Meh. Even with those alternatives I still believe Adobe have the monopoly. I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on the photography CC subscription. I bought Lightroom outright last year but could never afford Photoshop CS6. This will be the perfect way of allowing me to have the two best photography software suites on the market.
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Adobe 'Doubling Down' on Lightroom in Wake of Apple's Aperture Announcement
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Meh. Even with those alternatives I still believe Adobe have the monopoly. I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on the photography CC subscription. I bought Lightroom outright last year but could never afford Photoshop CS6. This will be the perfect way of allowing me to have the two best photography software suites on the market.
Giving you no choice in how things are managed is not intuitive, it's limiting your options - there's a big difference.
LR's file management is very easy. I've shown it to non-computer literate people and if they've got it, then it's anything but difficult to understand.
And is exactly why Aperture died. Because their idea of how pros should work was frankly not very good.
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You don't really seem to understand the word 'monopoly' methinks.
Photostream is an Apple tool, so no.
Nothing to stop you importing photostreamed images via auto-import though. Not the same as syncing between devices I realise - anyway the new Photos app will look after Photostream for you.
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The thought of the service disappearing if you stop paying, that's what's hard to swallow. I'm that way with Dropbox. I pay $13.99 per month for my 133GB of space + unlimited history. If I stop paying, my workflow and peace of mind suffer. Sure, I could pay the annual fee and say a small amount, but then I need to look forward to that larger annual fee. I already deal with that for iCloud and many other services, either monthly, semi-annually or annually. There needs to be a better way... like a common "SaaS management service" that gives a birds-eye management of these cloud services and payments in one central place.
There is nothing "cloud" about Creative Cloud. I feel that they chose the worst name for this as it seems to scare people away. You install the software to your computer just as you always have before, all your photos, RAW files, everything is local on your computer. The one and only thing that happens is it checks with Adobe servers to see if your subscription is still current. If it's not current you have 30 days to make it current. That means that if you're stuck in the Antarctic with no internet, you could be there for 30 days and still use your software as usual.
I find it hard to believe in this day and age that anyone would be away for some sort of internet connection for more than 30 days. Even if you hotspot your phone for the two seconds it takes Adobe to check your subscription, you'll be goo to do for another 30 days.
So all that being said, there is nothing "cloud" about it.
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It doesn't just "go away" You have 30 days after you stop paying to continue using the software. It doesn't just delete itself off your computer the second you don't pay. All your files are local on your computer so even if the software stops working you don't lose anything at all.
How many times does it need to be posted that you can buy LR outright? Though I wouldn't just now as LR6 is not far off.
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I have been demoing LR5 for a few weeks now. I really enjoy it, and will likely buy the standalone licence; although I was hoping for news of LR6 so I don't end up with buyers remorse a week later. I think it will still be offered standalone, because that brings two revenue sources instead of just one.
LR works fine with photostream... you just have to add a step. Edit your photo in LR, create an export preset to a folder specifically for photostream, export it there with the option "open in iPhoto after export" and share it to whatever stream you want. Then, delete the contents of your export folder (and I just leave that copy in iPhoto) Not as easy as aperture, but it works fine for me.
Apple is simply focusing their work. I will be a LR user because I am a photographer. I will also use the new photos app, because I like to share my photos in photostream and have a backup image.
LR works fine with photostream... you just have to add a step. Edit your photo in LR, create an export preset to a folder specifically for photostream, export it there with the option "open in iPhoto after export" and share it to whatever stream you want. Then, delete the contents of your export folder (and I just leave that copy in iPhoto) Not as easy as aperture, but it works fine for me.
Apple is simply focusing their work. I will be a LR user because I am a photographer. I will also use the new photos app, because I like to share my photos in photostream and have a backup image.
Mmm. I'll see if Light Room 6 is standalone and decently priced. Not a pro, don't want pro pricing.
How does Lightroom do regarding library/cataloging?
I used iPhoto and it is *terrible* with large libraries (I have over 25K photos). Everything is slow and uses tons of RAM.
Does Lightroom build a photo database, or just read an existing folder structure? How fast is it scrolling thru thousands of photos/albums?
I used iPhoto and it is *terrible* with large libraries (I have over 25K photos). Everything is slow and uses tons of RAM.
Does Lightroom build a photo database, or just read an existing folder structure? How fast is it scrolling thru thousands of photos/albums?
I know, but you said "the Mac", and it is already there until Snow Leopard inclusive.
At this point folks that don't like the pricing of Lightroom really just need to use Bridge CC and call it a day.
Apple seems to be abandoning their "Pro Apps" in favor of IOS. They are following the money. I can understand the market is tiny and they may as well give it to Adobe.
I suspect they will eventually dump Logic because people can just use Garage Band on an iPad. And they can dump FCPX because there is a video edit for the iPad too.
Adobe looks to be in this market for the long haul and really is better at it then Apple ever was. The trouble for Apple is that Adobe's software runs the same on Windows as it does on the Mac, so there is little reason to buy a Mac. I means really, Web browsers work the same on PCs or Macs, MS Word is close to the same and Adobe is the same. Why bother with Mac OS X?
Back in the day, the best software run only on the Mac. Looks like those days are gone.
I suspect they will eventually dump Logic because people can just use Garage Band on an iPad. And they can dump FCPX because there is a video edit for the iPad too.
Adobe looks to be in this market for the long haul and really is better at it then Apple ever was. The trouble for Apple is that Adobe's software runs the same on Windows as it does on the Mac, so there is little reason to buy a Mac. I means really, Web browsers work the same on PCs or Macs, MS Word is close to the same and Adobe is the same. Why bother with Mac OS X?
Back in the day, the best software run only on the Mac. Looks like those days are gone.
The best thing about Lightroom retail has always been the price, compared to the rest of Adobe's software (except Elements).
Pay your bill? It's freaking $10 a month. I thought Apple owners were in a higher income bracket. Apparently you guys spend it all on Starbucks.
I don't think you understand how LR Mobile works. It's CC only because they sync wirelessly wherever you are all of your raw files to your iPad as lower resolution versions which then sync any library changes or raw edits that you make back to the desktop. The guy in Dubuque had access to these apps because he continually pays Adobe to use their cloud servers. My iPad now has access to my 25,000 raw photos whenever I am (I ticked the boxes on the folders for the last few years). I wouldn't expect Adobe to give me that for free. Even if the lower-res raw previews are only 5MB each that's still about 120GB on their server. Photos that I can pull down from the cloud when I'm kicked back on some beach or in a forest somewhere. And it does a surprising amount for a 1.0 product, and has already been updated with some new features.
I will wait to see if the standalone Lightroom gets updated for 10.10. I just cancelled my Creative Cloud in May after being on the plan since it launched.
I stopped using Photoshop on a daily basis two years ago, and just recently bought Pixelmator to replace it. Paying $9.99 every month to use a $80 outright program is just stupid.
And yes, I know it includes the cloud space and Lightroom Mobile, but I have a laptop with a 500GB drive, so it's pointless.
I stopped using Photoshop on a daily basis two years ago, and just recently bought Pixelmator to replace it. Paying $9.99 every month to use a $80 outright program is just stupid.
And yes, I know it includes the cloud space and Lightroom Mobile, but I have a laptop with a 500GB drive, so it's pointless.