After Mavericks upgrade, normal for games to have poor framerates?

Discussion in 'OS X Mavericks (10.9)' started by Valkyre, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. Valkyre macrumors 6502

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    Just what the title says. I am using a rmbp 15" and the framerates are all over the place. Is it because all games need to be updated for the new opengl?
     
  2. MBHockey macrumors 68040

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    Are you using an external monitor?
     
  3. Valkyre thread starter macrumors 6502

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    No using my laptop. I tried Bioshock Inifinite if that makes any difference.
     
  4. bkribbs macrumors 65816

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    Crap. I'm getting 27-30 FPS on mine craft compared to the 60 I usually get.

    Safari also loads a little slower. Not loving this update.
     
  5. DarthTechGeek macrumors newbie

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    Same issue here. I was hoping to get improved gaming frame rates with OSX Mavericks, or at least to have performance stay the same. Unfortunately, the settings I used with Mountain Lion to achieve 60 fps in COD4 and Starcraft 2 (playing natively in OSX), now get me 30 fps or worse in Mavericks. Hopefully there will be updates to these games to improve performance.

    These are all with vsync enabled, since I do not like screen tearing.

    Outside of games, Mavericks seems to work well and be snappier than Mountain Lion, and I am in general happy.

    Note: This is on a 15" Early 2013 rMBP. I am set to use the discrete 650M GPU in my macbook, since the Mavericks update rechecked the automatic graphics switching box. Spotlight did not appear to be indexing while I was performing these tests.
     
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  7. Valkyre thread starter macrumors 6502

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    That is what I hope as well, I reset the SMC just in case and the problem is still there so it must be the new opengl.

    Also cinebench aint working properly (poor framerates) so this points out to the opengl thing as well.
     
  8. hayden1250 macrumors member

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    I had the same issue. So downgraded back to ML through time machine and all is well.
     
  9. stevenaaus macrumors newbie

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    The linked article(s) dont say anything too relevant that i can see.

    Spotlight might be working hard if enabled.
    Can someone disable spotlight and do some testing ??
     
  10. Valkyre thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I am at work atm unfortunately but will check once i go home and report.
     
  11. bkribbs macrumors 65816

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    It'll be a pain if all games are going to need updated. I'll probably do a ML partition for gaming then if I need to.
     
  12. adr1974 macrumors regular

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    i don't really game much, but fwiw, frame rates on oceanwave opencl have gone from ~540 to ~65 on a flashed 680.
     
  13. DarthTechGeek macrumors newbie

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    For reference to others, changes in my game performance between Mountain Lion and Mavericks (same settings):

    Call of Duty 2: Was 60 fps, Now 30 fps
    Call of Duty 4: Was 60 fps, Now 30 fps
    Starcraft 2: Was 60 fps, Now 30-20 fps
    Doom 3: Was 60 fps, Still 60 fps
    Quake 4: Was 60 fps, Still 60 fps
    SW Empire at war: Does not display fps, but is noticeably slower

    Doom 3 and Quake 4 may be suffering performance wise as well, but its hard to tell since they ran excessively well under Mountain Lion.

    Hopefully it is just a need to update for OpenGL, and will occur sooner rather than later...
     
  14. bkribbs macrumors 65816

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    Is that one update, or will each app have to update themselves?
     
  15. fekimoki macrumors member

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    How about Dota 2? Yeah that is why im still on the fence to upgrade to Mav. I tested it on the first build months ago. CSGO framerate is so bad.
    Guys maybe you can consider bootcamp it. Playing games on Windows means high framerate and details ;)
     
  16. DarthTechGeek macrumors newbie

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    If it is a compatibility issue with Mavericks OpenGL 4.1, then developers will have to update their own apps individually. However, if different games were developed using the same/similar engines (e.g. Doom 3 & Quake 4... or COD titles), then it may be easier for developers to release an update to related games once they have figured out how to optimize one of them.

    I think the big questions are soon to become what games will developers deem suitable to update for OpengGL 4.1, and how long will it be before those updates are implemented?
     
  17. bernhard macrumors member

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    Strange, I got the feeling that everything was much faster in Mavericks :confused:
    tried XCOM, WoW and Diablo3, but never turned on any framerate display.
     
  18. bkribbs macrumors 65816

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    For the record, I've also done a fresh install of Mavericks and still no improvement.

    If I can track down a copy of the ML installer (never paid for it since it came on my computer) I will be installing it on another partition.
     
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    Something interesting.....

    OK this is interesting:

    My OpenGL bencher is claiming that certain OpenGL versions (4 and later) are NOT compatible in Mavericks. I'll post a screenshot at home.

    Maybe they neglected to include the OpenGL extensions they were going to or maybe the bencher needs to be updated for Mavericks.

    I'll test X-Plane10 when I get home later today.
     
  22. superdx macrumors regular

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    This seemed to do it for me, back to 60fps in WoW / Shrine of Two Moons and just did an LFR. NO LAG!
     
  23. fekimoki macrumors member

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    Awesome. Any lag for other games like dota and cs?
     
  24. DarthTechGeek macrumors newbie

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    I generally do not game on my external monitor, but I gave this a shot anyways. It did not resolve my low fps from gaming in Mavericks.
     
  25. superdx macrumors regular

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    I don't have those games, but SC2 and Diablo 3 seem to run smoothly as before.

    I have a 5 monitor setup. Maybe this only helps this particular kind of setup?
     

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