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Personally, Photopea does more than my needs.

Just some references: Affinity Designer & Photo now 10 USD (one-time) each after a 50% discount

I am worried that these prices are not enough to sustain this software. I like cheap, but there needs to a balance where its worthwhile for both customer and vendor. Also they should charge more if they ever want to grow and compete against Adobe.
 
Nobody cares. The apps are more popular than ever, cheaper than ever and nearly every company is doing it. Autodesk, The Foundry, Pixologic, etc

You can use the cheap substitute apps if you want but they won’t be industry leading and you will not be either.
So you like bending over and letting companies take you for a ride? Just because people are paying for it doesn’t mean it’s Better. Nobody likes subscription models and that’s aware talking to people.
just because companies are doing it doesn’t mean it’s right also. Companies are all jumping on that model with streaming. This app and that app. Most will fail and it’s just based out of greed. The older models of paying for software and getting upgrades year after year for a few is better to me. Or just keeping the software I have that’s been working for me for what I need. Not everyone wants 24 subscriptions every month because companies want more money.
 
Affinity Photo is literally Photoshop 10 years ago. It doesn’t even have some important features Photoshop had in the late 90s.
Most of the updates that Adobe does with Photoshop are geared towards web or 3D or video use. The most important photo editing features haven't really changed that much in decades, so people that are primarily focused on those can easily use other apps. Also, Adobe is obviously quite slow in native support for Apple's newest software and hardware technology, so that's another advantage to using alternates. Adobe has been a Windows-centric company since the '90s.
 
Personally, Photopea does more than my needs.



I am worried that these prices are not enough to sustain this software. I like cheap, but there needs to a balance where its worthwhile for both customer and vendor. Also they should charge more if they ever want to grow and compete against Adobe.
Serif sells all products separately, including dozens of brushes, fonts, and materials.

 
Are there really no other iPad Apps that does pencil well? I really don’t wanna buy into the subscription crap but would like to practise my pencil drawings digitally.
I don't think anyone replied to this (apologies if I'm repeating stuff, though).

If you just want to practice pencil-drawings but don't want to shell out any dough, try MediBang Paint. It's free! And pretty great. If you can afford to pay $10, buy Procreate. I actually prefer the brush engine in MediBang Paint. That is, I have an affinity for the particular "feel" of ink brushes in MBP and Clip Studio Paint. Clip Studio is (in my opinion) the absolute best app for inking and comic illustration, but it's subscription-based. Not very pricey, but yeah, that bit sucks. I'm a pro artist, so it's worth it for me, especially because it's also exactly the same as the desktop app.

Digressing, Procreate is an excellent art app. Definitely worth the extremely reasonable one-time fee. Updates are free FOREVER. Procreate's interface is actually pretty amazing. Super slick and intuitive. Tons of nuance for anyone who wants to take the time to explore gestures, swipes, etc.

I wish I could use Procreate for everything I do, but I mostly use it for penciling. I haven't been able to let go of Clip Studio's "feel" because, apparently, I'm fussy and annoying, even to myself!
 
So you like bending over and letting companies take you for a ride? Just because people are paying for it doesn’t mean it’s Better. Nobody likes subscription models and that’s aware talking to people.
just because companies are doing it doesn’t mean it’s right also. Companies are all jumping on that model with streaming. This app and that app. Most will fail and it’s just based out of greed. The older models of paying for software and getting upgrades year after year for a few is better to me. Or just keeping the software I have that’s been working for me for what I need. Not everyone wants 24 subscriptions every month because companies want more money.
I used to upgrade Photoshop every two years for $250. Now it is $10 a month, or $240 every two years. Not exactly ream city and that allows one to be always up to date with the latest version. If you upgraded yearly it would be a no-brainer. Plus one can always stop and restart at any point they want. Choices are good and this model happens to work for an awful lot of people.

If Serif ever stepped up their game and offered a DAM that would allow me to manage my photos on my iPad, MBP and desktop Windows PC like Lightroom does now, I'd give it a strong look. Until then, the Adobe model works great for my uses and I hardly feel bent over.
 
Are there really no other iPad Apps that does pencil well? I really don’t wanna buy into the subscription crap but would like to practise my pencil drawings digitally.
You can actually use Fresco without a paid subscription. And out of the probably 15 art apps I've tried on iPad, it is the only one that realistically simulates pencil drawing to my satisfaction.
 
I don't think anyone replied to this (apologies if I'm repeating stuff, though).

If you just want to practice pencil-drawings but don't want to shell out any dough, try MediBang Paint. It's free! And pretty great. If you can afford to pay $10, buy Procreate. I actually prefer the brush engine in MediBang Paint. That is, I have an affinity for the particular "feel" of ink brushes in MBP and Clip Studio Paint. Clip Studio is (in my opinion) the absolute best app for inking and comic illustration, but it's subscription-based. Not very pricey, but yeah, that bit sucks. I'm a pro artist, so it's worth it for me, especially because it's also exactly the same as the desktop app.

Digressing, Procreate is an excellent art app. Definitely worth the extremely reasonable one-time fee. Updates are free FOREVER. Procreate's interface is actually pretty amazing. Super slick and intuitive. Tons of nuance for anyone who wants to take the time to explore gestures, swipes, etc.

I wish I could use Procreate for everything I do, but I mostly use it for penciling. I haven't been able to let go of Clip Studio's "feel" because, apparently, I'm fussy and annoying, even to myself!

Procreate does weird things with the pencils while shading that I do not like. If you adjust the size of your primary stroke, Procreate does not proportionally adjust the size of the stroke when you tilt/shade. So you can have a tiny line when youre drawing, but when you tilt to shade, you still have a gigantic stroke to shade with.
It's just not natural at all.
 
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I used to upgrade Photoshop every two years for $250. Now it is $10 a month, or $240 every two years. Not exactly ream city and that allows one to be always up to date with the latest version. If you upgraded yearly it would be a no-brainer. Plus one can always stop and restart at any point they want. Choices are good and this model happens to work for an awful lot of people.

If Serif ever stepped up their game and offered a DAM that would allow me to manage my photos on my iPad, MBP and desktop Windows PC like Lightroom does now, I'd give it a strong look. Until then, the Adobe model works great for my uses and I hardly feel bent over.
I haven’t upgraded from cs6 and don’t see the need. I can get everything I do with that app. Did photoshop actually add new things you needed that weren’t on previous models?
 
I haven’t upgraded from cs6 and don’t see the need. I can get everything I do with that app. Did photoshop actually add new things you needed that weren’t on previous models?
Support for new cameras and lenses was the main reason I upgraded pre-subscription era.
 
Just some references: Affinity Designer & Photo now 10 USD (one-time) each after a 50% discount
I gave affinity Designer a try after having a somewhat good experience with Photo on Mac and iPad (still getting used to the tiny differences vs Photoshop), and was truly blown away... the personas, tools, corner-radius thingies, gradients HUD display, etc etc... I had never tried illustrator, photoshop was enough of a powerful but annoying beast to be looking for troubles with another sibling tool.
Yet with affinity it felt so familiar, Photo hasn’t not only been a jaw dropping performance and tools wise experience, it has made the journey so much more enjoyable (far from perfect to honest, there are scream provoking drawbacks) that it helped me open up to more related sibling tools.
By comparison, when I spend a day working with photoshop and after effects I don’t want to see my computer after work is over.
 
Procreate does weird things with the pencils while shading that I do not like. If you adjust the size of your primary stroke, Procreate does not proportionally adjust the size of the stroke when you tilt/shade. So you can have a tiny line when youre drawing, but when you tilt to shade, you still have a gigantic stroke to shade with.
It's just not natural at all.
Hmm. That sounds like a flaw in the design of a particular brush. That is, the brush designer set up a tipshape for a basic vertical brush, but didn't do the same for the sideways shading version—or at least didn't connect them properly. If a brush designer has been thorough, that really shouldn't happen. Max Ulichney, the maker of MaxPack brushes, is unbelievably detailed in his brush designs. He concentrates more on paint brushes than inks and pencils, but he's got a few of those, too.

His watercolor brushes are pretty incredible. I've never felt more "natural" digital brushes. He even has brushes that are capable of emulating the way certain real brushes will REDUCE the amount of paint when MORE pressure is applied.
 
Does anyone know if the apps work well on the new iPad Pro's with M2 chips? (Adobe states that the CS suite works on the updated Macbooks with M2 chips, but no word on if the CS suite is compatible with the new iPad Pro models.)
 
Man after reading everyone else's comments i gotta say i really miss the day i paid over $2500 for CS6. Yeah that was awesome. I really hate paying $30 a month instead of $2500 all at once.
 
Man after reading everyone else's comments i gotta say i really miss the day i paid over $2500 for CS6. Yeah that was awesome. I really hate paying $30 a month instead of $2500 all at once.

LOL

Software was mad expensive in those days and even more so in the nineties.

I don’t mind the subscription that I’m on if there are regular new features added that are really worthwhile, and there is the problem.

I’ve paid 20 euros a month for the Adobe Photoshop+Lightroom bundle for 10 years now.

That’s 2400 euros over 10 years.

But in those 10 years there have only been about two new features that were introduced.

So I do feel like I have overpaid. There’s nothing comparable to Photoshop for everything it does but if I had bought Photoshop for 800-900 euros (the price 10 years ago) and only upgraded once since then I would have saved over a grand.

Seems Adobe is taking the mick. Then there is Photoshop for iPad. They showed this off at WWDC in 2018 whatever and said the full version of Photoshop is coming for the iPad within a year or ‘soon’.

It’s now 2023 and they are nowhere close to it. Still no path tool, still no liquify, still no Pencil Hover support.

What a joke. It has less features than Photoshop did in 2003. 20 years ago!
 
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