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Advice on Aperture alternative

mtbdudex said:
Well this sucks for those using the adobe stuff
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Fwiw I’m still using Aperture for dslr downloads, I use photos for iPhone downloads
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From what I've read, if you're already subscribed, the price doesn't change. Just for new sign ups.
 
Yes they still have the $9.99 plan which gives you Lightroom and Lightroom for iOS. It’s always been like that. If you wanted Photoshop you always had to step up to the $19.99 plan.

mtbdudex said:
Well this sucks for those using the adobe stuff
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Fwiw I’m still using Aperture for dslr downloads, I use photos for iPhone downloads
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rocknblogger said:
Yes they still have the $9.99 plan which gives you Lightroom and Lightroom for iOS. It’s always been like that. If you wanted Photoshop you always had to step up to the $19.99 plan.
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Not true. I’ve been paying $9.99 for years and have both LR and PS as part of the Photographer’s plan.
 
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mollyc said:
Not true. I’ve been paying $9.99 for years and have both LR and PS as part of the Photographer’s plan.
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After some more thought I think you’re right. It looks like they increased the storage to 1TB from 20GB with Lightroom only.
 
rocknblogger said:
After some more thought I think you’re right. It looks like they increased the storage to 1TB from 20GB with Lightroom only.
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Yeah, I'm a current Classic/CC/Ps 20GB Plan user and basically that's what it shows now: the same features but with a bump to the 1TB storage, which used to cost $10/mo extra. And no option to buy the 20GB/$10/mo plan from Adobe (still available from resellers).

Very annoying that they want to force me to buy storage I won't use, since I don't use CC. And I'm sure it will revive the fears that going forward Adobe wants to rely on CC and not Classic, which is not good news for most of us.

They haven't raised the price in a long time, and I wouldn't object to an incremental increase, esp if combined with incentives for say longer contract periods, but a 100% jump with zero benefit might send me elsewhere.
 
robgendreau said:
Yeah, I'm a current Classic/CC/Ps 20GB Plan user and basically that's what it shows now: the same features but with a bump to the 1TB storage, which used to cost $10/mo extra. And no option to buy the 20GB/$10/mo plan from Adobe (still available from resellers).

Very annoying that they want to force me to buy storage I won't use, since I don't use CC. And I'm sure it will revive the fears that going forward Adobe wants to rely on CC and not Classic, which is not good news for most of us.

They haven't raised the price in a long time, and I wouldn't object to an incremental increase, esp if combined with incentives for say longer contract periods, but a 100% jump with zero benefit might send me elsewhere.
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But, if you're already subscribed, that $10 per month doesn't change, right? That's just for new sign ups?
 
robgendreau said:
Yeah, I'm a current Classic/CC/Ps 20GB Plan user and basically that's what it shows now: the same features but with a bump to the 1TB storage, which used to cost $10/mo extra. And no option to buy the 20GB/$10/mo plan from Adobe (still available from resellers).

Very annoying that they want to force me to buy storage I won't use, since I don't use CC. And I'm sure it will revive the fears that going forward Adobe wants to rely on CC and not Classic, which is not good news for most of us.

They haven't raised the price in a long time, and I wouldn't object to an incremental increase, esp if combined with incentives for say longer contract periods, but a 100% jump with zero benefit might send me elsewhere.
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Interestingly I went to Adobe.com on my Windows PC and when I clicked the buy button it still showed me the Photography bundle with 20GB storage and both Lightroom and Photoshop. But on my iPad it does not show that option. Hmmm
 
maflynn said:
Late 2017, and into early 2018, I searched long and hard for something that could replace Lightroom, but sadly I came to the conclusion that there is no other product that offers the same level of features, and ease of use as LR. While I abhor the idea of a subscription, there's a reason why LR is the market leader.

I used to use Aperture and I went right over to LR when Apple announced its death, I wished they didn't kill it off, because I think Aperture is that one program that offered similar features and abilities.

While there are developers jumping on the DAM bandwagon, few have the same level of control, as LR does. Capture One is probably the closest that gives a lot of editing ability, great RAW conversion, and decent DAM capabilities. Yet, I found I was shoehorning my work into a workflow I didn't care for. That is LR allows me to work the way I want too, but C1, did not.

Like it or not, Adobe has done an incredible job with Lightroom, and it really doesn't have any equals in my opinion.
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I agree with you regarding the Lightroom part, however I feel they could invest a bit more into ‘coding’ to sort out optimization issues of the program. Right now Grid View in LR on my mac is horrible - it lags and stutters (and don’t really blame Mojave for that). I can’t believe market leader can’t sort this out quickly. UI/scrolling on Capture One is butterly smooth.

Adobe could also make pricing schemes not so complicated.

Don’t get ne wrong - I like LR and as I told, I think they are leading the market, but...
 
Susurs said:
Adobe could also make pricing schemes not so complicated.
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What's so complicated?
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Granted, they recently "experimented" with doubling the price and if that turns out to be the case, I'll rethink my investment once again.
 
maflynn said:
What's so complicated?
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Granted, they recently "experimented" with doubling the price and if that turns out to be the case, I'll rethink my investment once again.
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What is too complicated is the naming structure Adobe uses. Lightroom Classic? Lightroom CC extra classic? Lightroom lite classic vintage!

Just name it, Lightroom desktop, Lightroom mobile, Lightroom cloud.
 
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MacNut said:
You would assume or hope they would have thought of that. Seems like they made it more convoluted than it had to be.
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I'm ok with it, Lightroom or lightroom classic. The former is the new cloud based version and the latter is the legacy version
 
mpfuchs said:
But, if you're already subscribed, that $10 per month doesn't change, right? That's just for new sign ups?
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Until your subscription is up. Mine is good until October 2019. After that it will be at whatever the current rates are. I had the full CC @49.99/mo and when it expired they were going to re-lockin for another year at the current price of $52.99/mo due to the price increase. I downgraded the to $9.99/mo Photography Plan and found substitutes for the other programs - but couldn't fully dump Adobe like I wanted to. Personally, I just buy the card a Best Buy, pre-paying for the year, so it actually expires rather than auto-renew. Doesn't really save me anything but I get credit for Best Buy's Rewards program on what I was going to spend anyway.
 
maflynn said:
What's so complicated?
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Granted, they recently "experimented" with doubling the price and if that turns out to be the case, I'll rethink my investment once again.
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It’s not a single thing. More like: no prepetual licenses, mobile plans (that seems to be sorted now somehow), some regional restrictions issues even within a single market (the EU), naming, this ‘test’, etc... alltogether it creates a feeling that everything is a bit ‘complicated’
 
I am currently still using Aperture (I know, stupid).

What is the best way to move my catalog OUT of Aperture? I am shooting RAW and used Aperture for post processing as well as adding keywords. I am using Aperture's database structure so it isn't an easy move "named folder" to new "named folder"


Thanks in advance.
 
Aperture is very crashy with the latest OS update. Shame.

PHOTOS will process RAW files, seems to do it well, also has great DAM'ing.

My challenge is applying adjustments to multiple photos at once in PHOTOS. Is there a way?

My eventual larger challenge will be transitioning my old LR3 work into PHOTOS, along with the few Aperture projects, and instantly filling up my iCloud. Any tips there? How can I work on RAW pics in PHOTOS, without uploading those RAWs, and only synchronizing the finished/exported work?

Do I really have to turn it into a two-to-three step process? Import RAW, adjust, export JPEG, delete RAW (only from PHOTOS internal library), import JPEG?

With Aperture you can leave the RAWs 'in their current folder'
 
BJMRamage said:
I am currently still using Aperture (I know, stupid).

What is the best way to move my catalog OUT of Aperture? I am shooting RAW and used Aperture for post processing as well as adding keywords. I am using Aperture's database structure so it isn't an easy move "named folder" to new "named folder"


Thanks in advance.
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https://apertureexporter.com/

You can try this tool. I am in the same boat. Still using Aperture. I haven‘t made up my mind what’s next. I assume at one point in the future I will need to move. What I like about the tool above that it should provide you with the picture in your folder structure.. With this you should be free to move them to and wherever you want. Just to be clear - I haven‘t tried it myself apart from the demo. If you use it please let me know the results.
 
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I'm another one who's stubbornly stuck with Aperture all along. I gave Lightroom a try but I wasn't all that fond of it (partially because I couldn't follow the workflow) - I do some basic things in Aperture and then will go into Photoshop when necessary. I am curious about one thing if I make the switch to Photos.. My Aperture Library is 736GB, of course now its stored locally on my Mac and I keep a backup of the library externally. If I import all of those images into Photos is that going to be stored on iCloud automatically? (I do have photos on my phone backed up to iCloud as I have 2 phones and an iPad that I share pics between). I dont want to be forced into a 2TB plan and pay $10/mo.
 
Hls811 said:
I'm another one who's stubbornly stuck with Aperture all along. I gave Lightroom a try but I wasn't all that fond of it (partially because I couldn't follow the workflow) - I do some basic things in Aperture and then will go into Photoshop when necessary. I am curious about one thing if I make the switch to Photos.. My Aperture Library is 736GB, of course now its stored locally on my Mac and I keep a backup of the library externally. If I import all of those images into Photos is that going to be stored on iCloud automatically? (I do have photos on my phone backed up to iCloud as I have 2 phones and an iPad that I share pics between). I dont want to be forced into a 2TB plan and pay $10/mo.
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Sounds like you'd have to use a different iCloud account, if you still wanted to back up your iPhone and iPad.
On the new iCloud account, just make sure to uncheck iCloud Photo Library in settings before uploading your 736GB.
 
right mind said:
For starters, to move all my images from aperture I bought "Aperture Exporter". It's an excellent way export all your photos from aperture to where ever you choose and keep you aperture library in order. It move's all your unedited raw files and optional jpeg copy with the edits "baked in", including all the metadata. That way you have a finished copy of each edited photo. That can add up to hundreds of hours you've spent editing your photo's.
Highly recommended!!
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Won't Aperture do this natively? Cant you export versions and stipulate the folder structure to export them to? Why did you need Aperture Exporter?
[doublepost=1561002530][/doublepost]For those of you using Aperture still, does it play well with Mojave? I have a mid 2012 classic MBP and am considering updating to Mojave but my two concerns are Aperture and whether it will slow my computer to a crawl. (FYI, I've upgraded by HDD to SSD)

If I clone my drive with El Capitan on it, and try Mojave, would I be able to just restore my computer to the El Capitan backup if I am unhappy and no harm no foul?
 
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