their Pro lines. Thunderbolt is hopeless for storage.
I get what you're saying and I feel there should be space for HDD storage however if you're using slower disc for storage, I'd feel investing in a proper NAS would be preferred. The SSD space is perfect for the bandwidth of large file manipulation like video editing. Offload everything else to a network storage device.

Maybe there will be an aftermarket PCIe storage solution with the expansion slots.
 
I was really looking forward to this. My old 2008 Mac Pro really needed upgrading.

Unfortunately though, storage and power are important to me. Having SSD only is going to have to be a no from me.

If they’d just gone back to the old design, allowed for a mixture of SSD and HDD, I’d have pounced on this and bought it.

So it looks like I’ll be upgrading with a second hand 2012 Mac Pro for now, and hoping that Apple try to inject some function back into their Pro lines. Thunderbolt is hopeless for storage.

Aren’t hard drives sort of like cassette decks at this point? Time to move on?
 
I don’t understand. What does Pages and Keynote have to do with anything? We’re talking about moving on from old hard drives to vastly higher performance SSD here.


Well thank you for your input. When I need your advice on how I use my machines, I’ll be sure to look you up.

In the meantime, you stick with your knitting and mind your own.
 
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