thanks for the advise, i'll see maybe we'll go used if i can get it for 800, that's a huge discount. we were looking for it for daily use, surfing web, doing some word/excel work but also to run windows, as i go .net development, so i wanted it to be able to handle that without slowing down. wanted a mac mainly because i'm interested in also learning to program objectivec and get into iphone/ipad development at work.