Adobe Revives Premiere for Mac

[GregA2]

Not Premiere- Premiere Pro. There's a HUGE difference.

Then I learned that nested sequences weren't available until v.2 WTF!?

You learned WRONG. Premiere Pro has had nested sequences from the beginning. It also has many other pro-level features like support for uncompressed 10-bit video, extensive color correction tools, 32-bit-per-channel color processing, serial device control, waveform and vectorscope monitors, and many others. It also has 5.1 channel audio editing built in.
The integration with other Adobe apps is also much better than before. You can open a Premiere pro project in After Effects and the nested sequences become nested comps. The motion controls in PPro are now just like AE, and they also carry over. In the newest version of the Production studio, you can now bring an AE comp into Premiere Pro without having to render it first. And you can bring a Photoshop image into Premiere Pro without having to create an alpha channel first, and the transparency will be recognized- as well as all layer styles applied to it.
Premiere Pro was used to edit the film "Dust to Glory" which came out last summer. It was also used to capture the HDCAM footage for Superman Returns. I read somewhere it was also used for video on a recent Madonna tour. This is not the same Premiere you knew and loved (or hated) before. The title of this thread is misleading- They are not bringing back the Mac version of Premiere... They are bringing Premiere Pro to the Mac for the first time.

 

[NickFalk]

You learned WRONG. Premiere Pro has had nested sequences from the beginning.

Could be, could be - if so, my bad.

I do however stick by my claim that Adobe have oversold Premiere many times over, I've experienced this myself and got stung really badly. It will take something really special for Adobe to lure me back to Premiere as my main editing-app. The integration with the other Adobe apps sounds truly wonderfull though.

Despite my feelings towards Premiere in general I am really excited about the news. No the least because the whole Suite is amazing value for money. Finally I won't have to pay full price for both After Effects and Photoshop. I also get to check if there is a full-blown alternative to DVD Studio Pro in there. Heck, I'll probably even give Premiere Pro a try when I get my hands on it.

 

[Digitalclips]

Another app that is intel only...

I wouldn't have guessed that the PowerPC would be abandoned so fast by Adobe. I am not impressed...

groovebuster

Oh come on cheer up! Look I admit CS2 and Intel Mac is a sore point however, but for the Intel move Apple would be going down the pan about now. Move with the times and be happy. OS X which is really what Apple (plus great hardware of course) is all about and OS X on Intel moves Apple forward and saves us from an all Windows world (ok and Linux). Griping about the CPU is rediculous, heck I have several old pre Power PC Macs (remember the moans about the 'new' Power PC from Luddites?) as well as several Power PC Macs (like Dual G5s) and they are great fun to dust off once in a while but after powering up and using for a while I can't believe I ever used them .. OK the Dual G5s are still sweet . Now is the time to put yours with the other antiques and go buy a new Intel Mac after MW, hell I bet the quad or maybe 8 cores will blaze even CS2 in emulation . Counting the days to CS3 ... and AAPL $110

 

[Digitalclips]

You learned WRONG. Premiere Pro has had nested sequences from the beginning. It also has many other pro-level features like support for uncompressed 10-bit video, extensive color correction tools, 32-bit-per-channel color processing, serial device control, waveform and vectorscope monitors, and many others. It also has 5.1 channel audio editing built in.
The integration with other Adobe apps is also much better than before. You can open a Premiere pro project in After Effects and the nested sequences become nested comps. The motion controls in PPro are now just like AE, and they also carry over. In the newest version of the Production studio, you can now bring an AE comp into Premiere Pro without having to render it first. And you can bring a Photoshop image into Premiere Pro without having to create an alpha channel first, and the transparency will be recognized- as well as all layer styles applied to it.
Premiere Pro was used to edit the film "Dust to Glory" which came out last summer. It was also used to capture the HDCAM footage for Superman Returns. I read somewhere it was also used for video on a recent Madonna tour. This is not the same Premiere you knew and loved (or hated) before. The title of this thread is misleading- They are not bringing back the Mac version of Premiere... They are bringing Premiere Pro to the Mac for the first time.

I am glad to hear it's not the Mac version they are brining back version lol. I edited two years worth of ESPN shows on a Quadra 840 with Premiere 1.0 (or was it 0.9?) through some higher number before graduating to a Media 100. I still wake up sweating after nightmares about making one just one small, last change and ... CRASH! Losing three days work. It only happened once i should add, after that we sat and waited daily for DLT tape back ups to be made from the massive 8 GIG RAID ... OK, I can laugh now (now it is day light!). Oh and now I remember, did someone say the audio is of sync? aaaggghh! Ah, happy days

 

[westonharvey]

Oh come on cheer up! Look I admit CS2 and Intel Mac is a sore point however, but for the Intel move Apple would be going down the pan about now. Move with the times and be happy. OS X which is really what Apple (plus great hardware of course) is all about and OS X on Intel moves Apple forward and saves us from an all Windows world (ok and Linux). Griping about the CPU is rediculous, heck I have several old pre Power PC Macs (remember the moans about the 'new' Power PC from Luddites?) as well as several Power PC Macs (like Dual G5s) and they are great fun to dust off once in a while but after powering up and using for a while I can't believe I ever used them .. OK the Dual G5s are still sweet . Now is the time to put yours with the other antiques and go buy a new Intel Mac after MW, hell I bet the quad or maybe 8 cores will blaze even CS2 in emulation . Counting the days to CS3 ... and AAPL $110

Not sure it's ridiculous to gripe about this. A lot of people recently spent $3000-$5000 (or more) on an "antiquity" that would be more than capable of running this software.

 

[50548]

Competition = Awesome.

This is great news, and further shows Adobe's commitment to the Mac platform.

A good way to begin (a bit early) MWSF.

Nope, this just means they have to eat a lot of crow following the fantastic growth of the Mac's market share...FCP will keep reigning in the Apple platform...shove it, Adobe!

 

[ShiggyMiyamoto]

Nope, this just means they have to eat a lot of crow following the fantastic growth of the Mac's market share...FCP will keep reigning in the Apple platform...shove it, Adobe!

That's not necessarily true. Before Final Cut Pro (or Express for that matter), and iMovie came out Premiere was king, and it was the industry standard for video editing and [post] production. I for one like it better than FCP and Express partly because I grew up on it. I briefly tried FCP and I couldn't figure it out. I tried to apply my Premiere skills to it, but that didn't work. I can see that you're an FCP fanboy/fangirl, but give Adobe some credit. They've been holding out strong in the graphics and web design department, and now they feel with the new Intel Mac platform that Premiere is ready to run on Macs again.

 

[NickFalk]

...Before Final Cut Pro (or Express for that matter), and iMovie came out Premiere was king, and it was the industry standard for video editing and [post] production.

Sorry, but that's pure nonsense. Admitidly Adobe jumped on the NLE-bandawagon quite early but "standard" me think not. The standard have "always" been and is still Avid. Premiere, prior to "pro" was always an advanced toy for advanced hobbyist with a few wedding-videographers thrown into the mix.

Final Cut 1 really put Adobe to shame and Adobe knows it. I still remember comming from Premiere 5.1c to FCP 2. It was in a word "unbelievable". Earthshattering. Really, comparable to comming from windows 3.11 to OSX in functionality, stability and user friendlyness...

That's why the threw out the complete code-base for Premiere and started over with the "Pro" version.

 

[failsafe1]

That's not necessarily true. Before Final Cut Pro (or Express for that matter), and iMovie came out Premiere was king, and it was the industry standard for video editing and [post] production. I for one like it better than FCP and Express partly because I grew up on it. I briefly tried FCP and I couldn't figure it out. I tried to apply my Premiere skills to it, but that didn't work. I can see that you're an FCP fanboy/fangirl, but give Adobe some credit. They've been holding out strong in the graphics and web design department, and now they feel with the new Intel Mac platform that Premiere is ready to run on Macs again.

Avid is king and FCP is a distant second in the world I work in. The pros around me are TV station guys who work on Macs with Avid. They would use FCP if they had to but don't need to switch at the moment.

 

[Sdashiki]

Avid = not same ballpark as FCP if you want to say "what is truly PRO"

ONLY because of the price differences.

Avid = FCP in terms of what it can/cant do, well almost

I mean, Avid is very very $, and should be for what it can do. but FCP can do pretty much the same thing, cheaper, but it only runs on OSX...

 

[virus1]

i am expecting a lot from apple at NAB this year because last year was so disappointing.

 

[shellbryson]

First Adobe canceled Premiere due to "small Mac marketshare for the product"

Now they release a new version only for Intel Macs, what is presently a small percentage of the Mac installed base.

A piece of the puzzle is missing.

There is a turn around. There is a larger percentage of machines being sold now... that's why there are so many Apple stores opening this year. It's become very "cool" to own anything Apple, on the back of the storming success of iPods. Apple get a lot of positive press. Yes their machines are expensive, but they are very desirable. I think Vista will drive a lot of new folks to Apple too.