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Don't forget the free Moviemaker from Microsoft and they were offering Movie oneX or X-one before XP came out
 
Originally posted by zim
Avid already has this posted on their site... there is a fourm to fill out....

http://www.avid.com/forms/info.asp?iTrackingID=7682

personally, I do not like avids methods of business (having done design work for them) and have not found anything unique about their software strategies, final cut pro kills their avid xpress (my opinion).

I don't know what kind of consumer support avid expects to see from this free app due to that most general consumers that use apps like iMovie, are not looking around the web for solutions because they are novice users and most likely have never heard of avid.

But how does FCP stand up to Avid's F/MC, Symphony or DS systems? ;)

I think DV Free is probably going to targeted towards the same demographic that free Pro-Tools LE is. Someone a step above the common user that would only use iMovie a few times.
 
I love Adobe products and still use Windows all day at work (iBook at home), and appreciate good Windows programs.

But that Adobe program doesn't even hold a candle to iPhoto. The layout of it isn't as "friendly" as iPhoto, and just doesn't seem as intuitive. iPhoto is definitely one of my favorite apps on a Mac, and I have yet to see an equivalent for Windows, or an equal 3rd party program for a Mac.
 
I agree. I think the target is the kid that would buy FCPro in his dreams, would buy FCExpress if he had $300, but until then, he's going to use whatever he can get for free. Then, when he's experienced and needs the "real deal", he may go to an Avid product because he has become familiar with the interface.

I think that's the same idea that ProTools and Maya have.
 
You really can't compare a street car to a formula one racer.

Software to software I think FCP is straight on with AVID any version, discreet has a line of stuff that is quite impressive.

I would have FCP or Avid DVexpress any old day, but for a Windows newbie the Avid product might be easier to learn.

I think Avid DVex lacks alot of the of the controlability that is available in FCP. I've used both of them but for fast turnaround a still prefer the Media composer, mainly becuase it is a no nonsense easy to use hardware machine. I've yet to use a full blown loaded dual 1.25 FCP machine.

But hardware wise (where the analogy come in) you can't stick a G4 dual against a purpose built hardware machine. Even if you add the hardware cards available you won't see the same results as a the purpsoe built machine.

The AVID symphony running on NT does suck but that is the software and not the hardware. It is worth the time using the slower FCP loaded than to deal with a NT machine crashing video.

Of course as the engineers say , it is all in who sets up the machine and keep it running. Any editor should be used for editing only, if you start adding games and browsers and excess Adobe products your going to run into issues.
 
Photoshop Album isn't just an iPhoto copycat

I like iPhoto a lot, but PS Album does some fascinating things that iPhoto can't. You can create tags (people, location, etc.) and apply them to photos, then search for photos using those tags. It's pretty damn cool.

It will be interesting to see the reaction -- I hope Apple looks at it closely and incorporates some of the ideas.
 
Avid DV Free SOUNDS GOOD but...

I went to the Avid site and filled in my name to be informed when the free app will come out. Personally, I've been trained on Avid but like FCP better. I am open to feedback about this. I think the people at Apple have done a tremendous job coming up with FCP. I use it for all my DV work.

:D
 
Re: Photoshop Album isn't just an iPhoto copycat

Originally posted by varkie
I like iPhoto a lot, but PS Album does some fascinating things that iPhoto can't. You can create tags (people, location, etc.) and apply them to photos, then search for photos using those tags. It's pretty damn cool.

It will be interesting to see the reaction -- I hope Apple looks at it closely and incorporates some of the ideas.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you could do the same thing (or similar thing) on iPhoto. . .:confused:
 
Re: Photoshop Album isn't just an iPhoto copycat

Originally posted by varkie
I like iPhoto a lot, but PS Album does some fascinating things that iPhoto can't. You can create tags (people, location, etc.) and apply them to photos, then search for photos using those tags. It's pretty damn cool.

You can do this already. It’s that little grid in Organize view with the boxes labeled “Favorite,” “Family,” “Kids,” Pets,” etc. There are blank ones, too, so you can add more categories as you need them. Select a picture, make sure that the little switch to the left of the grid is set to “Assign” and just click on the categories that you’d like the picture to be placed into. Yes, “categories” -- multiple. You don’t have to limit it to just one. Then, to find them, set the switch to “Find” and click on the category/ies that you’re looking for.

So let’s say that you take a picture of your niece playing with her new pet puppy at Christmas. Assign the picture to the categories “Family,” “Kids,” “Pets,” and “Holiday.” Then, when you’re looking for that picture later on, click on any of those categories and that picture, along with any others that match, will either appear alone in the preview pane, or if you have your pictures sorted by rolls and collapsed, the rolls that have pictures that meet that criteria will appear by themselves. If you click on multiple categories, iPhoto finds just the pictures that meet all of those criteria. So if you click on “Family” and every picture you took at your family reunion last summer pops up, then click on “Kids” to narrow it down some. Still too many? Click on “Pets.” You get the idea.

You’re looking forward to a feature that you already have in iPhoto 1.1.
 
Re: "free"

Originally posted by gotohamish
you had to remember they have never been free downloads for iMovie and iDVD - you got them bundled in the system - either in a box, or with a Mac.
Hmmmm, I downloaded iMovie2 for OS X for free when it came out and for some reason (probably the absence of FireWire) I didn't get it with my iBook 366 SE. Now iDVD has NEVER been a free d/l, but Steve stated the size was prohibitive for a d/l.
 
FCP4 and express

I think Apple should use it's developing resources by building Final Cut Pro 4 and then rename FCP3 as express, instead of spending developer's time to build a slimmed down version of it.
 
Re: FCP4 and express

Originally posted by Pedro Estarque
I think Apple should use it's developing resources by building Final Cut Pro 4 and then rename FCP3 as express, instead of spending developer's time to build a slimmed down version of it.


If you think about it that makes no sense what so ever.


Lethal
 
Re: FCP4 and express

Originally posted by Pedro Estarque
I think Apple should use it's developing resources by building Final Cut Pro 4 and then rename FCP3 as express, instead of spending developer's time to build a slimmed down version of it.

From what I can tell, it's not a slimmed down version. Features are just off. It only works with DV footage instead of uncompressed, mjpeg, etc. And it doesn't have the full blown Davinci color corrector. I don't think they wasted much developer time. Probably wasted more time marketing and printing.
 
Re: Re: Re: FCP4 and express

Originally posted by Pedro Estarque


why not?

Why would you market pro level software to consumers? Why give them things they would never, ever, ever use or need? Why severely damage the credibility and reputation of the Final Cut Pro name by making the "last version" a consumer product? Why cut into FCP 4 sales by dropping FCP 3 into the bargin bin?


Lethal
 
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