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Adobe Creative Suite 4 and Flash Player 10 Now Available

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Adobe has announced that Creative Suite 4 (PDF) and Flash Player 10 (PDF) are now available.

Creative Suite 4 (CS4), unveiled on September 23rd, is available in six versions: Design Premium, Design Standard, Web Premium, Web Standard, Production Premium and Master Collection. Prices range from $399 to $899 for upgrades and $999 to $2499 for full versions. Complete package and pricing details are available on Adobe's site.

Also available today are standalone components from CS4: Photoshop, Photoshop Extended, InDesign, Illustrator, Flash Professional, Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Contribute, After Effects, Premiere Pro (with Encore and OnLocation), and Soundbooth.

Flash Player 10 is available as a free download for Mac, Windows, and Linux. For both Intel and PowerPC Macs, Flash Player 10 is supported on OS X 10.4 Tiger and 10.5 Leopard, and with Firefox 2.x, Firefox 3.x, Opera 9.5 and Safari 3.x. MacRumors previously highlighted some of Flash Player 10's performance enhancements.

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KindredMAC

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Sep 23, 2003
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YEAH! I'm not too concerned about 32-bit for the Mac.

Most users do not ride Photoshop hard enough to notice a slow down and when I do get Photoshop and my Mac Pro sweating I figure, hey I still get paid no matter how long the file takes to get worked over!
 
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dpcalhoun

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Sep 8, 2008
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I pre-ordered CS4 from Apple when I bought my iMac a couple of weeks ago. I wonder how long it will take for Apple to ship it to me. My order status says shipping Nov 26. I hope that's not true!:confused:
 
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drlunanerd

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Feb 14, 2004
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Adobe,
Please open up http://labs.digg.com/bigspy/ on a pc and watch the CPU usage.
Good. Now go to an Apple running OS X.
Open the activity Monitor & go to http://labs.digg.com/bigspy/ again.

Now please explain why the OS X version uses 119% of my Core Duo 2?
(Freshly installed)

Good call.

However now try those links (and this one http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/ ) in Firefox 3 and also Webkit. For me they were using about 20% less CPU cycles. Tested multiple times.

Seems Safari 3.1.2 is a problem here.
 
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ChrisA

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Jan 5, 2006
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Redondo Beach, California
Now please explain why the OS X version uses 119% of my Core Duo 2?
(Freshly installed)

Is 119% good or bad? is 10% or 190% a better number? I'd argue that the higher the CPU utilization the better. Low numbers typically mean the CPU is waiting for something like a slow disk subsystem.

The number that matters is measured with the clock on the wall. How long does it take to get the job done.
 
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dashiel

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Nov 12, 2003
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Adobe,
Please open up http://labs.digg.com/bigspy/ on a pc and watch the CPU usage.
Good. Now go to an Apple running OS X.
Open the activity Monitor & go to http://labs.digg.com/bigspy/ again.

Now please explain why the OS X version uses 119% of my Core Duo 2?
(Freshly installed)

i'm running the last f10 beta plugin, that page spikes at about 60% on really large type, other than that it bubbles between 15-40%. i wonder if there was a regression between the last beta and the release version.
 
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roger6106

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Jun 19, 2007
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i'm running the last f10 beta plugin, that page spikes at about 60% on really large type, other than that it bubbles between 15-40%. i wonder if there was a regression between the last beta and the release version.


I get 15-40% usage with the official release, so it seems something else is causing the problem. This is very similar to what I got with Flash 9.
 
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Jiddick ExRex

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May 14, 2006
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Is 119% good or bad? is 10% or 190% a better number? I'd argue that the higher the CPU utilization the better. Low numbers typically mean the CPU is waiting for something like a slow disk subsystem.

The number that matters is measured with the clock on the wall. How long does it take to get the job done.

Argue away. It won't change the fact that you're absolutely wrong. If a piece of software uses up 100% of you CPU and another piece of software only 10 in order to fulfil the same task, would you hump the leg of the software that uses 100%?
My guess it that it would just burn your crotch.

You cannot say that low numbers always are bad, in fact the less use the better if the goal is attained. You always have to measure it with the effect of the software.
 
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mabaker

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Jan 19, 2008
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30%-45% on my G5 on that digg site.

I definitely call the new Flash version a big improvement.
 
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neuropsychguy

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Sep 29, 2008
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Adobe,
Please open up http://labs.digg.com/bigspy/ on a pc and watch the CPU usage.
Good. Now go to an Apple running OS X.
Open the activity Monitor & go to http://labs.digg.com/bigspy/ again.

Now please explain why the OS X version uses 119% of my Core Duo 2?
(Freshly installed)

That's weird. When I visit that site my MacBook's processor utilization never goes over 30% sustained (there are very rare spikes up to 35%). Of course, my computer is only four months old and I'm running 4 GB RAM.
 
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Amdahl

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Jul 28, 2004
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I'm noticing a lot of YouTube videos seem to distort(MPEG glitch you might call it) with Flash 10. Once a new key-frame is hit, it goes back to normal. I wonder if this is on YouTube's end, or a bug in Flash?

Either way, an awful big mistake to have not fixed before shipping.
 
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nick9191

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Feb 17, 2008
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Britain
Adobe,
Please open up http://labs.digg.com/bigspy/ on a pc and watch the CPU usage.
Good. Now go to an Apple running OS X.
Open the activity Monitor & go to http://labs.digg.com/bigspy/ again.

Now please explain why the OS X version uses 119% of my Core Duo 2?
(Freshly installed)

Works fine here.

2.2ghz Core 2 Macbook. Ranges from 15-35% on the old Flash player. On Flash 10 ranges from 5-20%. In both cases fans stay idle.
 
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Virtuoso

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Feb 21, 2008
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I don't really care about the other applications being 32bit, but After Effects badly needs 64 bit support. Compositing and previewing in HD takes a huge amount of memory and to still be held back by 32 bit limitations after all these years really sucks. :mad:
 
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flottenheimer

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Jan 8, 2008
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Was looking forward to feel the speed optimization on our old 12" 1.33 GHz PowerBook G4. But I ain't feelin' any. Flash still seems unnessesarily slow on PowerPC.

Didn't Adobe promise speed optimized PowerPC code in Flash 10?

Everything seems pretty fast on our new MacBook Pros though (but my kids love their 12" PB G4 - and they surf a lot of online Flash stuff).
 
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doctoree

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Jun 28, 2008
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CS 4 Trial now available

The CS 4 Trial can now be downloaded from Adobes Servers through a technical trick only:


1. On Adobes HP goto Downloads / Trial Downloads / Lightroom 2.0 - click trial.

2. Login or make an new account.

3. The window with the language settings and stuff, leave it blank and instead on a new tab open

http://trials.adobe.com/Applications/MastCol/CS4/Mac/ADBESTAMCS4_LS1.dmg for the DVD with the Master Collection (approx 7 GB in size)

http://trials.adobe.com/Applications/MastCol/CS4/Mac/STAMCS4_Cont_LS1.dmg for the extra content dvd

Adobes trials are traditionally not only trials but far more. But I won't discuss this here because it probably violates forum rules.

Doc
 
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alansmallen

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Jun 25, 2007
859
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The CS 4 Trial can now be downloaded from Adobes Servers through a technical trick only:


1. On Adobes HP goto Downloads / Trial Downloads / Lightroom 2.0 - click trial.

2. Login or make an new account.

3. The window with the language settings and stuff, leave it blank and instead on a new tab open

http://trials.adobe.com/Applications/MastCol/CS4/Mac/ADBESTAMCS4_LS1.dmg for the DVD with the Master Collection (approx 7 GB in size)

http://trials.adobe.com/Applications/MastCol/CS4/Mac/STAMCS4_Cont_LS1.dmg for the extra content dvd

Adobes trials are traditionally not only trials but far more. But I won't discuss this here because it probably violates forum rules.

Doc

I'm trying to get that to work but all I get is this:
 

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FieryFurnace

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Sep 19, 2008
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Anybody knows when the Apple store will have CS 4 in stock? :confused:
I'm about to get a MacBook and wanted to get the "with a Mac" discount, but I'm afraid to order. It says "shipping in 1-2 month" and even they(Apple Store) couldn't tell me when it will be available.
 
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alansmallen

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Jun 25, 2007
859
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Anybody knows when the Apple store will have CS 4 in stock? :confused:
I'm about to get a MacBook and wanted to get the "with a Mac" discount, but I'm afraid to order. It says "shipping in 1-2 month" and even they(Apple Store) couldn't tell me when it will be available.

I just got back from the NYC 14th street Apple Store and they had the CS4 boxes on the software racks. I'm assuming that means that they're in stock.
 
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kaiwai

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Oct 21, 2007
709
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Christchurch
The CS 4 Trial can now be downloaded from Adobes Servers through a technical trick only:


1. On Adobes HP goto Downloads / Trial Downloads / Lightroom 2.0 - click trial.

2. Login or make an new account.

3. The window with the language settings and stuff, leave it blank and instead on a new tab open

http://trials.adobe.com/Applications/MastCol/CS4/Mac/ADBESTAMCS4_LS1.dmg for the DVD with the Master Collection (approx 7 GB in size)

http://trials.adobe.com/Applications/MastCol/CS4/Mac/STAMCS4_Cont_LS1.dmg for the extra content dvd

Adobes trials are traditionally not only trials but far more. But I won't discuss this here because it probably violates forum rules.

Doc

So I assume that when you download the trial - if you wish to purchase it, you don't have to re-download it again, it is just a matter of putting in the serial number which you purchased off Adobe?

Sounds damn convienent, especially for those of us who wish to try it out but don't want to then have to re-download the images again for the 'full version'.
 
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