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The way I see it, the AirPods and AppleTV have the most value.

iPhone - $1000
3 year cycle
$333 per year
$27.75 per month


MacBook Air - $1000
8 year cycle
$125 per year
$10.42 per month


iPad Pro - $800
5 year cycle
$160 per year
$13.4 per month


AirPods - $180
3 year cycle
$60 per year
$5 per month

Apple TV 4K - $180
6 year cycle
$30 per year
$2.5 per month

We spend way more than that every month on stuff we don’t even need like junk food and Starbucks. AirPods has WAY more value than people realize.

Don’t forget that iPhones and Macs typically still have some resale value even after a few years. AirPods will have practically zero resale after that time because their battery is practically crap. And it makes sense for iPhones to cost more because they are used more.
 
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Don’t forget that iPhones and Macs typically still have some resale value even after a few years. AirPods will have practically zero resale after that time because their battery is practically crap. And it makes sense for iPhones to cost more because they are used more.

Sure, but AirPods are such a cost effective long term investment that you don’t need to sell them, you get what you paid for.

Usage is subjective in the end. If they last less than two years then sure, they’re a waste of money. I use the AirPods for everything from listening to music, podcasts, audiobooks, YouTube to hands free phone calls and FaceTime calls.

Many get more hours listening time per day than screen on time on their iPhone. People need to stop looking at the initial price and look at the long term value they bring.
 
Damn. The difference in size is pretty big. These might end up hurting my ears after a couple of hours of use I reckon.

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But you also mentioned "$1000 phones", yet you own one of those. And for the record, I never thought (nor said) you were saying you couldn't afford them. I just find it odd that AirPods are the only popular Apple product that you don't see the perceived value in. Definitely seems like you're in the minority there among Apple fans. I think you might very well change your mind there if you test-drive them for a while (like you mentioned earlier).
I am well aware AirPods are (EXTREMELY) popular, but this is irrelevant to me. I don't buy products (or anything else really) based on that.

Comparing AirPods to an iPhone is also not equivalent; An iPhone does WAY more than AirPods, which is part of my point.

They're basically a single function device (pump audio to your ears), one that is dependent on other hardware as well.

At the end of the day, I can listen to music, answer phone calls, and even access Siri with cheap $30 wireless headphones. They pair easily enough to all my devices because Apple made standard Bluetooth connectivity a breeze in their software already.

So really, the missing functions that I'd maybe care for are noise cancellation & transparency mode, and I just don't think they're worth the at least $100 premium because I would not have these things in my head frequently enough to really use them.

For me I'd have to get the Pro ones too, because my ears just don't like the AirPod shape.

So again, perceived value. It's a personal thing, but AirPods don't do anything for me that I can't live without.

They're like Apple monitors. Cool, for sure, but not worth it to me and not required to get the Apple "experience".
 
Comparing AirPods to an iPhone is also not equivalent; An iPhone does WAY more than AirPods, which is part of my point.

I wasn't comparing them. I only brought it up because you said:

But I guess I am similar those people that can't justify $,1000 phones

yet you own a $1000 (minimum) phone. But now that I re-read that I think I may have misunderstood what you were saying. I think you may have been saying you view $180 headphones like others view $1000 phones (but you yourself see the value in $1000 phones). Before I thought you meant you ALSO didn't see the value in $1000 phones.
 
The way I see it, the AirPods and AppleTV have the most value.

iPhone - $1000
3 year cycle
$333 per year
$27.75 per month


MacBook Air - $1000
8 year cycle
$125 per year
$10.42 per month


iPad Pro - $800
5 year cycle
$160 per year
$13.4 per month


Apple Watch - $400
4 year cycle
$100 per year
$8.3 per month


AirPods - $180
3 year cycle
$60 per year
$5 per month

Apple TV 4K - $180
6 year cycle
$30 per year
$2.5 per month

We spend way more than that every month on stuff we don’t even need like junk food and Starbucks. AirPods has WAY more value than people realize.
The flaw in that logic is that neither AirPods nor AppleTV are that unique for what they do at their core.

I NEED an iPhone, a Mac, an iPad, an Apple Watch, and even AirTags if I want to integrate those device categories to the Apple iCloud ecosystem fully.

I don't really need an AppleTV for that, it's for watching TV. A FireStick 4k and the AppleTV app will suffice. Hell, my smart TV alone will suffice.

Same with AirPods. I can access ALL the auditory content of ALL my Apple devices and ecosystem with ANY headphones. Although, I concede that the FindMy feature of these set them a bit apart from non-Apple ones and are easier to justify (but not enough for me to pay a $100-$200 premium).

Like I said in a different post, they occupy the same space in Apple's ecosystem as Apple's first-party monitors. Cool to have, but not really a part of the ecosystem.
 
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