AG Hi Res Screen Advice

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by owlbabu, Jul 2, 2010.

  1. owlbabu macrumors member

    Jul 2, 2010
    Hi guys. I had a question regarding the Anti-glare Hi Res Screens on the 15'' MBP. I checked out that screen and the hi-res glossy screen as well as the plain old glossy screen in the Apple store. The AG seems really nice, especially when I work next to windows and things. But the problem lies in the Hi-Res screen.

    With high resolution, I noticed that all the fonts were smaller, the menus were really small and everything. I watch movies a lot on my laptop when I'm bored.

    Am I right in assuming that:

    The AG Hi-Res screen will make my movie-watching experience much better?

    A Hi-Res screen will make the pictures extremely crisp and clear?

    A Hi-Res screen will not be straining on the eyes? It seems like with all the small font, it could be irritating...I'm not sure guys...

    Your help is greatly appreciated.

  2. kny3twalker macrumors 65816


    Oct 25, 2009
    the high resolution screen will make movies and pictures that are also high resolution look better, but lower resolutions images and movies when viewed full screen (or covering more of the display than the resolution of the media, itself) will look worse.

    If you do not like the small fonts, I would not get the high resolution display.
    Personally I am surprised Apple has not either offered a low resolution anti glare display or moved toward resolution independence in their OS.
  3. owlbabu thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 2, 2010
    So on that basis alone, I shouldn't go for Hi-Res?

    I heard it's awesome in terms of screen real estate and just beautiful clear and crisp picture quality. Is it something you just get used to?
  4. uberamd macrumors 68030


    May 26, 2009
    I would *always* get the highest resolution possible. Heck, resolution is the ONLY reason I got my 17" uMBP (1920x1200) in 2009. Small fonts are a good thing to me since it makes everything look more crisp.
  5. Rithem macrumors 6502


    Jun 29, 2008
    Definitely. I love the high res on my MBP. I can't go back to a lower resolution screen anymore.
  6. pinsrw macrumors regular

    May 30, 2010
    You should do two things to reduce eye strain:

    1. Use TinkerTool to set the system-wide font smoothing to Light. Default is medium.

    2. Use TinkerTool to set various system fonts to bigger sizes or clearer typefaces. For instance I use Caslon 14pt for window titles.

    While I haven't used the high-res Apple display except in stores, I *have* used a 15.6" 144-dpi 1920x1080 FHD display that was in a Windows PC (Lenovo). Photos looked beyond stunning. HD video was very good too. Of course, under Windows you can enlarge the fonts system-wide as well, so fonts were stunning too.

    Apple really ought to make a 144 dpi display available in at least one of their laptops. They probably don't because there is a shortage of them.

    FYI, I have only seen these displays in Lenovo and Dell laptops. Lenovo is crap quality... you should avoid it.
  7. dusk007 macrumors 68040


    Dec 5, 2009
    I think there is really no reason not to get high res.
    It is nonsense that lower res videos look worse on high res. DVD quality looks either the same or better on high res. 720p will look slightly better but you probably cannot see the difference and 1080p will look definitely better on the high res.
    I think almost all fonts are big enough. Browser stuff except for Flash can be easily and perfectly enlarged. Everything else like movies, pictures, games look naturally better on high res.
    For gaming. Since you cannot really use AA with most games on the 256mb GPU anyway the higher res doesn't kill that much performance but it does help with negating the missing AA a little. Also scaling to 1280x800 works fine too in games. But I prefer higher res to almost unnoticeable differences in details.

    There are really very few menus of some programs that have small fonts in OSX that you have to live with. The content is usually zoomable everywhere. In word the page is just crisper but anyway at the zoom level you want it. The Menus are smaller which is perfect because they are usually oversized or probably optimzed for WUXGA and bigger screens.
  8. TheBritishBloke macrumors 68030


    Jul 21, 2009
    United Kingdom
    I would also always opt for a higher resolution (wasn't available to me in my circumstances).

    Even if it turns out you don't like the higher resolution, you can always lower it (not best of ideas ^^).

    But TinkerTool as already mentioned, can be used to alter font sizes, so it shouldn't be a problem, but it just makes everything better (unless what you're viewing e.g. low res film).

    Im not the best at explaining things... It's in my head, but doesnt want to be written down xD
  9. owlbabu thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 2, 2010
    So I should get the Hi-Res then? I'll probably go to the Apple store and check it out once more. I kinda want the Anti-Glare, and the Anti-Glare is only available in Hi-Res so...I might not have a choice. But I didn't really have any problems with the standard 1440 X 900 glossy display on my 2009 MBP.

    We'll see. But does everyone really love their high resolution screens, even with the small font? Are they that awesome and worth the upgrade?
  10. TheBritishBloke macrumors 68030


    Jul 21, 2009
    United Kingdom
    You would've been working with much lower resolutions back in the day. And you've managed to progress to a much higher resolution, it just means you can multitask, and have more 'room' to use.
  11. autacraft Guest

    The new high res anti glare is possibly the best laptop screen on the market currently, bar none

    its incredible in every aspect and using this alone has put me off glossies for life!

    get the AG for sure, you wont be disappointed one bit its amazing
  12. Richo macrumors newbie

    Jul 3, 2010
    Why isn't lowering the resolution the best of ideas? are the images or text somehow distorted by lowering the native resolution?
  13. pjcforpres2020 macrumors regular

    Jun 21, 2010
    Yes, Mac OSX doesn't like rescaling to a new resolution very much, to say the least, and what you are doing is changing the OS' resolution, essentially zooming in, then when math is applied, you end up with fuzzy distorted icons, text, etc.
  14. kolax macrumors G3

    Mar 20, 2007
    LCD's only look crisp at their native resolution.
  15. bigjobby macrumors 65816

    Apr 7, 2010
    London, UK
    I've been using hi-res displays for years and for me anything less makes fonts look too large. I think the small font thing is something one just gets used to after a while.
  16. darrellishere macrumors 6502

    Jul 13, 2007
    You can make the font bigger in safari by pinching your fingers, and osx scales up to a 30" display without text distorting.

    I cant wait to get the hi res. Its only 1680x1050. So it will look crisp not tiny!
  17. kolax macrumors G3

    Mar 20, 2007
    Go educate yourself. Your post is nonsense..
  18. Coleys macrumors newbie


    Mar 9, 2010
    I have no problem reading anything on the high res AG. I was expecting much smaller fonts due to this forum. It's entirely legible, and I do find that this resolution is perfect.

    I've had my first macbook for a few weeks now - and am loving it.
  19. robbieduncan Moderator emeritus


    Jul 24, 2002
    I love my hi-res AG screen. You get used to the text size very quickly...
  20. owlbabu thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 2, 2010
    OK guys this has helped. I will go to the Apple Store and make one final check and make the decision. It seems that most people love their HR AG screens.
  21. myke323 macrumors regular

    May 17, 2006

    WAIT, yeah get it...


    Hmmm small fonts... No way!

    Standard all the way...

    But... I'll regret it...

    Sorry man, just kidding. I was in the same boat as you 2 weeks ago. I went with the hi-res ag. Web fonts can be enlarged and when you do that you have large text that is insanely crisp. For me I wish the toolbar bookmarks in FF were a bit larger and that the tool palettes in CS were larger. But, that being said, this thing is gorgeous!!
  22. entatlrg macrumors 68040


    Mar 2, 2009
    Waterloo & Georgian Bay, Canada
    Does TinkerTool work for ALL font sizes, UI's included?
  23. owlbabu thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 2, 2010
    Haha, k sounds good. I'll have to check it out further. It's a tough decision because it should not be worth that much money to do a simple upgrade like that. I'm pretty angry at Apple about that.
  24. splurf macrumors newbie

    Jul 6, 2010
    Some fixes to help

    My biggest issue with the small fonts was the mail and calender programs. You can adjust the font for incoming mail so it automatically sizes it to a set size, but there is no way to make the outgoing mail larger. I write a lot of mail so this was a big issue for me. Here is the fix I used:

    In terminal (in utilities) put in the following
    defaults write AppleDisplayScaleFactor 1.25
    to undo
    defaults delete AppleDisplayScaleFactor

    The header on the mail program looks a little strange, but I love that my mail program is normal size again.

    I could not find a fix for calender that I like and switched calender programs to BusyCal which allows you to set the font size.

    Safari is easy with a pinch zoom or apple +. Most other programs I use I have to deal with smaller menus, but can zoom what I am working on.

    I think the reason that many more people do not by the 17 is fear. You will love the extra real estate!
  25. applebook macrumors 6502a


    Jul 21, 2009
    I've made the mistake of getting a 1920x1200 display on a 15" Dell Lattitude and then on the 17" MBP.

    Never again. That resolution should be reserved for a minimum of 19-inch and larger desktop LCDs.

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