thethirdshoe
macrumors newbie
I've been paying $19.99 a month for a year now for the entire Adobe Creative Cloud suite. Gotta love the student and teacher discount.
And you will be paying for it THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
Lucky you.
Adobe Offering Photoshop CC and Lightroom for $9.99/Month to All Users Through December 2 [Updated]
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And you will be paying for it THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
Lucky you.
I signed up. Right now it's cheaper than upgrade pricing was on PS and LR per year. I'm also looking for a backup plan to kick Adobe to the curb if need be. Onone might just be that alternative. And let's not forget it wasn't just Adobe who screwed the users but in my opinion supposed user advocates like Kellby who appeared to be advocating for Adobe.
You mean like your cable, iPhone, or electric bill?
I may as well sign up. I was going to buy LR5 anyway for $80, so this is like spreading it over 8 months. LR4 and PS6 will stay on my machine though.
Apple fanboy
macrumors Ivy Bridge
I to am against rental of software (or anything to be honest). Trouble is we are all now being asked to 'buy' our software this way now because these company's are getting fed up of all the pirates. Mark my words this is going to become the norm.
How the offer works is simple. They get you hooked on having the two software packages and then when your year is up, you find you don't want to give up the software that has become essential to your workflow. Or like a lot of people, you won't even notice your monthly subscription has just doubled.
How the offer works is simple. They get you hooked on having the two software packages and then when your year is up, you find you don't want to give up the software that has become essential to your workflow. Or like a lot of people, you won't even notice your monthly subscription has just doubled.
Exotic-Car Man
macrumors regular
Great! Now I have an easy, affordable option for my personal information to be leaked! I can't believe it; this is just what I was looking for!
pubwvj
macrumors 68000
This is a wonderful deal...FOR ADOBE.
$120/year
$600/5years
What a great deal for Adobe given that we don't really need to upgrade. This is their way of forcing people to keep paying them for the same thing.
Of course, it only works if you have cloud service. No internet? Sorry sucker!
$120/year
$600/5years
What a great deal for Adobe given that we don't really need to upgrade. This is their way of forcing people to keep paying them for the same thing.
Of course, it only works if you have cloud service. No internet? Sorry sucker!
Darkashnet
macrumors regular
I talked to the guy on their help chat about what happens when the 12 months are up. He said this isn't an "introductory offer". That price will continue after the 12 months are up. The price of that monthly offer can go up (naturally) but you won't transferred to the the one-app pricing (at £25 a month or whatever)
That's what he was saying, anyway.
At £8.78 a month, isn't too bad. (Although I'm really not liking the whole renting software direction these companies are taking.)
That's what he was saying, anyway.
At £8.78 a month, isn't too bad. (Although I'm really not liking the whole renting software direction these companies are taking.)
netnothing
macrumors 68040
The apps themselves are installed locally. They only have to phone-home once every 30 days to validate a current subscription. And they give a grace period if not.
-Kevin
Will do good
macrumors 6502a
Total rip off. Once they got you for the year and they'll charge as much as they want, because if not all your files are useless.
Adobe is a RIP off company.
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What's the difference on where the rental software is stored? You will end up paying for it forever and that's the problem.
Adobe is a RIP off company.
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What's the difference on where the rental software is stored? You will end up paying for it forever and that's the problem.
netnothing
macrumors 68040
This has nothing to do with pricing, I'm just saying that these aren't cloud based apps that require an internet connection to use. The poster I'm responding to said "No internet? Sorry sucker!".
And this differs from just about everything else how?
At the end of my Comcast contract, my prices went up.
At the end of my AT&T contract, my prices went up.
Seriously, if you think ANY subscription service isn't going to have prices go up at some point then you have a problem
I'm not saying I think it's right that Adobe doesn't allow full software purchases for those that don't upgrade......I think they should still sell non-subscription copies. But seriously....this is like any other subscription service, get in on a contract and then prices will go up at the end.
-Kevin
Major face palm. Just mail your wallet to me and we'll make this easy for everyone.
"I was going to buy LR5 anyway for $80, so this is like spreading it over 8 months."
So what happens after 8 months? You just normally buy LR every 8 months? You realize you will be paying $10 a month after 8 months for no reason so buy LR and send me the $10 a month after 8 months.
michelepri
macrumors 6502a
I signed up a few months ago at a relatively low price with some offer, and now I'm paying more. I'm not really sure how it works now. Not good.
ArtOfWarfare
macrumors G3
I'm getting new stuff with my cable, phone, and electric bill. I continue paying for it to financially support the infrastructure they depend on.
Apps have no such needs. If you have a major update, sure, offer it with a price tag and I'll think about it, but I always have the option of staying with the older version.
As for LR5 - yes, it's like spreading it over 8 months, and then paying again and again for the rest of forever.
Adobe's update schedule is pretty close to yearly now, so he might have been. I'm not "for" or "against" monthly licensing, but in some situations, it makes sense. Is there a large market for second-hand Adobe software? If someone needs to be on the latest and greatest, and legally obtain the software, as in the agency I work for, the monthly subscription fee makes sense.
However, the $75/year for the "business version" of the normally $50/year service is a ripoff.
You automatically assume I can't do the math? Snarky little fellow aren't ya. I bought LR3 and LR4, so it works about the same. Time will tell. It really depends on when LR 6 comes out and if they bother to include that when the upgrade comes, or leave you on LR 5 (because they don't have an LR CC it seems). I'm still researching the deal, namely what happens to my pricing when LR 6 comes out. Do I get the auto upgrade? Or will the raise my subscription? Hmmm.
It sounds like Adobe didn't attract enough of its core users to make the money they were hoping for with the original 9.99 deal so they're expanding this to everyone.
Those who say this is a good deal are either easily fooled or just don't know any better.
How much do you pay Adobe under the old program where you buy Photoshop and own it and then buy the upgrade about every three years. I think it works out to more than $120 per year.
If you are using PS for your business $120 can be written off completely where as in the old system you couldn't. So there is a slight tax advantage to renting that tilts the equation.
Now if this is a hobby, just go and buy PS Elements..
ericschmerick
macrumors regular
Man I'm surprised by all the sniping here. Don't really get it. This seems like a fine deal to me.
You already do essentially pay by the month for the software you "bought", unless you're a luddite. The fact of the matter is that all software has a shelf-life. Technology marches on.
How many of you, exactly, are still running Photoshop 7.0, which for the first time included Healing Brush (yes!), vector text (awesome!), and still supported Mac OS classic (weeeee!)?
Just some simple math, let's say your life played out like this:
Buy photoshop 7.0 in 2002 - $600
In 2005, you finally jump on the CS bandwagon with CS2 to get camera raw for your shiny new digital SLR, upgrade $200
In 2010, after a really long time, you finally have an INTEL MAC, so you jump to CS5 (universal), upgrade $200
Here we are in 2013, you'd like to upgrade, and you just really WISH they would give you the chance to outright buy CC - $200
That's $1200 over 144 months. Congrats, folks, that's $8.33 per month. Now, I get that some of you will say "you don't upgrade that much" - but REALLY? You didn't buy an Intel Mac yet? Or, you just have no use for "Healing Brush" anyway? "Vector Text Doesn't Matter to me". Give me a break.
Two pretty awesome pieces of software, always up to date, for $10 per month is a pretty good deal in my book.
You already do essentially pay by the month for the software you "bought", unless you're a luddite. The fact of the matter is that all software has a shelf-life. Technology marches on.
How many of you, exactly, are still running Photoshop 7.0, which for the first time included Healing Brush (yes!), vector text (awesome!), and still supported Mac OS classic (weeeee!)?
Just some simple math, let's say your life played out like this:
Buy photoshop 7.0 in 2002 - $600
In 2005, you finally jump on the CS bandwagon with CS2 to get camera raw for your shiny new digital SLR, upgrade $200
In 2010, after a really long time, you finally have an INTEL MAC, so you jump to CS5 (universal), upgrade $200
Here we are in 2013, you'd like to upgrade, and you just really WISH they would give you the chance to outright buy CC - $200
That's $1200 over 144 months. Congrats, folks, that's $8.33 per month. Now, I get that some of you will say "you don't upgrade that much" - but REALLY? You didn't buy an Intel Mac yet? Or, you just have no use for "Healing Brush" anyway? "Vector Text Doesn't Matter to me". Give me a break.
Two pretty awesome pieces of software, always up to date, for $10 per month is a pretty good deal in my book.
The difference is that some people mistakenly think that the software only runs if there's an internet connection each time it is launched.
While that may be true, a huge number of people don't need the latest and greatest. No longer an option to not pay for an upgrade you don't need.
And how much do you pay Adobe under the old program where you buy Photoshop and own it and then don't buy all the upgrades?
ericschmerick
macrumors regular
And how's your powerPC Mac running these days?
You're under the impression that you need to buy all the upgrades for it to run on an intel mac? Think about that.
It is a great deal for us as long a Adobe keep the prices reasonable. I upgraded every second version and it works out to much more than $10 per month. In this case, I can always keep updated and get it for cheaper at the same time.
hvfsl
macrumors 68000
Well I went from CS1 to CS5, so I don't upgrade even that much. But the biggest problem with this is that you are giving all control to Adobe, who at any time can jack up the prices and you will just have to smile and take it.
For some (mainly businesses) renting is the best option, but for others it isn't and they should really offer users a choice. For students it will just force people to pirate as the costs have gone up massively for them. As for me, I will never buy an Adobe product again and I look forward to the day someone finally comes up with a decent PS alternative.
ericschmerick
macrumors regular
No, perhaps you should read my post above. I'm under the impression that that is a reasonable upgrade schedule, and it still works out to $8.33 per month (just for Photoshop). So basically, I have no idea what your talking about.
Even if you were to buy ($600) and then upgrade ($200) ONCE in TEN YEARS, you will have had a cost of $6.66 per month for your software ($800 / 120).
If that makes no sense to you, then maybe you should just log off compuserve, shut down your 56k modem, and go spend some more time restocking your survival shed.
So by your math, it IS cheaper to buy than to rent, on your upgrade schedule.
Furthermore, you assume that you will get this $10/month in perpetuity. From the terms:
After the first 12 months, we will automatically renew your contract based on the current price of the offering.
Let's say they keep it at $19.99/mo, the current price. Over 144 months you will pay $2760. Quite a bit more than your $1200 above! That's assuming they keep the $19.99/mo price. Raise your hand if you think Adobe will NOT raise the price over the next 12 years. I shudder to think what the price will be once Adobe has a good subscriber base going.
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