Adobe Flash Player Known Issues?

rrm74001

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Anyone else having issues with Adobe Flash Player and El Capitan?

I have had 3 hard crashes since upgrading to El Capitan on release day when viewing fullscreen YouTube videos.
 

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Anyone else having issues with Adobe Flash Player and El Capitan?

I have had 3 hard crashes since upgrading to El Capitan on release day when viewing fullscreen YouTube videos.
Just remove Flash completely from your Mac and disable it in any browsers that have it built-in (e.g Chrome). Then, clear your browsers cache before visiting YouTube with your newly Flash-free browser. You'll get a modern HTML5 YouTube experience.

I have have not used Flash on any of my many computers for over two years and haven't missed it one bit. Flash and Java are the two worst remaining security nightmares in the browser. Both of those POS plugins need to die in 2015.
 

cynics

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Just remove Flash completely from your Mac and disable it in any browsers that have it built-in (e.g Chrome). Then, clear your browsers cache before visiting YouTube with your newly Flash-free browser. You'll get a modern HTML5 YouTube experience.

I have have not used Flash on any of my many computers for over two years and haven't missed it one bit. Flash and Java are the two worst remaining security nightmares in the browser. Both of those POS plugins need to die in 2015.
That's fine if you can limit your usage but the majority of popular streaming sites still require it.

Showtime Anytime

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HBO Go

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Hulu

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Max Go

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Crunchyroll

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I also run into a ton of issues with many News sites still. So depending on your usage, doing away with Flash at this point is not a option until these sites decide to move to HTML5.
 

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You should ditch those sites entirely...
There isn't a single good reason to use flash in 2015, if not for lazy web designers
 
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Ditch Hulu, Showtime Anytime, HBO Go, etc? That's a non-starter, for many. I can't go for that, oh-no, no can do.


You should ditch those sites entirely...
There isn't a single good reason to use flash in 2015, if not for lazy web designers
 

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Yep, I had the same issue on a fresh install of os x multiple times. I will never install flash again and have it run on my system. I use chrome browser to view flash related content like twitch tv. I will never install that and java on my system. Last thing I want is a messed up hard drive because of the hard crash related to the stand alone flash.
 
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That's fine if you can limit your usage but the majority of popular streaming sites still require it.
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I also run into a ton of issues with many News sites still. So depending on your usage, doing away with Flash at this point is not a option until these sites decide to move to HTML5.
OK, we get it. The thing is, Flash and Java compromise the security of your Mac. As everyone else who has commented has said, get rid of them. If you want to see content that requires Flash, use Chrome, it will allow you to see Flash content without installing Flash. Did I mention???

USE CHROME!
 
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While it's all cute and fun when people say, "get rid of it", "flash is an outdated relic", etc....... People who live in reality accept that you have to use Flash for some websites. As for your problem, a reinstall may help, try the flash remover app from adobe's site.

After that, if you really want to prevent Flash running havoc on the web and serving you up junk and storing files on your computer, Go into the settings in system prefs, block all sites from storing information on your computer. Then you can go into the Safari prefs and turn it off and only turn it on when you need it, or you can do as I do and block it for all sites except the few sites you know you'll need it. Simple as that. When I go to a non authorized site, no flash starts and I get the message to install flash. For sites I know I want to use flash, they load normally. You can alternately set every page to "ask" rather than "allow" or "block" if you choose. I block everything except for spotify, google music and speed test.net personally.

Additionally, there is click to flash, but I like my method better. The only site I've ever had issue with is for Verizon FIOS live tv on the net, but that is because they are idiots and I rarely watch tv on my computer with them anyhow.
 
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OK, we get it. The thing is, Flash and Java compromise the security of your Mac. As everyone else who has commented has said, get rid of them. If you want to see content that requires Flash, use Chrome, it will allow you to see Flash content without installing Flash. Did I mention???

USE CHROME!
I wouldn't go that far to suggest the use of a Google product to protect the security of my Mac, but surely flash is so crap that for some Chrome could be a "necessary evil ".

Yet funny enough I'm running 19.0.226 without a single problem with Safari on El Capitan - maybe I'm just the luckiest guy on earth.
Without a single problem ... having a resource hog and security hole always opened aside.
Enjoy.

While it's all cute and fun when people say, "get rid of it", "flash is an outdated relic", etc....... People who live in reality accept that you have to use Flash for some websites. As for your problem, a reinstall may help, try the flash remover app from adobe's site.

After that, if you really want to prevent Flash running havoc on the web and serving you up junk and storing files on your computer, Go into the settings in system prefs, block all sites from storing information on your computer. Then you can go into the Safari prefs and turn it off and only turn it on when you need it, or you can do as I do and block it for all sites except the few sites you know you'll need it. Simple as that. When I go to a non authorized site, no flash starts and I get the message to install flash. For sites I know I want to use flash, they load normally. You can alternately set every page to "ask" rather than "allow" or "block" if you choose. I block everything except for spotify, google music and speed test.net personally.

Additionally, there is click to flash, but I like my method better. The only site I've ever had issue with is for Verizon FIOS live tv on the net, but that is because they are idiots and I rarely watch tv on my computer with them anyhow.
I definitely live in reality, and I don't have flash installed on my Mac.
 

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OK, we get it. The thing is, Flash and Java compromise the security of your Mac. As everyone else who has commented has said, get rid of them. If you want to see content that requires Flash, use Chrome, it will allow you to see Flash content without installing Flash. Did I mention???

USE CHROME!

Kind of defeats the point doesn't it? You do know the plugin in Chrome.

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Is the same from their webpage...

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With some additional security features which are no where near foolproof right?

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/hacking-teams-flash-0day-potent-enough-to-infect-actual-chrome-user/

So your solution is to not only still have the security risk but also do it in a browser I don't particularly like?

One could argue that the sandboxing of Safari in combination with flash has similar security which admittedly can cause problems playing media.

https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/removing-sandbox-restrictions-your-safari.html
 
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Kind of defeats the point doesn't it? You do know the plugin in Chrome.

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Is the same from their webpage...

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With some additional security features which are no where near foolproof right?

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/hacking-teams-flash-0day-potent-enough-to-infect-actual-chrome-user/

So your solution is to not only still have the security risk but also do it in a browser I don't particularly like?

One could argue that the sandboxing of Safari in combination with flash has similar security which admittedly can cause problems playing media.

https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/removing-sandbox-restrictions-your-safari.html
again, the only solution is to ditch it entirely, thus forcing the lazy web designers to update their websites ....