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why is the laptop so thick?!?! :eek:

Haven't you been keeping up with the iPhone news? Thinness is unwanted. Someone might be able to bend it.

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This is good news man. I hate the current "Remote". I have always wished it'd provide the same grid of buttons, or somehow replicated what was being displayed on the TV. Having a huge field where "swiping" around doesn't even work as well as a simple "up/down/left/right" button. I hate it.
 
In that way they can expand apple TV controls back to android / WP devices also. In case they launch proper television set, then it can address broader set of end-users - including the ones that are not part of apple ecosystem.
 
This patent better have been filed before Chromecast came out, cause this is how you use Netflix with Chromecast. You use the native video browser for the device (phone or laptop) and it is played on TV.
 
The only issue I have with Apple TV is that it is inconvenient to switch from Cable (HDMI 1) to the Apple TV (HDMI 4). I wish Apple would just add some kind of portal to allow users to watch cable through the Apple TV.

If I'm not mistaken I think the Xbox One does this.
 
l Cant believe that they are trying to patent this When its been available on multiple platforms for years
 
The TV rumors have dried out and fizzled. Reverted back to being about a box.

And for a good reason, Apple doesn't want to compete in that space, that market is a race to the bottom.

ding ding ding. Actual TV manufacturing is a horrible space to try and get involved with.

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The only issue I have with Apple TV is that it is inconvenient to switch from Cable (HDMI 1) to the Apple TV (HDMI 4). I wish Apple would just add some kind of portal to allow users to watch cable through the Apple TV.

If I'm not mistaken I think the Xbox One does this.

very good point. A pass-through.
 
Thin bezels!!

Anyone else notice that the iPhone and iPad shown in the patent had asynchronous bezels?! Home button and larger bottom bezel retained but very thin top bezels. Are they usually depicted in this way in the patents illustrations or is this a possible nod towards furture iDevice design???
 
Xbox One Smartglass

The Xbox One Smartglass app seems to do exactly what this patent application is trying to show.
 
Anyone else notice that the iPhone and iPad shown in the patent had asynchronous bezels?! Home button and larger bottom bezel retained but very thin top bezels. Are they usually depicted in this way in the patents illustrations or is this a possible nod towards furture iDevice design???

And the laptop has no trackpad! another new design!
:rolleyes:
 
Wish the ATV (4?) would be closer to release. I ended up grabbing an Amazon Fire TV this week. Still keeping the ATV for the ease and reliability of airplay from iOS device. And in general, if you use it the way Apple wants you to, it's perfectly fine. I do often get audio/video out of synch and have to restart, but that's not too much of a pain.

I like having a Home Theatre setup that doesn't need a whole computer. Small footprint, low electricity.

But I also like using the device not how it's intended. That is, I like to stream off my Airport USB HD, and I like to use XBMC. But it's gotten to the point where the ATV2 just couldn't handle either one very well any more.

So I'll use my Fire TV for the "extras". But I'll be hoping to trade it in for an new ATV in 2015!
 
neat.....

So iOS was simple before, but it appears after 7 years in the works it suddenly can have have a fully fledged second screen ?

This, by the way, in response to "we don't want a full desktop on iOS."

What changed their minds ? A larger screen, we still have to touch.

Have u ever tried windows clicking the "Start menu" on a phone over a remote connection ? :p Dam thing just doesn't work.

I'd rather use the old "clicker" ... or Bluetooth keyboard, i've actually gotten used to doing my passwords this way now.
 
So, I think Airplay would be simpler to use than this... cuz you can just control whatever natively on your phone/pad and mirror it onto the big screen. And since Apple TV doesn't have its own storage space, I don't see it having any advantage over Airplay.
 
Anyone that has a current TiVo or the TiVo stream connected to the previous generation TiVo already has this exact same functionality and more. Browse any of your TiVos on the phone. The interface is in the phone. Watch selections in the phone or TV, whether it be a channel or recording. Watch them over LTE too from anywhere. This is not a patentable ideA.
 
Seriously bored with the AppleTV leaks now. Either get on and release the darn thing or upgrade the existing set top box to be more useful.
 
does the cloud in the middle mean that the "remote app" will need an internet connection, and that it will send data to external servers etc, in order to function?

Could be that some users don't have their mobile devices connected to local networks, yet want that control anyway. I'll sometimes switch off WiFi just because one network is irritating to use, forgetting to re-enable it when I get home; would be happier if the :apple:TV and iPhone would just find some way to communicate without the annoying "why doesn't this work...huh...OH, right...Home->Home->Settings->WiFi->On...wait..." sequence.
 
The TV rumors have dried out and fizzled. Reverted back to being about a box.

Not as much as we could hope. Gene rolls them out once a year cause he refuses to give up. Like the broken clock he seems to think if he keeps repeating them eventually it will happen.

And for a good reason, Apple doesn't want to compete in that space, that market is a race to the bottom.

not as much as one would think. The tech is getting very huge. I think the real race is the 'smart' part of the equation and the issue of digital distribution of files for TVs. If we get back to thinking of TVs as dumb displays and forget about adding tricks to make them smarter it would be a very good thing in my opinion. I really don't want to pay extra for added crap I will never use. I mean yeah it's great that you want to add the MLB smart tv app with a free first year subscription for me if I buy your tv but I hate baseball. It's boring crap. I will never watch it. But you won't take that off and just give me $100-150 off the TV.

I could see Apple making a 'tv' in the form of a display with enough kick it could be used as one. And I would love it. give me a flatish Cinema Display with HDMI inputs and options for 1080p or 4k depending on what I am hooking up to it. Heck give it the guts to support 3D even. For the prices you pay for movies on iTunes you should get all those versions if such exists. Add to the system a box that can provide them and it's a winner. Add all the extras from the disks and a system to cash your physical disks in for a discounted price to buy the digital and many folks would clean house. Especially if tv shows were included.

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Why not make it so the cable boxes hdmi out goes into the appleTV? Then make it so cable TV is an actual channel on the appleTV and then make so the user would be able to control the cable box with their phone/iPad/computer.

Too clumsy. And Cable box interfaces are often crap.

ideally what Apple seems to want is for the Apple TV to be the cable box. Which would be great cause many users have to pay a rental fee for that box that is more than $99 a year. And if Apple can get companies like HBO to allow direct subscriptions without cable for their apps or even to put their shows on the store right away, even better.

An idea that my cuz had floated that I thought would be novel would be if Apple could get all shows, worldwide, on the stores faster (and globally) and do a kind of lala thing. for those that never used it, lala.com had a ten cents streaming only access to songs. Or a link to buy it from iTunes. Imagine if you could subscribe to a show streaming only but have access from airing time through the season. Basically your 'pass' would be good until the next season starts'. And there could be an option to pay the difference and buy a permanent copy at any time. If you don't watch a ton of TV that could be a better way than slapping down $50 a month for a cable subscription. Especially if what you really watch is on channels like HBO. I would much rather spend $10 a season to stream Game of Thrones as it airs than $75 a month for cable I don't watch and HBO.

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Actual TV manufacturing is a horrible space to try and get involved with.

Very true. Mainly because of the number of established names. Apple would have to do something insane to get notice in that crowd. And there isn't the tech at this point to really wow folks. So why do it. Let those kids keep their toys and their fight and work around it.
 
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