Adventures in Android land (don't try this at home)

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  1. postpc, Jan 25, 2016
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    postpc macrumors regular

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    Soo..tinkering with my Raspberry PI, somehow the idea formed in my mind it would be nice to have a Linux (Android) phone to play with, with all the flexibility and freedom that supposedly comes with it.

    In the last three weeks, I sold my iPhone 6 plus, ordered a LG Nexus 5X, a Samsung 6 Edge Plus and a Blackberry Priv (sorry Amazon). And, today I finally settled for an iPhone 6S Plus. Boy, not all is well in Apple land, but using Android feels like being covered in **** up to your neck.

    I went for the Nexus 5X because they say it offers the purest Android experience and little to no bloatware. The first bummer was the shoddy build quality that thing creaks like my long dead grandmother. Every time you move your hand the phone groans as if its going to fall apart every minute. I'm not kidding you its that bad. The next let down was the camera, which according to the interwebs finally brings Android cameras up to par with Apple phone cameras. Thats a blatant lie, my iPhone 4S used to take better picture that that POS. One of the photoes I took featured two people skiing and they didn't have facial features whatsoever, and it wasn't motion blur. Its still creeping me out. At the end of day 1 with the phone I had lost all confidence using the camera, because you never knew if the camera got the shot right. I never had that feeling with the iPhone.

    I used to think of Android having a understated and somewhat professional look, but that sure has changed with their latest release, even iOS looks converservative next to this eye cancer inducing atrocity.

    Next up up was the Galaxy 6 Edge Plus and I gotta say its sure does have a nice screen. The curved screen looks nice and is accentuated by Samsung's choice of wallpapers, it feels a bit like looking into a 3D device. The camera is decent as well, I really like the double homebutton shortcut to bring it up even if the phone is locked. But thats where the niceties end. The iPhone 6 is somewhat slippy if you use if without a case, but the Edge is 10 times worse when it comes to ergonomices. Its not just slippy but also its really uncomfortable holding that thing, because of the slim edges. It comes with Touchwiz, Samsungs pimped up version of Android, and boy its one
    feature overloaded mess. Also they couldn't just leave the edges to stand as a design feature all by itself, they had to cramp some weired functionality into this which of course nobody uses because its totally uses and just makes things ten times more complicated.

    The last Android device I tried was a Blackberry Priv. I always held Blackberry in rather high regard, I don't know why but its always been like this but after 2 days with the Priv thats a thing of the past. First of all, that thing get hots, I mean really hot I thought the damn thing is going to explode right into my face when I set it up, but even later every time I did something with the phone for more than 5 minutes to would start heating up. The back is creaky like the 5X. The slider sure is nice, but the physical keyboard is really just a gimmick these days, its fun to use for the first 10 minutes but starts to get old really fast because its actually a lot slower to type that way. The camera features 18MP but its 18 really poor MP, and the photos looks like crap especially
    in low light situations.

    All that freedom Android promises comes at a price, that is being exposed to Google 24/7. It gets really creepy after a while I'm not super paranoid when it comes to my privacy but using an Android feels like being monitored all day long. I logged off my Google account every day in Chrome but sooner or later the browser would log me back in all by itself. I guess you can switch this off somehow but the setting is hidden somewhere in their god forsaken privacy tool. Its completey intransparent and complicated to use, and I assume they did that on purpose.

    The app selection still sucks, Sky Safari didn't work properly on any of the three devices. The notification spam is super annoying, every other minute the damn thing starts flashing, beeping or whatever it does trying to get your attention its a bloody nightmare.

    The decision to end my Android adventures finally came when I tried to paste a simple URL from Chrome in the blackberry hub, which didn't work. I mean seriously its 2016 and they can't implement copy/paste reliably??

    I packed the crap up & sent it back this morning and drove to the nearest Apple store to pick up my new iPhone 6S plus. It feels good to be home.
     
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    The post was entertaining and fun to read.

    Some stuff I think you're exaggerating a bit...BB Priv battery so hot it might explode, etc.
     
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    Just a comment on the build quality of the 5x. It's a $350 phone so you can't expect iPhone like build. It's literally half the price of an iPhone.
     
  5. geoff5093 macrumors 68020

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    Comparing a $600+ iPhone to a $300 Android phone. You realize compromises need to be made right? Why not compare it to the Nexus 6P which has a metal unibody design and is much better than the cheap 5X.
    How is it Android's fault that apps you install are giving you notifications? Don't blame Android for what your accounts are pushing down. I never even heard of Sky Safari, but why not use Chrome like an ordinary user?

    I don't get the point of this post. You bought 3 Android phones with the intent to hate on them. You talk only about the weakness and not about the pros.
     
  6. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    I took the whole thing as sarcasm.

    That being said, he didn't get the BEST Android phone on the market, and the iPhone 4S does not take better picture than the Nexus 5X.
     
  7. postpc thread starter macrumors regular

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    The 5X is more like 480€ over here (32 GB), and yes I'm aware I can't expect iPhone materials and build quality, but what I can expect is decent build quality for that money. As for the photos, obviously I was exaggerting a bit, but with the iPhone 90% of the shots are ok, the per centage was a lot lower with the 5X.

    5x.jpg
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    Not at all, I was seriously thinking about jumping ship. As a matter of fact I have a look at Android phones every 2-3 years just to see where they at, but I'm not impressed. I wanted to like the Priv, I really did, but being exposed to iPhones for the last 8 years kinda spoils you.
     
  8. geoff5093 macrumors 68020

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    That photo can not be straight from a 5X, because it is horrible. I mean that photo looks worse than a 2006 camera phone, the back skier is just a giant blob of tan. Either something happened to this photo, or you have a malfunctioning 5X. Here are two samples I took on my 6P (same camera sensor):

    Rear Camera:

    [​IMG]

    Front Camera:

    [​IMG]

    In any case, I had the Note 5 before this, and an iPhone 6s before that, and I can say that the Note 5 took better photos 100% of the time. This is a sample photo from my Note 5:

    [​IMG]Untitled by Geoff Johnson, on Flickr

    And here's a sample from my iPhone 6s:

    [​IMG]
     
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    I think the 6p would have left a different impression of Android for you. Nothing compares to the 6p when it comes to Android devices. I'm using a Nexus 6 right now, and while it is not this year's flagship Nexus, still performs looks, and feels better than the 5x. I personally really enjoy Android and for me to go back to iOS would require some serious persuasion haha :D
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    Like this simply because of the Subie. Nice car! :D
     
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    Android ? No thanks....

    Being tied in Google ecosystem is the worst thing could happen to me.
     
  11. Flow39 macrumors 68000

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    What don't you like about the Google ecosystem? Just curious (this isn't a troll question, nor am I looking to start an argument) :)
     
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    easy answer: Google :D

    I'm doing my best to avoid them mining my data, and they are trying hard.
    You clearly are entitled to have a different opinion, but I really can't understand how people can support a company like Google.
    DOn't get me wrong: Apple isn't a charity institution, it still is a business company, but Apple's target is to sell their product, hardware and software. This through customer satisfaction (most of the time).
    Google doesn't care about that: they don't sell you anything, not even services (they are almost all free of charge). They just want you to sign up on their ecosystem to monetize on your data.
    I don't like it, on principle.
    I don't like Google literally infesting the web with their data tracking code.
    Really, I am an Apple supporter for sure, but I like many Microsoft's products.
    Not Google....
    Google is the least ethic company on the planet.

    My two cents.

    (no argument intended)
     
  13. Elisha macrumors 6502a

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    Ignorance must be bliss. The tech world can go on without Apple, but without Google, we will be back to the dark ages of information!
     
  14. patt2k macrumors regular

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    I actually like Google and most of them services i just switched from Android to iOS (6S) 64GB and so far I am not complaining but I do miss few things until I can JB the iPhone. Yes their tracking/data collection is evil but services are good.
     
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    Android and iOS are both excellent operating systems. I own a Galaxy S6 for almost 4 months now and I couldn't be happier with it. I came from an iPhone 6 and, while that was a great phone too, I was really amazed by how fast and stable the S6 was and still is. Touchwiz is light skin now which improves the fluidity part a lot. I still love how this phone feels in the hand every time I pick it up. It has a beautiful QHD screen, excellent camera and good enough battery life. I love how it fully charges in just 1hour and 15 minutes.

    I'm from Holland and in my friends/family/colleague circle there are probably around 80% Android users with a lot of flagship phone owners (Galaxy S6, Note 4/Note 5, LG G4, HTC One M8/M9, Xperia Z3 etc.) and they're very happy with their phones. A lot of them are former iPhone users but they told me they prefer Android, like myself. On this forum I see a lot of Android bashing but imo that's just unfair. Android has made some real progress over the years and has grown into a great and mature OS.
     
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    Yeah those are some definite reasons to not like Google. I don't know how I feel either way personally. I think that Google makes amazing services such as Gmail and Google Search/Google Now, but these services wouldn't be great if they didn't get personal data from us to make the products better. It's kind of a game of give a little take a little with Google IMO.

    Apple, like you said, only offers Hardware, Software, and physical products to make money. They don't mine your information. This is a definite positive of Apple products, but I will say one thing--Apple's services are fairly bad in comparison to Google's services IMO.

    Either way, it just comes down to personal preference like you said, and that's all that really matters. :)
     
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    It is ok that you don't want to use Google's services because of privacy concerns but I think you are over reacting. "Worst thing that can happen to me" lol.

    When Google paid Apple $1 Billion to be the default search engine, that means iOS users are the product. When Apple "gifted" everyone a free U2 album, what really happened was U2 paid Apple to spam iTunes users.

    You are worried about Google trying to make money off of their users but Apple does the same thing.
     
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    Enjoy your spied and tracked tech world by Google.
    I wouldn't buy anything running their operative system anymore.

    Services as just a bait to have your data.
    Are you ok with that ? Enjoy it.
    I'm not.

    I'm ok with commercial companies being ..... commercial companies. I have no problem with Apple, Google or Microsoft making money with customers, since that is the only way they can keep offering products I need.
    I'm having problem with the way Google is doing that.
    Over reacting? Maybe, but I really want a Google free internet .....
     
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    Time to get the tin foil out
     
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    What is the best android phone on the market?

    I would have thought that he nexus 5X and edge plus would have been up there.
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    In my experience the iPhone takes better pictures off the bat but Samsung phones always took better pictures if you were willing to take a few shots. The 6S plus has a good camera but damn looking at those pictures makes me miss my Samsung phones. Photography used to be a hobby when I had Samsung phones. I used to take pictures of scenery and such and some days I'd just go out specifically to take shots. Now I only use my iPhone to take pictures if I'm out somewhere or I'm on holiday or it's a special occasion.
     
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    I have been a Googleaholic for the last 12 years. I use Google, Gmail, Picasa, Google News, Drive, Calendar,YouTube, Maps, Android, and Chrome. I love them all. Google can mine all my data as much as they want, doesn't bother me at all, doesn't hurt me either. I am glad I am not paranoid. I tried a iPhone6 for a year last year and I quickly returned to a Samsung S6. I don't have anything bad to say about Apple, I am just glad I am in the Google world.
     
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    I don't have difficulties to understand why an user that is happy with a Samsung phone could love Google. I don't know what is worst (actually I know: Google. At least Samsung is just a phone maker with a little talent, but they don't cheat on us).
     
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    I know what you mean. After I bought my 6s I got the urge to buy another dslr body and lens. I'm considered the pro-Bono photographer in my family and pictures at family events. Photography is my avocation.
     
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    and the straight jacket....i think someone went off their meds today.
     
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    Nexus 6P. Period.
     
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