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Tripp Mickle, a technology reporter who recently moved from The Wall Street Journal to The New York Times, is releasing a new book on Apple this week, entitled "After Steve: How Apple Became a Trillion-Dollar Company and Lost Its Soul," and an adapted excerpt of the book was shared today that provides a look at the tensions between Tim Cook and Jony Ive that ultimately led to Ive's departure.

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The main anecdotes in the piece focus on the Apple Watch, which Ive wanted to be a fashionable accessory launched with all of the glitz of a runway show complete with a $25 million white tent. Apple's marketing team questioned the expense and the emphasis on fashion, preferring a more traditional introduction focused on the Apple Watch's capabilities.

While Cook ultimately sided with Ive on the fashion-oriented introduction, sources interviewed for the book suggest it was the beginning of the end for Ive's time at Apple.
To many present, Mr. Cook’s approval seemed like a win for Mr. Ive. But the designer would later recast it as a Pyrrhic victory. He would tell colleagues that the debate over the event and the larger struggle over the watch’s marketing were among the first moments that he felt unsupported at Apple.
As the Apple Watch was pivoted to become a fitness-oriented device with broad retail distribution, Ive reportedly began to chafe at the "rise of operational leaders" within the company and an increasing emphasis on services rather than hardware, and ultimately he transitioned out of Apple to found his own design firm, Lovefrom.

The piece goes into more detail on Ive's early days at Apple, his relationship with Steve Jobs, and additional anecdotes on Ive's evolution following Jobs' death.
Without Mr. Jobs, he had assumed much of the responsibility for the product’s design and its marketing. People close to Mr. Ive said he had found it draining to fight with his colleagues over promotion and had become overwhelmed by managing a staff that stretched into the hundreds, multiples of the 20-person design team he ran for years.
Cook and Ive ultimately agreed on a new Chief Design Officer role for Ive that would see him turn over daily management of the design group and shift to a part-time role laser-focused on product development.

Ive's participation and presence waned with his new role, with Ive reportedly often going weeks without weighing in on work going on in the team. The report includes an anecdote from the iPhone X development process when Ive called an important product review meeting that he ended up being nearly three hours late for and ultimately concluded without making any final decisions.

In Ive's absence, Apple continued to pivot more toward services while Cook's eye for operational efficiency evolved the company even further. With Apple Park essentially finished in mid-2019, Ive decided it was time to move on.
Few knew the full extent of Mr. Ive’s battles. Few were aware of his clash with Apple’s finance team. Few understood how draining he found it to fight over marketing the watch, a product that had increased sales over time and become core to the company’s $38 billion wearables business. Yet many could recognize the tediousness of annually updating the company’s iPhones, iPads and Macs.
A review of After Steve by The New York Times praises it for Mickle's thorough efforts to interview over 200 former and current employees and advisors. It takes issue, however, with Mickle's epilogue that places blame on Cook for being "aloof and unknowable, a bad partner for Ive" and largely responsible for Apple's failure to launch another product on the scale of the iPhone. The review argues that the iPhone was a singular opportunity as evidenced by the fact that the Jobs–Ive partnership never yielded anything else on that scale, either before or after.

"After Steve" debuts this Tuesday, May 3 in the U.S. and is available from Amazon and other retailers.

Article Link: 'After Steve' Examines the Tensions That Led to Jony Ive's Departure From Apple
 

mikethebigo

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IMO Ive didn’t work without Steve. Steve was the practical balance to some of Ive’s more extravagant tendencies. I hated the original Apple Watch launch - it felt so pompous and like Apple wanted to be some sort of tech Burberry. That was the last thing I wanted.

Rebranding the Apple Watch to a fitness accessory saved the entire product line.
 
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hasanahmad

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Looks like an attempt to sell books. Jonny Ive was an uncontrolled mess and almost took down Apple iPhone domination because of his obsession with less user friendly hardware. Good riddance he is gone and with him gone Apple GOT its soul back . Keyboard is fixed, m1 hardware, laptops with ports, iPhones with less hardware issues.
 

zahuh

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“The art challenges the technology, and the technology inspires the art.” - John Lassiter

Without Ive, there is no art CHALLENGING the tech. He/SJ pushed people to do the impossible.

I think we can all admit things move a lot slower under Cook. Take it for what it is.
 

ouimetnick

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Glad Ive is gone. Steve and Jony balanced each other. With out Job's feedback, Tim (weak) Cook let Ive run wild. Thats how we ended up with the 2016 generation of MacBook Pro with the butterfly keyboard. Jobs likely would have switched back to a traditional keyboard scissor mechanism a year or so later, not 4.5 years after.

I'm glad to see Apple focusing on actual usability like putting in larger batteries into their phones than making the thinnest devices that can't last a day. I appreciate the industrial design on Jony Ive, but if there's no one to keep him in check (Tim wasn't strong enough to do so), then I think Apple is better off with out him or his ideas.

There's a delicate balance when designing for form and function. Ive always went form over function. No ports on the MacBook Pro, no all day battery life on iPhone. No proper keyboard, etc. I feel that with Jobs around, there would be a happy compromise
 

hasanahmad

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“The art challenges the technology, and the technology inspires the art.” - John Lassiter

Without Ive, there is no art CHALLENGING the tech. He/SJ pushed people to do the impossible.

I think we can all admit things moves a lot slower under Cook. Take it for what it is.
You can clearly tell today Apple is praised for for everything Ive would have rejected. M1, ports, back to good keyboard, Apple Watch as health accessory
 

Saturn007

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The book sounds highly reliant on -- and too beholden to — Ive's perspective. That's incredibly one-sided.

Hope that’s just the reviewers' spin and not the authors' actual viewpoint!

Wasn't Ive the one behind the “disastrous” iOS 7 and the thinness “insanity”?

His pompous videos on his design philosophy and the latest Apple product — which were entrancing the first time or two — quickly became tiresome, repetitive, and self-satirizing!
 

anshuvorty

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$25M to move a dozen trees and put up a tent. This is probably the same guy who came up with the $10,000 Watch Edition.

He left in 2019 and since then, we've seen iPhones with bigger batteries and MacBooks with usable keyboards and practical I/O.
I would've loved at least 1 USB-A port on the new redesigned 14-inch/16-inch MacBook Pros...
 

HenrikWivel

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The tech world need people like Ive and Jobs. Who else would try to push the envelope and challenge the common perception of what tech is capable of and what it can do for us? Tim is perfect for the bottom line and shareholder value, but even if Apple had misfires and bad ideas during the Ive/Jobs era, I miss how they at least tried to think differently. I miss the revolution over iterations.
 

nwcs

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If these excerpts are an accurate reflection of how things went after Steve passed then it’s quite clear that Ive wasn’t a good fit anymore and was off on tangents. As many said before, he needed a strong person like Jobs to balance/control him but also feed his talent.
 

IamTimCook

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All those years of having to apologize to users for form over function, we are finally getting back to an Apple that said, “we makes devices that we want to use.”

iPhones have gotten thicker (cough iPhone 6…yuck) and more powerful, MacBooks have really gained some weight, power, and brought back usability, all while staying Apple classy.

iPads have become so much more than just a reader, with Desktop hardware and remote features like Sidecar. Not to mention the amount of RAM that allows for serious professional Apps like 3D sculpting, Video, and CAD for example. (Who cares if the OS isn’t “pro” yet, the Apps being developed for it sure are)

The company is making gigantic decisions and taking a big risk to revamp their entire OS and hardware to an entirely different architecture so as to lead from the front instead of follow.

Apple even seems to be taking advice from the users by making changes to OS features and OEM App functionality. (Good or bad we know they are listening now)

The last few years have been a great improvement and back on course from Steve’s original vision.
 
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rgwebb

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All those years of having to apologize to users for form over function, we are finally getting back to an Apple that “…makes devices that we want to use.”

iPhones have gotten thicker and more powerful, MacBooks have really gained some weight, power, and brought back usability, all while staying Apple classy.

iPads have become so much more than just a reader, with Desktop hardware and remote features like Sidecar. Not to mention the amount of RAM that allows for serious professional Apps like 3D sculpting, Video, and CAD for example. (Who cares if the OS isn’t “pro” yet, the Apps being developed for it sure are)

Apple even seems to be taking advice from the users by making changes to OS features and OEM App functionality.

The last few years have been a great improvement and back on course from Steve’s original vision.
The thing that is different is Apple is choosing when thin-n-light is right and when form-that-maximizes-power is right.

The MBA was improved by the move to Apple Silicon because they could finally make a fanless macOS laptop.

The MBP was improved by the move to Apple Silicon because they decided to build the laptop around the SoC not the other way around…
 
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