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Hmm, the photography bundle being $9.99 permanently makes it actually interesting. I already own CS5 and bought Lightroom 5 outright though...so still not quite enticing enough. The main reason I would upgrade is for retina display support at this point.

Wow, that is a good price, for some reason I thought it was for the first year only!
 
They've gone to a strictly you keep paying regardless of whether we keep updating model.

And I'm fine with the subscription model. That's not what I asked.

It just seems weird to call something "2014 Release" if they plan on having other updates later this year.

"2014 Release B" doesn't sound too good... which is why I asked if they are moving to only one update per year.

Premiere Pro had 3 updates in 2013... for instance.
 
And I'm fine with the subscription model. That's not what I asked.

It just seems weird to call something "2014 Release" if they plan on having other updates later this year.

"2014 Release B" doesn't sound too good... which is why I asked if they are moving to only one update per year.

Premiere Pro had 3 updates in 2013... for instance.

You're fine with the subscription model but you seem to be struggling with what that means in terms of updates. There is no regular schedule for updates anymore. You'll get them when they are ready and when Adobe is ready to release them. Last year you may have got three updates, this year you may only get one major update, next year you may get none.
 
And I'm fine with the subscription model. That's not what I asked.

It just seems weird to call something "2014 Release" if they plan on having other updates later this year.

"2014 Release B" doesn't sound too good... which is why I asked if they are moving to only one update per year.

Premiere Pro had 3 updates in 2013... for instance.

That sounds like they're doing a superset/subset release schedule, sorta like what Autodesk does with Max and Maya. Each year will see a set of major features added, and the updates from that point on until the next update will probably just be bug fixes and performance tweaks.

And because people are always worried about compatibility with older plugins and whatnot, they'll probably keep each yearly update available on the CC as Photoshop CC, Photoshop CC 2014, Photoshop CC 2015, and so on and so on.

Seems pretty alright to me. It addresses some of the big issues I've heard people mention about the service.
 
You're fine with the subscription model but you seem to be struggling with what that means in terms of updates. There is no regular schedule for updates anymore. You'll get them when they are ready and when Adobe is ready to release them. Last year you may have got three updates, this year you may only get one major update, next year you may get none.

Yes... I know there is no regular schedule for updates anymore... updates come when they are ready.

But it seems like they are confident there will be no more updates this year since they stamped it "2014 Release"

It's only June...

I'm not complaining... I was just wondering. Next topic.

To anyone who is curious... today's updates are new versions. They are installed alongside your previous versions.

Premiere Pro CC 2014 is version 8.0

The previous CC version was 7.2
 
I'm worried that they are calling this update "2014"

Are they going to a strict yearly release model?

No. They just added the year to make it easier to differentiate between major versions. Feature updates can still come at any time.


I see:

Photoshop CC
Photoshop CC 2014
After Effects CC
After Effects CC 2014

Is anyone else noticing this?

Adobe stated that they'll keep at least the past 5 major versions of all their apps available to CC subscribers so right now users have access to CS6, CC (2013) and CC 2014.
 
Forever may Lightroom remain NOT part of a CC subscription. Lightroom should be tailored to be a stand alone piece of software (as it is now) and not force a subscription model down the throats of users. I want to pay one time for the software I use, I have no use for Photoshop.

Although, having said that I would very much like to see Lightroom gain HDR and Photomerge (panoramic) functions as I feel these are the two Photoshop functions which photographers would want to use most and as such should form part of the features in Lightroom. Lightroom should cater to all of your photography needs and I think that includes being able to stitch together HDRs and panoramic images.
 
No. They just added the year to make it easier to differentiate between major versions. Feature updates can still come at any time.

Adobe stated that they'll keep at least the past 5 major versions of all their apps available to CC subscribers so right now users have access to CS6, CC (2013) and CC 2014.

Gotcha.

I've been a CC subscriber since late 2012... so I've seen the transition from CS6 to CC.

It kinda caught me off-guard with the year thrown in there... since they've never done that before.

But it makes sense.
 
Bah, humbug.

There are only two things I want Adobe to do with CS:

1) Allow purchase without subscription. I'm not interested in paying daily, weekly, monthly or yearly. I just want to buy the software and use it. A subscription model means that when the subscription lapses I lose access to my work. Not cool. Totally and completely unacceptable.

2) Read/Write of all past file formats for Photoshop and Illustrator. This ensures compatibility.
 
Paying $50/mo to make a comfortable living wage is a great deal from where I'm sitting. Are all they complainers hobbyists who don't make money from their work using Adobe apps?
 
Not sure if you read my earlier post here...

Forever may Lightroom remain NOT part of a CC subscription. Lightroom should be tailored to be a stand alone piece of software (as it is now)....

Not sure if you read my earlier post here but the LR version that's a part of the PS CC package is getting updates that the standalone LR version isn't. The LR mobile apps run only with the PS CC version of LR.

Since then, I've sold my Adobe Fanboy sweater on eBay.
 
I am a hobbyist that is OK with the Adobe CC subscription model. I get the latest version for a fee every month, and if I don't like to pay anymore, I can just choose to stop. Live with it...

My question, which I can't find answered anywhere; after the installation of the 2014 versions, can I safely uninstall the original CC version? And if so, using the uninstaller in the Application/Utilities/Adobe Installers folder, or the uninstallers in every application's folder?

Right now the Adobe forums are completely shut down, and I just can't be bothered trying to get a straight answer out of the numb-wits in their support chat - they surely are a waste of space...
 

I'm about to find out myself.

I'm assuming it'll be like having, say, CS3 and 4 side by side on the same machine. They don't share any required files or important libraries between each other, so you should be able to install one and delete the other without any problem.

The only thing that might be shared would be personal preference settings, but chances are good those'll be squirreled away outside the main application folder.

I've got it extracting now, so I'll have an answer for you in about 10 minutes or so (also keep in mind I'm currently on Windows, so things will be slightly different between you and I).
 
While I can afford to pay Adobe every month, I am not going to.

I hear your gripe, but it's been like . . . . . 3 years. It's actually quite a nice service, one of the better paid subscription services for software. I was paying the $10 a month for Office 365 but gave that up.

The updates to this software a actually very substantial. Much better than what MOST of the developer industry gives. Avid and Apple, just to name two, usually only give you 4 or 5 "REAL" features and updates per app.

This set is like 7 or 8 per app in the suite from what I can tell so far (via the 10 updates available badge I have).

how is it ill conceived?
they made it more affordable to have the newest version

Agreed! Much much cheaper than it's ever been. While I may not use Edge now, I know I will need to in the future, or I at least have the ability to learn it.
 
Snip for attention

It's just what I thought. PS CC 2014 is considered version 15, the original CC is 14. They're entirely separate products.

I installed it first before removing anything, and the first thing it did was ask me if I wanted to import any of my presets from the previous version. I hit yeah, waited a second, shut it down, then went and uninstalled my original copy. The newest version still works just fine.
 
Adobe really needs to take a "post-it" note from Apple. Their website was down this morning for hours. (First just the login system, then the whole site went offline). Obviously bringing down the Apple store for 5 hours is really a necessity.
</sarcasm>

I'd be shot if I brought down one of my customers' ecommerce platforms this long.

Good thing I have a minimal level of patience and didn't need my account info right away.
 
I'm sorry but their "$19.99" deal for students is knuckle headed... its "$19.99" a month for the first year then renewed at "$29.99" a month. Really gonna encourage student customers to go legit with a pricing scheme like that.

Smart would be taking the AutoDesk model and just give this stuff out for free to students...
 
Adobe has also announced plans to make its $9.99/month Photography bundle, with access to Photoshop CC and Lightroom 5, permanent and available to all users, and the company is debuting expanded offerings for education and enterprise.

Create a cheap bundle like this for the video products too--that would make me happy. $19.98 (Photo + Video) a month vs. $49.99. I feel really sorry for the businesses that put out the $79.99 per month for the "business class" license that simple adds minor management to the accounts, AFAICT.
 
Should be pretty soon. As I understand it, they're trying to roll out everything ahead of an event they're hosting in NYC.
Maybe it'll be like the CS4(?) rollout where the power went out for 40 minutes out of the two hour total.
 
Don't they already do that? Unless you're using features specific to later versions of the software, all Adobe file formats are fairly compatible with each other. I've opened up files as far back as CS2 in CC, and vice versa.
Not InDesign, it's a cranky little monkey.
 
The main thing on my wish list has been fixed!

My biggest complaint has been that Dreamweaver forces my MBP to switch to the discrete GPU, even with no windows open. Pretty sure that was because the CC interface for all apps all ran on Flash/Flex, and now that it's been replaced finally with an HTML5 version, Dreamweaver seems to run on integrated graphics! Hooray!

As it is now, I always close all my CC apps when I'm not actively working on a doc in order to save battery life.

I haven't tried any other apps yet, so not sure if this is across the board or not. I would expect any graphics-intensive apps like Photoshop would trigger the discrete GPU, but *hopefully* only when actively working on a document.
 
My biggest complaint has been that Dreamweaver forces my MBP to switch to the discrete GPU, even with no windows open.

I spoke too soon. I just quit and relaunched it, and it kicked the Radeon into use before I even did anything. Also, just noticed Photoshop and Illustrator CC (2013) are open, and if I quit DW CC2014, it switches back to Intel graphics! WTF Adobe.
 
how is it ill conceived?
they made it more affordable to have the newest version

Depends on what you use. To me it is now 3x more expensive than it was before. I alway bought the Design Standard collection, since I don't need more than Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign and Acrobat from Adobe. That used to cost about € 500,- every 2 years to upgrade. Now that costs € 700,- every year!

I think Adobe should offer more different bundles like they did before. I would never even download Flash, Dreamweaver, Encore, etc... I would never use their iPad Apps since I don't even have an iPad. I would never use their cloud storage since I don't like my files sitting on their server. I wouldn't buy a Mercedes when a Honda is enough.

One day I'll have to upgrade anyway, but for now I don't see anything that my copy of CS6 can't do.
 
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