Can anybody convince me either way?? I am not fussy about using tapes or HDD. I am intrigued by the 24p and 30p modes of the HV30...but I like the night vision and space (120 gb HDD) of the SR12...Can anybody please gve me some information that could sway me in either direction. (I'm comfortable using imovie or final cut in case that's a factor as well) Also, I'm on a macbook pro 2.1ghz intel core duo with 2gb of ram. Am I going to have any problems editing HD footage?? Thanks!