They will still be converted to AAC. The new lossless tier is only for songs from the Apple Music catalogue.
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AirPods, AirPods Max and AirPods Pro Don't Support Apple Music Lossless Audio
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Ich liebe achtziger Musik! I love '80's music! I found some of mine on CD which I ripped to the highest import setting possible years ago. Hearing Obsession by Animotion and Everybody Have Fun Tonight by Wang Chung on Music in their original studio recoding will take me back to my early night club times. I was listening to Men At Work and Eurogliders yesterday and Nena last Saturday. Neunundneunzig Luftballons is another favourite from the '80's and never liked the English 99 Red Balloons version.
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I doubt it. The original iTunes Match likely matched most songs (for most users, perhaps most of yours was uploaded) so had no real cost for Apple. The few that were uploaded were AAC. iTunes isn't getting the ALAC upgrade at all, and if they were, they'd probably charge to upload your ALACs due to the larger storage required.
So that says you cannot purchase it that way, nor can you download the Hi-Res as a lossless DRM free match of studio music you have. It still does not 'confirm' that the music that is dubbed as "iCloud Music Library" will not get the lossless feature. I hear that it is doubtful, but I hope it happens. Apple is not good at divulging information...
By the way, you can still suscribe to iTunes Match for $25 a year. Might be that as well. We will know on June 1 when I remove and re-add a 24x96 file I recorded on my main Mac, and try and download it from another....
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Do you not understand what exclusive means? iCloud Music Library is not part of Apple Music, ergo it won’t get it.
iCloud music library is part of Apple Music. Again, I am assuming and dreading you are correct, but until we have it in hand and do an upload/download cycle we will not know 100%, because Apple is not good at disclosure.
Here is the Apple Music Features Page, note:
Is listed as a feature of the service Apple Music. That is "iCloud Music Library" being a part of "Apple Music". The ONLY way we will know unless Apple is explicit (and nothing you showed has been explicit) is when we do a test after June 1. Saying it is not part of iTunes Match can indicate you do NOT get it for the $25 a year service called "iTunes Match", but do for the $100 plus a year service called "Apple Music". Do you understand what I am saying?
Apple Music Library is one things, iCloud Music Library is more what tends to be referred to as part of iTunes Match. Only Apple Music gets lossless, which Apple have been clear on. If you’re only using it via iTunes Match, then no lossless for you.
Apple announces lossless Apple Music is coming in June at no added cost
To compete with Amazon, Spotify, and Tidal.
www.theverge.com
You’re just trying to over complicate it, or maybe you don’t get the difference.
Oh man, you just aren't listening... WE DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW, NONE OF US KNOW!Apple Music Library is one things, iCloud Music Library is more what tends to be referred to as part of iTunes Match. Only Apple Music gets lossless, which Apple have been clear on. If you’re only using it via iTunes Match, then no lossless for you.
Apple announces lossless Apple Music is coming in June at no added cost
To compete with Amazon, Spotify, and Tidal.
You’re just trying to over complicate it, or maybe you don’t get the difference.
Apple has not said anything about the music you upload. They said "Nor will it be offered in iTunes Match" in what you sent - which to me conclusively refers to only this. While I EXPECT you are right, I hope not, and will not really know until next week. Saying something "tends" to be part of something else flys in the face of something being explicitly mentioned as part of Apple Music, which my image illustrates it is part of.
Google used to offer lossless uploads of your music with Google Music (now RIP). The image I sent you was from the features page of Apple Music, NOT the feature page of iTunes Match. I FULLY understand the distinction, I fully understand what you are TRYING to say, but there is zero zilch nothing conclusive saying your iCloud Music Library part of Apple Music will not be getting lossless uploads, and unless you can point me to Apple saying that, I will still hold hope for my recorded music.
What they’ve said does confirm it, you’re just choosing to misinterpret it. It’s very clear that it’s only the music they provide via Apple Music only, that is lossless.
Anything from the iTunes Store, or iTunes Match won’t be lossless, which rules out that part of iCloud Music Library.
About lossless audio in Apple Music - Apple Support
Learn about lossless audio in Apple Music and how to turn it on or off for your device.
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Again, that refers to stuff bought from the iTunes Music store, or iTunes Match matched music. Again I agree you are probably right, but we will not know until we can test it.What they’ve said does confirm it, you’re just choosing to misinterpret it. It’s very clear that it’s only the music they provide via Apple Music only, that is lossless.
Anything from the iTunes Store, or iTunes Match won’t be lossless, which rules out that part of iCloud Music Library.
About lossless audio in Apple Music - Apple Support
Learn about lossless audio in Apple Music and how to turn it on or off for your device.support.apple.com
It specifies only the Apple Music that they provide is lossless which you can then use the add to library function (which is what you screenshotted & I have attached a screenshot of that function), anything else is not lossless.
This is something that has been puzzling. Considering that AirPods Max is digital and it connects to both iPhone and iPad through lightning, a digital connection, wouldn’t just be a matter of transferring ALAC over this connection and voila. No need for going digital to analog to digital … would be just digital to digital?
What’s wrong with this? I think Apple may not be telling the entire story around the DAC limitations on AirPods Max … which is a but distressing. Otherwise this could an excellent solution for pure lossless goodness but can’t believe they have not thought of this.
Cheers.
What’s wrong with this? I think Apple may not be telling the entire story around the DAC limitations on AirPods Max … which is a but distressing. Otherwise this could an excellent solution for pure lossless goodness but can’t believe they have not thought of this.
Cheers.
Right now, there isn't a lightning to lightning cable for a pure digital transmission to the APM. The only connections are bluetooth (limited to AAC) and analog (via an extra DAC->ADC conversion, and it's this conversion that disqualifies it at truly lossless to Apple).
I know that. But why the cable that comes with the APM (lightning <-> USB-C) cannot do it when connected to a MacBook, iMac, iPad Pro? Why the need to go through an analog conversion when it could go digital to digtal?
This is what I’m asking … why the technical limitation when all the cables needed to a establish a digital to digital connection are there at least for the devices that make the most sense such direct connection?
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It could be that the APP's DAC is using hardware that is not recognized (currently) as a USB audio device. Yes it makes little sense as the same cable does allow iPads to be recognized as USB devices.
I get the feeling Apple Lossless was pre-released in a rush to the front gate before Spotify. While the ramifications of not having any full lossless capable devices ready on time had not been thought out.
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So can I use a camera adapter and my dragonfly red for Apple Music lossless? I want to dump qobuz since Apple Music lossless is free with my Apple Music subscription.
Tested now that lossless music went live. No, my 24x96 personal recordings were converted to 256 AAC when uploaded, tested by following these steps:
1. Remove the show from the Music app on my Mac (on my Mac as 24x96 ALAC, made sure I had a backup of it)
2. Once it was no longer registered on any device, added the show back in (at 24x96)
3. Choosing "Add To Library" on show.
4. Waiting until multiple devices showed the concert in the music app (so uploads to Apple POST lossless availability)
5. Choose "Remove Download" on one song
6. Downloaded the one via Music app, checked on music file information/size
7. The file was a 256 AAC, not the 24x96 ALAC that I had originally added to the Music app.
As I indicated MULTIPLE times, I was fairly certain you'd be correct, but the test HAD to be done, and I was hoping that you'd be wrong...
I'd be curious to see if at some point Apple DOES offer a lightning to lightning cable that supports lossless 24x48 for the AirPods Max, assuming that the DAC in the headphones is 24x48 (Since the iPhone also supports 24x48 audio). Then I guess you COULD have a way to get lossless with the AirPods Max without an additional DAC. The current cable, however, certainly does NOT support it since one end is Analog and it has a built in ADC. Would be cool if someone tested a USB>lightning cable with a 24x48 DAC attached to the iPhone. If you actually get audio then we can be sure that it DOES do lossless that way (since the cable would just be transmitting digital audio - there is no DAC in the USB-A > Lightning cable).
It would be cool if you tested that with Music app on your Mac and the C>Lightning cable and choosing the out via the AudioMidi App and seeing if you see 24x48 audio out and if you hear anything on the AirPods Max (be sure too have the bluetooth off on your Mac to ensure it is not going over BlueTooth). Again, if you actually hear music then we know it is working!