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Maybe Apple could buy Adobe, strip out the deadwood, scrap flash, update/improve the other applications and run it as a separate business like they do with FileMaker?

That might actually be difficult since they have competing software in a small field. I could see shouts of "monopoly" flying around. Not to mention the relationship between the companies would no doubt make this a hostile bid, and Apple isn't exactly a finance company looking to play that game.
 
This business of Apple now allowing Adobe-derived apps to be ported to iPhone and iPad--I can't help but wonder if Apple is trying to once again make nice with Adobe in the hopes of introducing a version of Flash to the iPad. SJ can be mercurial like that--maybe all the previous statements about Flash were designed to give Apple bargaining leverage to get Adobe to produce a separate version specifically for the iPad.
 
Am I the only one who hasn't had a problem with Adobe's software. I mean, I don't like Flash, and it's a resource hog. However, I've never had problems with Photoshop or and of the rest of the CS.
 
Apple should put a marker on apps in the store that indicates if the app was created natively or through a 3rd party method (like flash).
and could even have a disclaimer pop up when someone goes to buy/download a non native app.

Then see what users choose (over a span of time, I don't think the numbers would come out very representative over a short period)

If apps that are not native constantly crash and drain performance then people will naturally stay away from them. (or at least realize it's not the fault of the device/Apple)

I guess what I'm saying is, informing the user may be the best method of control.
 
Adobe, on behalf of the internet I ask you to **** and GTFO.

The internet called... they don't want you speaking on behalf of them.


Am I the only one who hasn't had a problem with Adobe's software. I mean, I don't like Flash, and it's a resource hog. However, I've never had problems with Photoshop or and of the rest of the CS.

Considering I work for a multi billion dollar conglomerate that uses Adobe software in almost every department; I can tell you we have more calls about Final Cut Pro, Sound Track Pro, and Entourage. Final Cut and Entourage are our biggest headaches.
 
Am I the only one who hasn't had a problem with Adobe's software. I mean, I don't like Flash, and it's a resource hog. However, I've never had problems with Photoshop or and of the rest of the CS.

No, I like Photoshop Elements, I'm an amateur and it does what I need. I don't feel strongly about Flash one way or the other. Occasionally I'm surfing with my iPhone and I run across a site that relies on Flash, so, if it's really important, I just wait until I'm at a computer. I would be in favor of Flash on the iPad if (1) using it or not were a user option; and (2) it would run dependably. I don't care about having it on the iPhone. I use Acrobat Professional at work and I find it a good document management tool for my needs.

In short, I have no vendetta against Adobe. I think there's a lot of emotion being expended on what are essentially tools.
 
Basically the only money Adobe makes on Flash at all is with the sales of it's Flash authoring software. Flash is also only a tiny sliver of the products Adobe offers. So any negativity towards Flash would only have a small sliver of an effect on it's bottom line.

Most Flash designers and developers I know including myself did not stop using Flash a few months ago just because. We all have clients demand we make this stuff so for all of us it has been business as usual. Some of us upgraded to CS5 out of habit and for the few features they added. A good 99% of the people that bought Flash for the iphone packager were likely to buy the upgrade at some point anyway. It isn't as if you can just magically pump out an iphone app if you buy it you still have to know what the heck you are doing.

To be honest I don't think Flash has anything to do with this situation at all but the fact that Adobe updates are getting a bit stale. Now this has not as much to do with Adobe as it does the fact that there is only so much you can do with a software application. Most of the Adobe software is pretty mature and has most of the core features people need. A lot of the new features in Photoshop CS5 are cool but they are only quick shortcuts to do some of the things many of us have been doing for years. I have noticed many Adobe users sitting out the CS5 update because they just didn't see a compelling reason to upgrade when CS4 worked perfectly fine for them. If you cannot see yourself using the new features then why upgrade right away. It isn't as if the software is earth shattering different then it was before. To be fair Apple got a lot of the same criticism for the latest Final Cut Studio version. It isn't really fair to be upset at any of them however. FCS already has most of the core features a user needs and it may never have another rock your world update.

I think Adobe felt they had a huge update with CS5 and on the surface it does look like a lot but it just was not a necessity for a lot of people to upgrade yet. At least the designers who use the core features of a design application and not the cool bells and whistles that amateurs go nuts over.
 
oh please...

Their stock price dropped from around 34 to 26 because of their poor guidance. It has nothing to do with Apple or anybody else. If anything Apple's relaxed rules should have helped their stock price.
 
oh please...

Their stock price dropped from around 34 to 26 because of their poor guidance. It has nothing to do with Apple or anybody else. If anything Apple's relaxed rules should have helped their stock price.

I agree. Their stock is down because CS5 across the board just wasn't all that spectacular. It was nice but not everybody needs the bells and whistles that it added. Adobe products are getting mature and they need to figure out a way to innovate again. I'm not talking the odd ball experimenting on Adobe Labs either but real stuff people use.
 
Adobe's conference call disturbed analysts and investors. The stock is down 20 percent. However, the tumble is much undeserved. And the comments on Apple show that Adobe is more than just a "Flash" in the pan.
 
me too. there aren't a lot of alternatives that are better, but adobe charges too much for what you get.

Seeing how many developers can make thousands of dollars for a single product... paying $2000 for a suite of products that can potentially earn you a comfortable living is not bad at all. Plus most of the smart developers put the cost of software into the price they charge clients on a percentage scale.
 
Am I the only one who hasn't had a problem with Adobe's software. I mean, I don't like Flash, and it's a resource hog. However, I've never had problems with Photoshop or and of the rest of the CS.

No; you're not.

I work mostly in Adobe apps (including Flash) and have a crash maybe once every two months.

Safari crashes on me more often than that.
 
oh please...

Their stock price dropped from around 34 to 26 because of their poor guidance. It has nothing to do with Apple or anybody else. If anything Apple's relaxed rules should have helped their stock price.

Stock price has more to do with what the hedge fund manager in the next cubicle is shouting than anything a company does.
 
Amen! Same problems w/ premiere here. Not as often, but come on, I'm running a $6000 editing rig and I get these problems everyone writes off that I have a computer with insufficient requirements. Right, keep talking. Only thing good from Adobe: Photoshop, Illustrator and After Effects.

Maybe on a Mac, definitly Not on a Windows 7 pc. You can Even edit Red 4k Material in realtime and it Works pretty well. Try the Sam e Thing in Final Cut.
 
Maybe on a Mac, definitly Not on a Windows 7 pc. You can Even edit Red 4k Material in realtime and it Works pretty well. Try the Sam e Thing in Final Cut.

It's very clear you have no idea what your trying to convey, before you try to compare Final Cut to Adobe's be very certin what you say is true.

Now the first part of your post your in love with Windows 7..., use whatever you want.

Now in your last sentence you tried to compare Final Cut with Adobe's Lack luster Premiere, and here is where you have failed, next time before posting a comparison be very,very certian you have your facts correct.

Itsos so obvious you haven't the slightest idea what Final Cut can do and it's clear with that last line.

You just came off as a very stupid Troll.

Good day.
 
It's very clear you have no idea what your trying to convey, before you try to compare Final Cut to Adobe's be very certin what you say is true.

Now the first part of your post your in love with Windows 7..., use whatever you want.

Now in your last sentence you tried to compare Final Cut with Adobe's Lack luster Premiere, and here is where you have failed, next time before posting a comparison be very,very certian you have your facts correct.

Itsos so obvious you haven't the slightest idea what Final Cut can do and it's clear with that last line.

You just came off as a very stupid Troll.

Good day.

Talk about troll comment!
 
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