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Adobe Announces Discontinuation of 'Muse' Website Building Software

Yet another crap Adobe dumped on its users. Muse sounded like a good Dreamweaver substitute.

I may have to learn Spark for coursework, but I will not use it for anything but school.

I truly hope that Serif’s software makes inroads in imagery and design so more companies move away from Adobe.

Thanks to everyone who is posting alternative options.
 
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There's a lot of web-based alternatives, but that is not what I'm looking for. I used Muse as a standalone app and generated code/files to be uploaded by end user to server of their choice. Really looking like I'll have to get back into Dreamweaver or something similar. The Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign style layout options where you click & drag elements where you want them is lacking in almost all of the web-based alternatives. Poor decision to kill this software without a viable alternative available, even if it were in beta. Spark and XD are not solutions.
 
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SOLLERBOY said:
Great :( Now I am going to have to pay someone like square space a shed load of money and have a generic cookie cutter website. I really enjoy using muse. Are they at least going to make it free?
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if they dont support it any more dont use it because it will not get updates so it will be prone to hacking in the future
 
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Adobe today announced that it is discontinuing its website building software "Adobe Muse" for Mac and PC. The shutdown process begins today with the final feature release of Muse, although technical support for Creative Cloud customers will remain ongoing through May 20, 2019. After that date, Adobe will officially end new feature development for the software.

Adobe Muse launched in 2012, offering users the ability to design websites without having to write any code. Adobe said that while it has been "deeply committed to the Muse vision," trends in recent years have caused the company to evolve its strategies related to website creation.

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Now, Adobe is thanking Muse users while hoping a "smooth transition" can be made into other Adobe programs that will be sticking around:
Adobe explained that users will still be able to open Muse on their Mac or Windows computers, as well as edit or create new websites in the app. But, after May 20, 2019, there will no longer be any compatibility updates or fixes to bugs that could appear when users publish a Muse-created website.

For more details about the Adobe Muse discontinuation, be sure to visit the company's FAQ page on the topic.

Article Link: Adobe Announces Discontinuation of 'Muse' Website Building Software
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[doublepost=1522094087][/doublepost]This sucks ass. Muse is a fantastic program. What the hell is wrong with Adobe? What am I paying for – more useless Photoshop updates?
 
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Strider64 said:
I also cringe when a client says to me "Well, I can simply do the website if you won't accept this price for doing the website". I have to keep my temper and smile
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I actually like it when people tell me this. I prefer to work with people who've tried to do the work themselves and have an understanding that's it's not just slapping a bunch of polygons on a page and adding a few pretty colors. I rarely take clients that small anymore, but when I did, I sometimes used to tell them to try a DIY builder first and only come back if they weren't successful.

I've often heard "Well, I can't compete with free" from Web Developers. True, but you can use free to help you weed out people who weren't going to be reliable long term customers anyway.
 
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iZac said:
*sigh* I wanted Indesign for the web and it basically delivered that. What other WISIWIG desktop publishing type program should I move to now?
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Switch over to WordPress.org or WordPress.com

The second (.com) is excellent if you just want to put up web sites and not fiddle with the system too much. It is hosted on the WordPress.com servers. Excellent entry level.

The first (.org) lets you control everything yourself and you can host it on your own servers, rented shared or dedicated servers, etc. Total DIY power. Uses PHP, MYSQL, etc. Wide support base.

Both options are very powerful and easy to use. Wow, both in one.

Even better is that there is an ENORMOUS community behind WordPress of developers, volunteers and other users. Wordpress 30% of the web.

lunarworks said:
The DIY web is long gone, sadly.
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Not at all true. See above.
 
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Another piece of Adobe application roadkill, though well-earned in this case.

I had high hopes for Muse early on. And, to be fair, it was quite good to scrub though simple design bits quickly.

But the overall implementation was awful, not unlike snipping myriad bits of content and hurriedly positioning them before the rubber cement dries. Sure, you could put elements wherever you wanted, but pray you never needed to change your mind.

Things didn't get much better over time; it took Adobe seemingly forever to add in responsive design features.

The HTML output was a contorted nightmare, making it virtually impossible to integrate with other website environments (oh how I tried).

If anything good is going to come out of this, it will make room for Adobe to start over (again).
 
nutmac said:
Adobe XD is probably what Adobe wants you to use instead, which is a lot more powerful but a bit more complicated.
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But there's a whole point that's being overlooked here, XD (a copy of Sketch) is only for handing of high fidelity screens to devs to code. You can have transitions etc., but only in prototyping ode, it doesn't give you a live website by itself.
 
For everyone that actually liked Muse, I would say try out Blocs. It's better.
 
nutmac said:
It doesn't appear to be the case.

Adobe XD is probably what Adobe wants you to use instead, which is a lot more powerful but a bit more complicated.
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I love XD, use it few times a week professionally. However it’s for design mock-up and not developing usable code, so I fail to see how it covers the needs of someone using Muse.
 
I didn't even use Muse, but Adobe has ticked me off with this news. I was just going to start playing around with it for a site I'm currently designing. Grrrrrr... I've seen this behavior from them for decades.

The lesson is, if the Adobe app isn't named one of the following, you really shouldn't waste your time with it because they WILL kill it sooner or later:
  • Photoshop
  • InDesign
  • Acrobat
  • Illustrator
  • Premier
  • After Effects
Yes, I left Dreamweaver off that list on purpose - it's dead, it's just going to take a while to before you smell the corpse.

Serif can't release Affinity Publisher soon enough. Once I get a VIABLE (no, Quark is not viable) replacement for the Adobe Suite of print apps, I'm making a serious effort to boot Adobe out of my Applications folder.
 
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It doesn't appear to be the case.

Adobe XD is probably what Adobe wants you to use instead, which is a lot more powerful but a bit more complicated.
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stainless said:
Oh, you put stock in Adobe... the company that shutdown;

1. GoLive Systems (CyberStudio)
2. Macromedia software after they bought them out;
  • Macromedia Action!
  • Macromedia Aftershock
  • Macromedia Authorware
  • Macromedia Central (replaced by AIR)
  • Macromedia FreeHand
  • Macromedia HomeSite
  • Macromedia MediaMaker
  • Macromedia SoundEdit 16
The very company that has added just minor features to photo editing software, nearly zero features to their illustrator software, no major updates to video or post, publishing haha they will be closing down InDesign within the next 5 years... yet wants to charge you $600 PER YEAR to maintain usage of their software. You're surprised!? Seriously??

However, for $469 you can FOREVER OWN CorelDraw (granted it's windows only) or as a PhotoChop replacement purchase Pixelmator Pro, Affinity Photo, Acor, GIMP for under $75 and forever own them!

This is also why people, companies and design firms support WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, Magento, etc... so that some company can't turn around and pull the carpet from underneath them and say, "haha, sucker! We got your money, all these years and now you have NOTHING! Oh but here, a replacement that doesn't actually work as a replacement but it's yours to use, so long as you continue paying us."

You could have purchased and owned the software and your "system" so you would payout $5,000 all in for computers, software, etc but could to this very day, use the same setup for publishing... No no no, let's pay Adobe $600/year for less privilege of using software they don't do any major updates or create any major new software, but have ZERO issues on pulling the carpet from underneath you.

This isn't the first or the last time that Adobe will be doing this! So anyone invested in their "cloud" software be forewarned... Your favorite software could be next!
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Candykane75 said:
if they dont support it any more dont use it because it will not get updates so it will be prone to hacking in the future
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At least I'm not subscribed to full CC so I'm not losing out. I only sub to the Photography plan right now but will get out of that when my subscription ends in July I think.


So annoying though, I've been using Muse since it was in beta in 2011 and have got good at it and have spent many hours pulling my hair out troubleshooting all sorts of stuff. I really liked the freedom it offers though.

Thanks to the guy who suggested web flow, looks better than squarespace etc. I will give it a shot.

Edit: got burned when they discontinued director as well. I also tried installing my boxed copies of CS4 and 5 a few months ago that wouldn't work either.
 
MacGizmo said:
Serif can't release Affinity Publisher soon enough. Once I get a VIABLE (no, Quark is not viable) replacement for the Adobe Suite of print apps, I'm making a serious effort to boot Adobe out of my Applications folder.
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Until there is a legit alternative to After Effects for my work, I'll be stuck with Adobe for a lot of video work. Motion is not an alternative. Fusion works for some work, but will not work for everything.

Got into Muse last year. The workflow made it easy to get basic websites up and running for projects. As a designer, these sites were very layout based with content, delivering information. They could have been designed with layout in Photoshop or Illustrator if absolutely necessary, but without a way to link or auto-generate basic code, they are not an option either. XD is not for websites. Spark is not a standalone desktop app that works for this either. Unless InDesign is getting website layout functionality in a future release, this leaves no alternatives except Dreamweaver...

Is Affinity Publisher going to support website layouts, or is it really just an InDesign (or original Quark) style replacement?
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ETN3 said:
Here is your future after Muse:

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It's not a replacement for Muse.
Will it work for many people? Yes.
Is it a standalone application that lets me actually work offline and generate HTML & files that end users can upload via FTP? No.

It's a web-based website tool. That is not what I'm looking for, and have a feeling a lot of Muse users do not want that either. If they did, the tease of Spark getting new features may be another alternative.
 
TMRJIJ said:
Try Blocs.
http://blocsapp.com/
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CoffeeCup Site Designer is a good visual app alternative. https://www.coffeecup.com/designer/
[doublepost=1522163247][/doublepost]I'm a big CoffeeCup Site Designer advocate because they still offer desktop apps without subscription. The app uses the foundation and bootstrap frameworks and provides all visual css style controls. I'm not a coder at all nor am I good with CSS but have been able to learn using their code-free system and produce some cool professional stuff. Clean code too which makes my clients happy. :)

They are developing tools for CSS Grid too for more experienced designers. https://cssgrid.cc
 
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