It seems to me that Adobe has a complete monopoly in their area. Frankly that has me a little upset, especially with the UI changes in CS4. Sounds like they are making changes just to be making changes. Now as a proud Macbook owner still working the CS1 in all its Rosetta glory, would there be any good contenders as an all out Adobe replacement? I've played around with Pixelmator and Vector Designer, the former lacking a bezier curve (pen tool) was just barbaric and the fact that the VD folks wanted $70 for that mess of an App was shocking. However, I also fear that these two apps are the only main competition for Adobe and big A's apps are seeming to become lackluster. Sigh... That and I'd rather not spend that ghastly amount for Adobe again At least not until I start freelancing from home. I'm interested in something with edge, much like Pixelmator. In fact, once a pen tool and path editing gets added I may break down and purchase that piece of software. But then I'm left filling a large Vector void. Probably best to stick to Illustrator in that case... but still it's unnerving that lack of competition especially with the purchase of Macromedia not too long ago. Sorry about the rant, just felt it was necessary. Oh, and happy Independence Day!