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Adobe Creative Suite 2 Announced

At first, I was excited about this upgrade.

But I will definitely pass. 3 reasons why:

1. Does not support CoreVideo and other key Tiger technologies. If and when leveraged, Tiger's technology should make the CS suite significantly faster and better. For this, I would pay for the upgrade.

2. Product Activation. Sorry, but this is not the Windows world. And I don't care what the carefully crafted press release and interviews say. This treats me like a criminal, shares information I consider private, and is always buggy and quirky. And yes, I always pay for my software, which is why I get so indignant at this stuff.

3. Buggy Adobe Products. Adobe, like Intuit, is so focused on the annual upgrade revenue that the base code doesn't get enough time in the free world to get the bugs out and stable. Quickbooks, Quicken, etc., have had the same list of bugs for years in some cases. Adobe products are the same story. Because of the lack of quality, I want to stick with CS and wait out the 3 or 4 patches so that it is reasonably stable, then I can get a few years of value. I don't want to go through the v1, v2 pain of CS2.

Long story short, I am passing this time around. If CS3 really leverages Tigers technologies and gets a huge performance and stability boost, I'm probably in for the upgrade then.
 
Product activation is here to stay -- legitimate users should have no complaints. Granted, it is a nuisance but complaints should be directed at the people that have bought this about: warez dealers.
 
Nice 🙄 😀

Hope this version will be a lot faster and better than CS.

Also, apple give us some new machines to run these apps on 😉
 
Unless I've missed something the mac version still doesn't require activation. It certainly isn't listed on Adobe's site as needing and what I've managed to google makes no mention of it either.
I'm suprised we find people complaining about the cost. This is pro software, alot of people can make back the software cost and more in one job. As for education complaints, I would be very suprised if any course actually taught anything specific to the new version so there fore it comes down to what the individual wants. You either buy it or you don't but the fact the education version is almost a thrid of the price of the full retail version I'd be happy. You don't have to upgrade after all, if the current version fullfills your needs (I'm yet to meet one person who actually uses 100% of the features in CS) then stick with it.
 
OK just had a brief look at Adobe's site and now I want it.

The new tools and effects in PS just look so great 🙄

And then with all the other programs 😱 WOW 😉
 
BWhaler said:
http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/04/03/activation/index.php?lsrc=mwrss-0405

It even has OSX screenshots of the activation process.

Another Microsoft innovation we are all the poorer for...
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Oh well Bob stands corrected 😛
Never mind it could me worse. If you are a current Photoshop user and purchase the upgrade pack which serial number is sent to Adobe? Is it the new one you get with the upgrade thus linking that CS2 disk with your machine?
 
BWhaler said:
Come on.

A student version is about 100 bucks. The whole CS suite is under 400 bucks for students. And the cost of text books can push 2-5x that much nowadays.

Don't get me wrong, I want cheaper software too. But if you are paying retail prices for academic purposes, you're just not trying.
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I guess i was a little tired when i posted, keep forgeting that the whole CS package is for professionals. 😱 Mainly I was just trying to spread the word about GIMPshop with the thinking that the more people who use/support it will result in a better program. This may not have been the best place to given that mainly people who use photoshop (and the whole CS package) for professional reasons will be reading this forum. Still GIMP is a pretty powerul image editing tool, and it's nice to see that someone has given a more accesable/familiar interface. Also I never had to purchase anything, they do have computer labs, I was just a little shocked at the price when I found out. 😀
 
BurkDP said:
I guess i was a little tired when i posted, keep forgeting that the whole CS package is for professionals. 😱 Mainly I was just trying to spread the word about GIMPshop with the thinking that the more people who use/support it will result in a better program. This may not have been the best place to given that mainly people who use photoshop (and the whole CS package) for professional reasons will be reading this forum. Still GIMP is a pretty powerul image editing tool, and it's nice to see that someone has given a more accesable/familiar interface. Also I never had to purchase anything, they do have computer labs, I was just a little shocked at the price when I found out. 😀
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GIMP is a great tool (well set of tools) and more people need to know about it. If it was by a company such as Apple or Corel (maybe even Quark) people would be talking about it as a potential rival to PS.
Given time it will get better, personally I think everyone should have a copy of it even if they have Photochop right next to it.
 
Some_Big_Spoon said:
e gads! $1299.. makes you feel a little better about the $129 apple charges per year since adobe charges 10x that a year.

wish apple would come out with a "Pages" for the web. I like GoLive, but i want it even faster and easier.
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yeah and they could call it "webPages" HAhahahahahhahahaha

😀 🙄
 
The last full version of Photoshop I owned was 4.0[!] but I wanted to echo the recommendation for Photoshop Elements to those who don't require every single feature of the full version - it really is great value compared with CS/ CS2 unless you need the pro stuff (in which case you'll know that and have already skipped past this post I'd guess!).

I also want to add my disapproval to the concept of 'product activation'. It should really be called something like the 'prove you're not a pirate process', and treating paying customers as criminals unless they prove otherwise is just plain rude in my opinion. I'm not in favour in pirating software at all, but if I was on the edge and considering it, this is something that could tip the balance in favour of going the dodgy route - why should the honest purchaser be punished when the people downloading cracked versions will have none of this hassle at all? It reminds me of old Amiga games I used to own that came with crazy code wheels and password combos in the instruction book... infuriating.

I understand the need for Adobe to protect their investment in development, but 'product activation' is a step backwards in my opinion.
 
Product activation can be and will be cracked. It's only a nuisance to legitimate owners and the casual user. It certainly prevents the casual pirate but those sneaky, crafty pirates will find a way to circumvent the activation for sale in third world countries where $1299 US is beyond what most people make in their lifetimes.
 
BurkDP said:
I guess i was a little tired when i posted, keep forgeting that the whole CS package is for professionals. 😱
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Don't sweat it. And welcome to Macrumors. 🙂
 
bigandy said:
yeah and they could call it "webPages" HAhahahahahhahahaha

😀 🙄
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🙂


I would LOVE a web page/site designer for the rest of us. This would be a great addition to iWork 06.
 
Looks good. It has to be better than CS which was not all that great.
I'm looking forward to playing around with some of the new features!
 
QE vs ID

I thought Quark just dropped their licensing scheme for Express, but now Adobe is introducing it for InDesign?

WTH?
 
BWhaler said:
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I would LOVE a web page/site designer for the rest of us. This would be a great addition to iWork 06.
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Yes that would be great in iWork 06, and hopefully Pages will have a good re-work 😱 Keynote is good but could also have imporvments 🙄
 
717 said:
I thought Quark just dropped their licensing scheme for Express, but now Adobe is introducing it for InDesign?

WTH?
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If you mean product activation, then Quark has not dropped it at all for Xpress.

What Quark have dropped is the extra fee to install Xpress on a 2nd machine... they now have the same conditions as many Adobe products: two machines, as long as they are not connected and used simultaneously.
 
I'm going to skip this version and struggle on with CS1.

However, I would buy CS2 if I could be sure that Adobe would :

a) Fix the existing bugs in Illustrator and GoLive.
b) Speed GoLive up to an acceptable level
c) Fix any new bugs that are introduced promptly.

I need new features like I need a hole in the head ... I just want something that is stable and fast.
 
big NO to product activation

Product activation is a hassle for people who have legally purchased software.

I bought Adobe CS Premium Edition last March. For me, I don't think the new version is worth upgrading to at this time. Version 1.1 does everything I need and more.

Some system requirements:
• PowerPC® G4 or G5 processor
• Mac OS X v.10.2.8 through v.10.3.8 (10.3.4 through 10.3.8 recommended; G5 requires v.10.3 or later), Java™ Runtime Environment 1.4.1

Using a G5 requires Pather or later. How strange. Support for G3s are dropped. One more reason not to upgrade. My emergency back-up macine is a G3.

Oh and it looks like the new InDesign can save backward compatible files for InDesign v3. That's a good thing. Sounds like Adobe listened to customers in that respect.
 
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