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A related whine.

Apple, they the ******* does iTunes take so long to "register" a new software release? Why do we constantly have to use links from websites to directly go to the new app page instead of just being able to find it in your search?

iTunes (the software and the store) keep getting worse and worse. Now, numerous TV series that were available suddenly disappear. Add to that the increasing number of iTunes software bugs (why can't iTunes correctly count how much space is actually on my iPhone and iPad? How many iTunes versions are you going to let that bug go unfixed?) and the Apple experience is becoming terrible. Maybe if Apple spent as much time on their software as they did with their hardware, they truly would live up to the moniker "it just works". Because, right now, too much of it doesn't "just work".
 
Pro software is no longer Apple's bread and butter. Accept it.

Excellent post - please pardon my only using a snippet.

One question - I can't think of a time when pro software was Apple's "bread and butter." Are you thinking of a specific timeframe when Apple derived a substantial percentage of its revenue from pro software?
 
Meanwhile

Meanwhile, us Aperture users still waiting for distortion correction and real shadow/highlight control.

Can't believe I have waited around this long, this may be the week that I actually commit to learning LR and fully transition :(
 
Losing ten dollars is not getting screwed. Unless you are four.

Ok, I get it, you're an Adobe fanboy. Their average age is about two, last I heard.

My point (and this is something only people aged three and above will get) is that Adobe's Photoshop for iPad app is nowhere near the level of quality of other iPad apps out there, and there can be no excuse for that.
 
I'm not sure apple will come up with a workable alternative:
- they messed up iPhoto for Mac with a heavy skeuomorphism focused GUI while basic functions to group, manage and edit photos require more work. The app crashes a lot and is unresponsive. Photo streams are not synced in the background when the app is not running. And sharing libraries is gone too.
- iPhoto for iOS does not sync albums and photo edits seamlessly with iCloud or Mac. You have to deal with exports and streams.
- the whole photo stream paradigm is broken. You get copies of photos that are synced, but not all of them because there are quota, the originals remain in your camera roll, ... For instance: take a picture on iOS and you want to delete it? Hurry because once it syncs you have to delete it in two places on your device: the camera roll and the photo stream.
- aperture: is it still alive?

It's all just a big mess. Hopefully they come up with something that allows you to edit and organize your photos on your iOS device and seamlessly sync those as albums to iPhoto or aperture. It sounds so trivial, but today it's impossible unless you have way too much time on your hands.

Yep. Apple's photo solutions are just a big mess. Everything is disjointed and DOES NOT work together.

Why is it when I create an album on an iOS device, it doesn't sync back to iPhoto/Aperture?

Why can't the Camera Roll just be the Photostream? I hate having to delete things from 2 locations (from the Camera Roll, then again from Photostream).

iPhoto on iOS looks ridiculous and child like.

But I got over it. I no longer use iPhoto or Photostream. It's easier to just stick to my folder based system in Google Drive and view photos from there.

I like that what I do for Lightroom on iPad syncs back to my catalog on my Mac. Apple should take note and stop being lazy.
 
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Piracy is just an excuse for putting up prices.

Agreed 100 percent. I don't condone piracy, but the whole "we have to raise prices because of piracy" thing is just a smokescreen for greed. If anything, piracy should force prices to go LOWER so that people will be motivated to buy legally and not pirate software. Software companies just don't get the idea of low cost/more volume being more effective than high price/low volume.
 
Agreed 100 percent. I don't condone piracy, but the whole "we have to raise prices because of piracy" thing is just a smokescreen for greed. If anything, piracy should force prices to go LOWER so that people will be motivated to buy legally and not pirate software. Software companies just don't get the idea of low cost/more volume being more effective than high price/low volume.

I'm so pleased another person on this planet can actually see through the corporate BS... :)
 
I already own Lr5, I'm sure as hell not buying an extra Creative Cloud subscription in order to get Lr for iPad.

I think I need a Lr replacement. Too bad Apple has all but abandoned Aperture...

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Exactly. This is ridiculous that a "mini" version of the all-in-one software requires the whole bloody Creative pile of hundreds of dollars of software. That's the reason some of us have LR, we don't have reason to buy CC. Greedy company, really getting tired of Adobe.
 
Cool. But who really needs to do this?

Many of you that question the need for LR on an iPad simply don't value or understand the use cases for the software. And that's OK. There are thousands of software packages that are absolutely mandatory for people to get their jobs done that others would never have any reason to use. I have several points/clarifications:

1) LR is not just for editing. So for those of you questioning "Why/how/who would edit on an iPad without a mouse, the colors aren't the same, etc.", forget that line of thinking. LR is a database program as much as a photo program. Many people will value the ability to simply use the iPad version of LR to make initial reviews of their photos, eliminating poor shots, tagging others to consider, etc. Before the iPad version, you'd have to do so tied to your main computer/laptop. This is hugely efficient.

2) LR is generally speaking for pros and fairly serious amateurs/hobbyists. LR is not a direct competitor to iPhoto (although they both do some of the same things, LR is the Ferrari to iPhoto's Honda Accord). Again, if you don't have use for LR, you may not be able to appreciate the benefits of the mobile solution.

3) The subscription cost model is not a ripoff (yes, I will admit that this statement is subjective). LR, and the other components of the suite, are absolutely mandatory for a professional. In no way differently than gasoline is necessary to a truck driver. If you don't see the need/value/use, you very likely do not need this software at any cost, be it $0.99 or $10/mo. Don't sweat it, we all don't need every piece of software out there.

4) The target audience for LR/Creative Suite vs. Office 365 is absolutely not the same. Of course there is overlap. However, the Office audience is magnitudes larger than the photo suite audience. Further, the Office user base is much more variable, ranging from students to home users to secretaries to managers to executives and everyone in between. LC/Creative Suite is used by pros and serious amateurs/hobbyists. To compare the subscription costs baseless.

I hope that this helps, particularly those that immediately dismiss LR as being useless on an iPad and/or too costly. Step back and understand the market 1st.

Thanks.
 
Different demographics. If I were to be extreme, I'd say that the Lightroom people accept that their photography is either a business or an expensive hobby, and have already paid thousands for cameras, calibrated monitors, lenses, studios and models. Office users on the other hand, are people who are used to either getting Office free with their computer, or on a hand labelled CD-R from someone at work/school, and think the ability to type a document or create spreadsheet is a fundamental human right.

That somehow makes sense. I often see that kind of people you mention... but that people they also used to have a CDR with photoshop. Actually there are so many of these that the main complaint against Surface RT was "but, but it can't run photoshop!". It would seem that 90% of the world population were profesional artists... :D
 
I did not follow it closely, although I am aware of it.
That makes the somehow positive reception of the iPad version more strange. Or maybe people just got tired of wasting time posting about how much they hate it (At the same time, it seems people is never tired of trashing Microsoft, hehe :p).
I would put the bashing vs support for both of these subscriptions at about the same. I'd almost go so far as to say you are ignoring the support M$ received and ignoring the bashing going on here.

Frankly, the Office subscription is far more useful IMO. It is cheaper and offers the whole Office shebang to everybody. Adobe is nickel and diming people, forcing people's hands to either spend way more than they are used to (not talking about photog pros), or skipping it for other companies' solutions. I paid for LR standalone because it covers both of my SLRs, which Aperture and most other apps do not. But it seems as though that will be my last purchase with the direction they are taking. Hopefully it will work for a long time.
 
Umm...the bottom of the article said that it would be a free download but requires CC to work.

Yet another way for Adobe to suck customers' money.

Haha, started reading and though immediately yearly/ monthly subscription etc.

When will manufacturers get that normal consumers are already up to their necks in monthly charges?
 
My Adobe subscription keeps getting better and better. Adding and improving features and options as it goes on. Unlike Apple, who still hasn't improved Photostream or iTunes Match.
 
CC another money grabbing scheme that alienates anyone wanting to enter into part of the suite or for occasional users.

Long term it's killing adobe, take all your shares and run people!
 
If you've been at this a while and add up Lightroom or Photoshop costs over time, or for that matter Aperture or iLife, you'll see that it isn't necessarily that much more expensive for the subscription.

But what irks me is that they lump together stuff I don't need, just like Comcast. The storage is sorta like the obscure basic cable channels, or Apple's iCloud. I would prefer not to pay for that when there are better alternatives. But at least it may have more legs than Mobile Me....

Rob
 
didn't anyone else notice...

While watching the video I couldn't help but this how corny the background music was. ;)
 
...and the Aperture 4 people are still waiting on their updates.

It's dead - industry irrelevant - never to return. It'll just become iPhoto. That was obvious when they made the libraries interchangeable.

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CC another money grabbing scheme that alienates anyone wanting to enter into part of the suite or for occasional users.

Long term it's killing adobe, take all your shares and run people!

At least a CC membership keep adding value every few months. Office 365 is just a joke.
 
Yet another way for Adobe to suck customers' money.

They're already sucking the people's money, this is a bonus for those already paying it.

I don't expect people to download this and then pay the subscription fee specifically for this app. Although (for some) this might be the option that finally gets them to subscribe.

Gary
 
Seriously. This incentivized me to buy Adobe's Photography bundle with Photoshop + Lightroom for $9.99/month. Haven't decided if I'm going to switch from Aperture entirely, but quite possible since the mobile app is really nice.

FYI, Apple has completely abandoned Aperture. I can never buy in to Apple productivity software b/c they let things languish for many years. Then when they bring it back (Final Cut X), it's a big mess with no direction or backward compatibility.

Not customer friendly.
 
I have to admit, I really REALLY like the idea of a touch based lightroom.

Use it on my desktop. It uses a butload of resources though when I have 20+ RAW images in collection.

I couldn't imagine the type of load on the iPad.

If the lightroom app though on the ipad supports RAW image types for local content (I refuse to use adobe's creative cloud)

It could be enough to convince me to finally get the iPad air.
 
Loving it so far

This is great for a photographer. My daughter is a dancer and there are times I have to sit and wait for her for hours in Philly. Now I can edit without taking my Macbook.

I just spent 45 minutes editing while waiting for an event at her school. That's 45 minutes of editing done and more time with the family later, worth every bit of the $9.95 a month for the cloud.

I am liking this so much that I wish they had a 12" iPad that I could use it on. Still lacking features but have high hopes for the future with this.
 
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