Adobe Audition for Mac Confirmed, Beta Release in Late 2010

[milo]

This is a major point for audio apps - will Audition have a 64 bit version? Looking at the PC version, I'm a little concerned since Audition 3 was released all the way back in late 2007 - I have to wonder how much effort they're putting into ongoing development.

I've grown tired of ongoing issues with Peak and may upgrade Logic Express to just get SoundTrack Pro.

I assume you mean upgrade from Logic express? The full version of Logic is great, but I definitely would NOT upgrade just to get STP. It is extremely buggy. I have reported a number of bugs and had them confirmed but yet no bugfix release. It sometimes puts in audio glitches at the beginning or end of files, and fades don't always work properly. Usable for some basic/casual stuff, but I don't consider it a real option for serious work. Sad because it's a nice interface and would be a very nice app with some updates, but that potential is totally thrown away, one of the least reliable apps from Apple I've ever used.

I hate to say it, but if you need something soon the best option may be running a windows app on your mac.

And I wish I could be as enthusiastic about Sound Forge as I used to be, but I'm not crazy about the last couple versions. It hasn't improved much for paid upgrades, and generally it seems like Sony hasn't handled development as well as the previous owners.

Edit: Looks like Adobe has already said it won't be 64 bit. That's a major stumbling block for audio apps, hope they get a clue and change their mind about that before release. It seems insane to release a brand new mac app these days that's 32 bit.

 

[ThunderSkunk]

Awesome! Cooledit lives!

Now I can revisit all my early projects from 10 years ago. This is gonna be fun.

Now we just need Audition Lite for ipad, to work on the go.


Weird narrator. Like a cros between a used car salesman and an auctioneer.

 

[oYx]

And I wish I could be as enthusiastic about Sound Forge as I used to be, but I'm not crazy about the last couple versions. It hasn't improved much for paid upgrades, and generally it seems like Sony hasn't handled development as well as the previous owners.

Agreed. Since version 6 or 7, there hasn't been much new that really matter.

 

[pittmantechno]

What in the World

Ahem...ProTools anyone?

Ya.... I'm wondering the same -- Pro Tools ? and if it's such a Great alternative to Bias Peak can just use Peak ? I actually like the company Bias " adobe has never impressed me on that level " or better yet... is it cool if I just stick Abelton Live 8 and Pro tools -- More reinventing of the Wheel from adobe huh -

This will feed my " show as many adobe users as i can the free alternative " Fire though hahaha ---- like um Gimp and um Audacity - and um ....

I think what adobe is doing is similar to rape - they wont be getting my money unless the crap is unquestionably better then the competition and much less $$ .. So when they are able to hit those notes - I will begin to forgive their ruthlessly ignorant and lazy track record =)

 

[MrCrowbar]

Sign me up!

Cool Edit Pro was and is the fastest and most powerful WAV editor out there. I like Logic and Pro Tools too but they're both clearly made for arranging and recording. If there's any restoration, noise removal, quick mastering or anything else, the average DAW is just a pain in the arse. In Cool Edit (aka Audition), it's just clickety click and you're done. Easy on the hardware and reliable too.

 

[HLdan]

That was the case years ago, but I'd really disagree today. Audition, Sound Forge, FL Studio, Sonar for a start. Plus the windows side has been years ahead when it comes to 64 bit audio apps and plugins, on the mac there are still just one or two host apps in 64 bit and far fewer plugins.

And maybe in actual recording studios there might still be more macs, but there are tons of composers running on PC. Even mac users often use PCs as secondary slave machines. I don't know if there are any numbers available, but I'd bet that there are more pro audio users running PC than mac these days. Really the only reason to do it on mac is probably if you specifically want to use Logic or DP.

That's in your fantasy world. MIGHT be more Macs in recording studios??? NO. ARE, Period. Just like PC's have the business world, Macs have the music recording industry world, bar none and it just isn't a place you will find serious musicians using Windows machines. In my area there are 2 major stores that sell only recording equipment and the only computers they have set up are Macs, which they also sell. Not a PC in the place except for the cash registers.

 

[HLdan]

Oh I know it mac has definitely had an edge in the recording industry but, it's still nice to see more software coming over. The biggest thing though is the fact that some major gaming developers have come over to the mac platform. I think that we'll start seeing a lot more mac products.

I always welcome any new software for Mac that was Windows Only in the past but my complaint is Adobe not doing this a long time ago. Seems to me that they've suddenly seen how power Apple has and how much people are flocking to their platforms and now Adobe is struggling to protecting themselves of failure so they now start doing more for Apple's products. Adobe Audition is welcome, but IMO, it was just done in desperation.

 

[mattmarks]

Seeing that I am an audio production student, I decided to finally reply to a macrumors topic. This one being the best fit.

The fact of the matter is that ProTools is the industry standard. You will not find a recording studio, post house, or any studio in the industry that is not using it. For those who say it is recording format only - you are totally wrong. Some of the greatest soundtracks have been mixed in ProTools. Skywalker Sound, Disney, Todd-AO - all these studios take advantage of PT DAWs. And that's just the movie industry.

Recording only - false. Not enough plugins - False. Look at Waves.

 

[milo]

Ya.... I'm wondering the same -- Pro Tools ?

What about pro tools? PT requires digi hardware, it doesn't do destructive audio file editing, and the version that's in the same price range as Audition is missing many features. I don't believe it has any noise reduction either. PT is a great app, but it doesn't seem to have nearly the functionality for the price.

Peak is a decent app as well, but again, it seems to be lacking things that Audition has.

they wont be getting my money unless the crap is unquestionably better then the competition and much less $$

Did you actually compare features to Pro Tools for the price? Seems like your reaction is less rational and more knee-jerk hating the company.

 

[milo]

That's in your fantasy world. MIGHT be more Macs in recording studios??? NO. ARE, Period. Just like PC's have the business world, Macs have the music recording industry world, bar none and it just isn't a place you will find serious musicians using Windows machines. In my area there are 2 major stores that sell only recording equipment and the only computers they have set up are Macs, which they also sell. Not a PC in the place except for the cash registers.

Fantasy world? That's an odd statement considering I've used macs over PCs my whole life.

As I said, in the segment of audio professionals that is "recording studios" (a shrinking part of the business), it's possible that macs are still dominant. If you are so knowledgeable that so many pro studios are mac only, I'd love to hear a list of ones that you know only use macs. I'm also dying to know what specifically you do in the recording industry.

But if you read the rest of my post I was talking about all the other audio professionals of the world. Composers, audio post guys, video game developers, DVD authoring, etc. Facilities that would fit the definition of "recording studio" are a tiny fraction of today's "music and recording industry" as you vaguely put it.

The fact is that there definitely are widely used audio apps that are windows only (a point you ignored). And still calling mac the preferred platform overall for audio professionals seems like a stretch, especially with no facts to back it up. Sorry, but using two stores by your house as evidence of what the audio industry uses doesn't carry much weight.

The fact of the matter is that ProTools is the industry standard. You will not find a recording studio, post house, or any studio in the industry that is not using it. For those who say it is recording format only - you are totally wrong. Some of the greatest soundtracks have been mixed in ProTools. Skywalker Sound, Disney, Todd-AO - all these studios take advantage of PT DAWs. And that's just the movie industry.

Recording only - false. Not enough plugins - False. Look at Waves.

Who said it didn't have enough plugins? Or that it was recording only and not mixing?

There's no question that it has been the industry standard, especially on the highest end. But at this point I'd argue that it's mainly the industry standard because it has been the industry standard in the past and achieved a big enough market share (sort of the Microsoft Word of audio apps). And while most recording studios probably still use it (saying that all do seems like a gross overstatement), many facilities use other apps as well and some probably use other apps more than PT (especially for work that is heavier on midi than live tracks). PT is the best choice in some situations. But there are other cases where studios have PT just so they can say they have it - it's the biggest brand name in audio software. And especially in situations where people are recording their own material, having PT is increasingly less appealing.

PT is a great app. There are some features I'd kill to have in Logic, and audio recording is very simple and straightforward. It's just expensive for what you get, and it's limiting to be forced to buy their hardware. For any professional user who doesn't need the "standard" of being able to interchange session files, there are other options that have more functionality for the price.

 

[studiomusic]

Cool Edit (sorry, sorry, "Audition") and FL Studio are basically the only reasons I keep a Windows partition. I'm just more used to Audition's interface than anything else out there, know how to do more tricks with it, etc.

Same here. Audition is, er, was, the only reason I had to have a PC at work. Now I can get the Mac Pro from upstairs... when Audition for Mac comes out.
Sweeeeeet.

Ahem...ProTools anyone?

Protools is alive and well! I use an HD2/192/DigiPre in my home studio with a Mac Pro. Work just can't afford a full blown Protools system.

 

[wonderspark]

This is exactly what I've needed since the switch to Mac. If you prefer Pro Tools, throw your money at it and enjoy. I prefer Audition / Cool Edit Pro, and I'll be throwing (less of) my money at it as soon as it's available.

 

[milo]

Here's a specific comparison. Sure, $399 may seem expensive for Audition. But it includes surround sound panning.

How much does surround cost with PT? You can get PTLE with hardware for probably $300-500. But the basic software doesn't include surround, it's an extra add on software package. How much? Two thousand dollars. Surround is included with PTHD, but that's even more.

 

[nickweston]

Ignorance

to compare it against a piece of junk like Garageband shows total ignorance of the application.

No, ignorance is calling Garageband a piece of junk. It has it's place. I'm a professional music producer who does music for records (over 200), film & tv. I use Logic, which rocks.

But Garageband is WONDERFUL for songwriting, quick demos and is a fantastic starter app for would-be musicians. On top of that, a lot of *famous* musicians I know use it all the time. Sonically it is indistinguishable from Logic...and maybe our *expert* isn't aware that Garageband is FREE. Gee...these forums...

Adobe Audition has some great features but in my opinion is a little outdated. FYI it still uses VSTi plugins as opposed to core audio, which is more efficient. Hard to beat Logic for just $150 more.

Of course that's if you're a pro. It might be fine for an opinionated hobbyist though.....

 

[milo]

No, ignorance is calling Garageband a piece of junk. It has it's place. I'm a professional music producer who does music for records (over 200), film & tv. I use Logic, which rocks.

But Garageband is WONDERFUL for songwriting, quick demos and is a fantastic starter app for would-be musicians. On top of that, a lot of *famous* musicians I know use it all the time. Sonically it is indistinguishable from Logic...and maybe our *expert* isn't aware that Garageband is FREE. Gee...these forums...

While I agree that GB shouldn't be dismissed as "junk" I agree with the rest of his point which was that it's ridiculous to imply Audition does nothing more than GB does.

FYI it still uses VSTi plugins as opposed to core audio, which is more efficient.

Since it's still PC only, of course it doesn't support AU/core audio, which don't exist in windows. The mac version is still in development and features haven't been finalized, I don't believe they've announced if it will be VST only or also support AU (personally I'd prefer AU or both).

Hard to beat Logic for just $150 more.

True, but it does seem to have some features Logic lacks (assuming they make it to the mac version).

 

[NetScheduler]

Right

No, ignorance is calling Garageband a piece of junk. It has it's place. I'm a professional music producer who does music for records (over 200), film & tv. I use Logic, which rocks.

But Garageband is WONDERFUL for songwriting, quick demos and is a fantastic starter app for would-be musicians. On top of that, a lot of *famous* musicians I know use it all the time. Sonically it is indistinguishable from Logic...and maybe our *expert* isn't aware that Garageband is FREE. Gee...these forums...

Well we just do things a little different then. I use my BR-1600CD for "quick demos" and then import into PT (on a PC) for editing if I wish to take it further. I used to do the same with Cool Edit Pro (Audition's Predecessor) which to me, was as good as PT except that it didn't support MIDI (a real deal breaker at the time)..

Different strokes for different folks. I'm just a life long player (and not a big time opinionated record producer like you) who enjoys recording in my basement at this point in my life (52 years). Glad to know that the "Big Boys" like you all prefer GB.

All this said, I'll give Audition a try on my Mac.

 

[MacSlut]

Audition is big in radio

I know a ton of people in radio using Adobe Audition. It's funny because most of them are now running it with Windows on a Mac, and it's the last thing keeping them from removing Windows altogether.

I'm a little surprised by this move as I thought Adobe was going to just keep offering Sound Booth and consider that users who really wanted Audition would run it with Windows.

Audition *is* a really great program, and I plan on using it on the Mac as my primary audio editing app. Currently I use a mix of several apps, but have always been jealous of Audition...even booting into Windows to use it from time to time on major projects.

 

[wonderspark]

To be fair, I've never tried Logic Studio, but looking over Logic Pro 9 and Soundtrack Pro 3 has me wondering how it will play with Adobe's products.

I currently use CS3, and bought CS5 to install once I'm done with the film project I'm editing now, and therefore have too much invested to just jump over to Final Cut. However, if it plays nicely with Adobe, then maybe Logic is worth looking into. I'm impressed with the concept of Flex Time tool in Logic Pro 9, for example.

I'm not the type to stand by one application or another simply because it's the one I know and use. I make choices based on what works, my needs, and my budget. I'm frustrated with Soundbooth CS3, and don't think Soundbooth CS5 is going to be much better. I know Audition, and that it will do what I need. On the other hand, if the stars align for Logic Studio, and it works better than Audition for Mac, I'm not against making that choice.

All we need now is Audition for Mac in order to see what works best!

 

[pmasters]

That's in your fantasy world. MIGHT be more Macs in recording studios??? NO. ARE, Period. Just like PC's have the business world, Macs have the music recording industry world, bar none and it just isn't a place you will find serious musicians using Windows machines. In my area there are 2 major stores that sell only recording equipment and the only computers they have set up are Macs, which they also sell. Not a PC in the place except for the cash registers.

And your proof is what exactly?

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

Earlier this month, we pointed to a YouTube video of what appeared to be a Mac OS X version of Adobe Audition, the company's professional audio production application that has long been a Windows-only release.

As noted by both The Loop and Macworld today, Adobe has officially acknowledged that Audition will be coming to the Mac, with a public beta scheduled for release in "Winter 2010".Adobe has also posted a pair of preview videos showing what users can expect in Adobe Audition for Mac.

Article Link: Adobe Audition for Mac Confirmed, Beta Release in Late 2010

Great news, long wait.

 

[pmasters]

To be fair, I've never tried Logic Studio, but looking over Logic Pro 9 and Soundtrack Pro 3 has me wondering how it will play with Adobe's products.

I currently use CS3, and bought CS5 to install once I'm done with the film project I'm editing now, and therefore have too much invested to just jump over to Final Cut. However, if it plays nicely with Adobe, then maybe Logic is worth looking into. I'm impressed with the concept of Flex Time tool in Logic Pro 9, for example.

I'm not the type to stand by one application or another simply because it's the one I know and use. I make choices based on what works, my needs, and my budget. I'm frustrated with Soundbooth CS3, and don't think Soundbooth CS5 is going to be much better. I know Audition, and that it will do what I need. On the other hand, if the stars align for Logic Studio, and it works better than Audition for Mac, I'm not against making that choice.

All we need now is Audition for Mac in order to see what works best!

It doesn't play nicely as in integration. To do this, you would need FCS and use the Adobe export to FCP to STP if you are looking for any type of integration indirectly.

 

[pmasters]

I always welcome any new software for Mac that was Windows Only in the past but my complaint is Adobe not doing this a long time ago. Seems to me that they've suddenly seen how power Apple has and how much people are flocking to their platforms and now Adobe is struggling to protecting themselves of failure so they now start doing more for Apple's products. Adobe Audition is welcome, but IMO, it was just done in desperation.

Let me understand this. You fault Adobe for not spending resources for a platform that did not have as many users years ago but somehow they are struggling to protect themselves by developing for a platform that is growing? This is called business. Why waste resources developing for a platform that would not return acceptable profits for a platform until that platform provides enough users to guarantee a profitable return?

For crying out loud, have any of you taken a simple Business course ever?

 

[pmasters]

Ya.... I'm wondering the same -- Pro Tools ? and if it's such a Great alternative to Bias Peak can just use Peak ? I actually like the company Bias " adobe has never impressed me on that level " or better yet... is it cool if I just stick Abelton Live 8 and Pro tools -- More reinventing of the Wheel from adobe huh -

This will feed my " show as many adobe users as i can the free alternative " Fire though hahaha ---- like um Gimp and um Audacity - and um ....

I think what adobe is doing is similar to rape - they wont be getting my money unless the crap is unquestionably better then the competition and much less $$ .. So when they are able to hit those notes - I will begin to forgive their ruthlessly ignorant and lazy track record =)

Very classy. You have just compared a business to a disgusting and inexcusable crime. You have issues my friend.

 

[wonderspark]

It doesn't play nicely as in integration. To do this, you would need FCS and use the Adobe export to FCP to STP if you are looking for any type of integration indirectly.

Yeah, see... going to Final Cut isn't going to happen right now, having just bought Production Premium CS5. Maybe down the road... 2012? Hahaha

 

[Man-Droid]

Audition cool. That guy..... not so much. Annoying video.