Advice, please: Should I buy a 7, an SE, or wait?

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  1. shunting123, Sep 13, 2016
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    shunting123 macrumors member

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    Hi, all.

    I have a 5s. No real complaints with it, although I would like a better camera, a nicer display, and better battery life.

    From the sounds of it, I really want to buy next year's iPhone.

    My options:
    • Buy an (unlocked) iPhone 7 and then get the 8 next year (pretty expensive)
    • Buy the SE and get the 8 next year (screen quality is the same, but a less expensive option)
    • Do nothing and get the 8 next year (cheapest option, but not very exciting)
    What's tempting me with the SE is that the price is now just $449 (64GB).

    Either way, I think my choice comes down to the expected resale value of SE in one year versus the iPhone 7 in one year. Assuming the iPhone 8 sees heavy demand, will the cost of ownership for the year for the 7 be that much greater than that of the SE?

    Any thoughts/advice? Thank you.
     
  2. andreyush macrumors 6502

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    Wait another year. Don't buy anything and then get the 7s or 8. It's not like you need a better camera so bad no ?
    It's not worth to buy now a phone just to buy another next year when you have already a good phone :/ . IMO
     
  3. archer75 macrumors 65816

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    I get a new phone every year. And send my current back to the carrier via their upgrade plan. Easy as pie.
     
  4. andreyush macrumors 6502

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    Ok then if you want a better screen and a better camera you could buy the 7 :/ .
    If you want a better camera and the same screen buy the SE.
    If you want a better camera, display and to be a little cheaper 6s ?

    I would take any time a SE over the 6s or the 7 because it's my prefference, i love 4 inch iphones xD and SE it's my love but it depends on you what you want the most .
     
  5. bufffilm macrumors 601

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    I'd get the SE now and decide next year if the 10th year phone wows you.

    If you're like me and are waiting for Oled display, there's a possibility that we might have to wait till 2018 (for the 4.7" model w/oled).
     
  6. PieTunes macrumors 6502

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    First and foremost, do what you want that best fits your budget. No point in going into debt over a phone unless money isn't important to you.
     
  7. Freakonomics101 macrumors 65816

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    Do you use the headphone jack at all? If even once a month, I think the 6s is still worth it. iOS 10 runs better than iOS 9 does in terms of the 6s and 6s+.
     
  8. Relentless Power macrumors G5

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    The SE is a great iPhone. I personally upgraded back to the iPhone 7, being I appreciated the extra features and larger screen, with a higher resolution.

    For me, it comes down to screen size. But the SE is amazing with the power and battery life.
     
  9. shunting123 thread starter macrumors member

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    Will owning the 7 for one year cost me that much more than owning the SE for one year (assuming I re-sell each when the next device comes out)? Or not possible to determine easily?
     
  10. OneMike macrumors 603

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    Wait till next year. Seems like you want to buy something but don't have a good reason.
     
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  12. mtneer macrumors 68020

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    If you are happy with your 5S and it does everything you want satisfactorily, I wouldnt pay up for a full phone now. I'd do it when either the 5S gives up the ghost or the jump is spectacular enough to part with $650+. Apple will want full ride for a new phone whether you come from a 5S or a 6S+. So, it has to be really worth your while to pay the money.
     
  13. bufffilm macrumors 601

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    I agree with the others...if the 5s is still working well for you and the battery is holding up, then wait.

    Phones are an expensive purchase.

    I'm just saying that sometimes waiting for the next year's phone and the anticipation that comes with it...all that may be less than the delivered final product.

    Buy a new phone it you need to, but don't get caught up in all the excitement if you know what I mean.
     
  14. Sunny1990 Suspended

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    indeed iPhone SE is a great phone better value for money than iPhone 7 which looks similar to iPhone 6 beside the new colors,Get SE now,iPhone 7 not worth the money and if can wait for next year iPhone
     
  15. BruceButtcheeks macrumors member

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    SE is a great phone made even better by the $50 price cut! I love my SE and have no interest in the 7 whatsoever and I'm a person who swaps phones numerous times a year.
     
  16. Edzson macrumors newbie

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    I've been on the "s" cycle since my 3Gs. My 5s has been stellar for 3 years, so much so that I skipped the 6s because I couldn't justify relegating the 5s to iPod status (I still have my 3Gs and 4s for that). Then on Labor Day I went for a swim with 5s in pocket and now it's bricked. :( I reactivated the 4s but it is painfully slow. Although I love the camera features of the 7+, I'm going to get the SE and wait for the oled 7s/8 next year. Plus, I have battery cases that will still work on the SE.

    Cliff Notes: Bricked my 5s, getting the SE and waiting 'til next year.
     
  17. pika2000 macrumors 68030

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    You just answered your own question.
     
  18. shunting123 thread starter macrumors member

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    Pika: Yes, I really want to buy next year's iPhone (and almost certainly will) -- it was just a question of: should I buy an SE or 7 now to tide myself over until then. My 5s is perfectly adequate, but I would much prefer something right now with a better camera and battery life. I think my decision came down to: if owning the SE for a year will be that much cheaper than owning a 7 for the year, I'll be fine to get the SE.
     
  19. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    Buy what suit your needs? How should we be able to answer for you what you need?
     
  20. Savor Suspended

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    Calculate it.

    $450 SE
    Within a year - $300? (minus $150)

    $650
    Within a year - $400? (minus $250)

    You have to also think like a second hand buyer. I sell multiple iPhones off Craigslist in the States and OLX in the Philippines. I don't do eBay. Too much taxes and I don't even have a PayPal account. I prefer face to face interactions which can be fun and help improve your personality and sales skills. I was surprised I was able to sell a three-year old iPhone 5 last year for $200 and it wasn't even in mint condition. Maybe 7.5/10 condition.

    But the sweet spot for buying a year old iPhone or any other flagship is nothing more than $400. This includes Plus models. So for people being able to sell it after a year for $500, good for you. Where are those suckers? This is why flagships are so overpriced because how quickly they drop in price after a year. It's like buying an expensive car. The moment you drive it out of the lot, goodbye resell value. Plummets in half.

    An HTC One M8 can be fetched for under $150 these days. The M7 for under $80. They were about $600+ when they first came out. After a year, less than $300. After two, less than $200. Again, sweet spot for iPhone is around $250-$400. The buyers aren't stupid either. The point that they are buying it used is too save money. Not splurge. For $400, you can easily get a new Chinese flagship.

    Honestly, any phone shouldn't be worth over $400 when first bought. People complained about a Panasonic 3DO for $700 or PS3 for $600. My favorite current phone (Moto E2) is only $30 and does like 90% on what I need and does somethings better than my more expensive phones. Now people are buying $700 flagships, left and right? Doesn't make sense. Only the Chinese like ZTE, OnePlus, and Xiaomi value flagship specs accordingly.

    About $400 should be tops for any phone including iPhones and Galaxy Notes. It should trickle down eventually like what happened to laptop computers that used to fetch over a grand and 1080p TVs. Remember, we used to pay $400+ for an mp3 player like an iPod over a decade ago. SE will retain its value better by maybe $100 but the 7 will fetch you more money.

    If you hate glass backs or don't care for a new design, then go for broke with the 7. Apple will likely use the 8 glass design for the next three years. All that whining about a jet black 7 scratching easily won't look so bad when they return to glass next year which isn't just prone to scratches, but spiderweb cracks. I can imagine iPhone 8 looking like the S7 edge without the curve, edge to edge, and no top and bottom bezel. If you want to wait for that 8 design, then get SE to save cash or wait for the 7 price drop in a year if the 8 design doesn't fancy you.

    Sell off the 5s to help with the funds. The 5s should be running like crap by iOS11 next year now that the 5 runs like molasses with iOS10. Planned obsolescence. Apple loves money more than their worshippers... :)

    You're welcome. ;)
     

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