You don't understand how this works. There isn't a fixed number of sales as you suggest by your comment that "Apple is cannibalizing their own sales." If there were a fixed number of wireless sets sold each year, then Beats percentage going down would indicate that it lost sales to perhaps Airpod. But, quite the contrary, is happening-- the worldwide market for wireless is exploding in the positive sense an both Beats and Airpods are experiencing explosive growth, Airpods just grew faster in on line sales. No, because they had the vision to acquire Beats, Apple is winning with both brands.
Is this for "existing" bluetooth or the new v5 -would/could that be a simple firmware update pushed out by Apple? What's the data spec on dynamic range and frequency response for Bluetooth headphones/airpods? Is it like turning an uncompressed 24/192 BWF into a VBR mp3 by the time the analog signal hits your ear canal? Or is this now factored into the mp3/AAC conversion assuming that it will be streamed via Bluetooth? -Which could mean "harder compression" for this new tech so that the hardware doesn't have to work as hard recompressing the file for streaming?
It makes me wonder if there's any point in studios spending huge amounts of money on Neumanns, Royers, and Neve Mic pre's and DAWs that produce mix stems that can go way beyond 24/44.1 -or 48khz in Post. Maybe we can just slap an L1 on the Master bus, bounce it, use the Mastered for iTunes droplet (which is quite impressive if you tweak the settings to 320 CBR) and call it good.
Apparently convenience and fashion now trump audio quality. -But if consumers are just listening to (insert latest pop/rap here) and not orchestral or solo piano music, then they won't notice much difference anyway. I'm all for convenience, but it's kind of sad knowing that there's a whole generation (including part of my own) that has:
[a] Never experienced great recordings without data compression.
Have listened to so much mp3 and mp4 material that they have lost their ear-training.
[c] It's a+b and only recording engineers care about this of which I write.
Read if you like. The articles are still relevant:
http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/what-data-compression-does-your-music
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_compression#Audio
I'm thinking of stuff like the cassette tape and walkman here, but haven't convenience and fashion pretty much always trumped audio quality in the consumer space?Is this for "existing" bluetooth or the new v5 -would/could that be a simple firmware update pushed out by Apple? What's the data spec on dynamic range and frequency response for Bluetooth headphones/airpods? Is it like turning an uncompressed 24/192 BWF into a VBR mp3 by the time the analog signal hits your ear canal? Or is this now factored into the mp3/AAC conversion assuming that it will be streamed via Bluetooth? -Which could mean "harder compression" for this new tech so that the hardware doesn't have to work as hard recompressing the file for streaming?
It makes me wonder if there's any point in studios spending huge amounts of money on Neumanns, Royers, and Neve Mic pre's and DAWs that produce mix stems that can go way beyond 24/44.1 -or 48khz in Post. Maybe we can just slap an L1 on the Master bus, bounce it, use the Mastered for iTunes droplet (which is quite impressive if you tweak the settings to 320 CBR) and call it good.
Apparently convenience and fashion now trump audio quality. -But if consumers are just listening to (insert latest pop/rap here) and not orchestral or solo piano music, then they won't notice much difference anyway. I'm all for convenience, but it's kind of sad knowing that there's a whole generation (including part of my own) that has:
[a] Never experienced great recordings without data compression.
Have listened to so much mp3 and mp4 material that they have lost their ear-training.
[c] It's a+b and only recording engineers care about this of which I write.
Read if you like. The articles are still relevant:
http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/what-data-compression-does-your-music
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_compression#Audio
The tine of a plastic fork works pretty well for this.Check for lint in the connector. My iPhone 5 is nearly 3.5 years old and anytime there is a flaky connection it has always been lint. It will be so packed in there that it won't look like anything is there but if you dig around (with something non conductive is best) you will get stuff out.
NO, you guys are all wrong. They can't be any good because so many of the smart and rational posters here have demonstrated so much hate against them (and any apple product for that matter) and Tim Cook.
I love mine. They sound good for what they are, they are reasonably priced (except for all the people here who can't afford them--they natually bash them), they look good, they pair very easily, and on and on. But the haters will hate any and all things apple, or any other brand for that matter. That's why this forum is so entertaining, but pretty much useless for valid and reasonable opinions and value.
As long as it's an apple product people will buy it. If they were beats the same people would've been trashing it.
I hope they didn't expect to cannibalize too much... the AirPods don't compete with any Beats headphones. Totally different audience and user. These aren't workout headphones, so the PowerBeats line shouldn't lose much. They are over-ear, so the Studios and Solos shouldn't lose much. They are losing share to Bose and then losing to their own (cheaper) AirPods. Any company that releases a product that generates less revenue (and my assumption here, less profit) than it's existing lines will be in trouble long term. Do I think Apple is in trouble? No. But do I think there is not much to celebrate here, and actually some signs of concern? Yep.
This doesn't actually look great... Apple owns Beats. So they cannibalized their own sales, but the real winner was Bose. Their segment of the market increased during this same time period. Not much to celebrate if you're Apple.
This just points to a problem with the stagnant Beats lineup. Beats X will help, but the PowerBeats need a big overhaul to make them a more competitive sport / workout headphone (and just adding the W1 chip isn't enough), and the studio monitors need a big overhaul. The new Bose QC 35 is far superior to those Beats Studio Wireless cans. The new Bose SoundSports are great...much better than the PowerBeats.
The thing I like about them when first buying them was how easily they connected to the iPhone. Also the feel of the little egg in which they reside is grand. Only when in the store where I happily connected my brand new AirPods I learned that I could not alter volume nor skip to next/prior track, I was dumbfounded and asked for the money back. Even the person in the Store could not believe it. He even went to search the web and with ears hanging to the floor he returned and said "I'm sorry to have to inform you that this feature isnt available"-
I know MANY who have had similar experiences. NO one would even DARE to expect that those things would NOT be able to alter volume etc. Like you would not expect to buy a car with no motor or keys to start it...
Steve Jobs would have NEVER EVER signed off on this BS. Never. I wonder why Cook did. Personally, I dont Tim Cook has the faintest idea about intuition nor TASTE. I mean, can any of you imagine Cook trying those AirPods out for a week and NOT ONCE did he wish that he could turn down or up the volume without pulling his iPhone out the pocket ?????
This to me is like totally stupid. Isnt being an executive of a company about KNOWING and FEELING for the products you push out to the public ? How could any Chief Executive sign off on releasing something so flawed that even a deaf person never needing a headphone could tell would be a show stopper... (NO OFFENCE towards deaf people.)
Alice in Wonderland is now Cook in Wonderland !
I understand it quite well. I think you're actually missing it. Your argument works if this were about revenue, but I am only discussing % of market share, not revenue. The AirPods cannibalized a portion of Beats market share for items that shouldn't naturally compete with each other, and Bose came in and ate away at the % of market share Beats had. This just shows the Beats lineup is suffering, which I would hypothesize is because they've not improved them as much as their competitors have improved their offerings. Beats are simply less appealing than they were a few years ago.
To correct you, he is right,
For example (with simple numbers cause math is hard apparently for some)
Year 3016
50m total sales
Volume of sales: 20m to iPear: 15m to iBanana: 15 to iApple
Percentage in market share: 40% to iPear: 30% to iBanana: 30% to iApple
Year 3017
100m total sales
Volume of sales: 25m to iPear: 25m to iBanana: 50m to iApple
Percentage in market share: 25% : 25% : 50%
In this scenario that mimics wireless mArket, the actual volume of sales increased across the board because the market volume grew.
Despite having less Market Share, all companies grew.
Market share can also be impacted by market shrink and decline too.
So in regard to the headphones. The wireless market has started to grow quickly. Beats and apples own offerings, while competing. Can both have grown in sales, despite one growing it's market share over the other, without canibibalising sales.
Revenue in the market share statistics is completely irrelevant.
CRIPES ! I can't even begin to know where to start.....the capitals perhaps ?
The thing I like about them when first buying them was how easily they connected to the iPhone. Also the feel of the little egg in which they reside is grand. Only when in the store where I happily connected my brand new AirPods I learned that I could not alter volume nor skip to next/prior track, I was dumbfounded and asked for the money back. Even the person in the Store could not believe it. He even went to search the web and with ears hanging to the floor he returned and said "I'm sorry to have to inform you that this feature isnt available"-
I know MANY who have had similar experiences. NO one would even DARE to expect that those things would NOT be able to alter volume etc. Like you would not expect to buy a car with no motor or keys to start it...
Steve Jobs would have NEVER EVER signed off on this BS. Never. I wonder why Cook did. Personally, I dont Tim Cook has the faintest idea about intuition nor TASTE. I mean, can any of you imagine Cook trying those AirPods out for a week and NOT ONCE did he wish that he could turn down or up the volume without pulling his iPhone out the pocket ?????
This to me is like totally stupid. Isnt being an executive of a company about KNOWING and FEELING for the products you push out to the public ? How could any Chief Executive sign off on releasing something so flawed that even a deaf person never needing a headphone could tell would be a show stopper... (NO OFFENCE towards deaf people.)
Alice in Wonderland is now Cook in Wonderland !
JBL isn't even on that list?
I'm very happy with my JBL Everest 700 Elite.
loved my jaybirds until the damn silicone buds get slipping off and me losing them.I'm still going to get the JayBird X3. I loved the X2 (until my cat chewed the wire lol). Physical volume control is a must for me. Longer battery life too. I haven't tried the X3 yet, but I think the only thing AirPods had over the X2 was slightly better bass performance. Pricing is pretty much the same.
Yes, that sounds like a good idea. Try that and report back your findings which I am sure everyone are very interested in. While you're at it, sign up as a developer and write a quick caps-counting routine !
Well then you haven't owned much.Best I have ever owned..wired or wireless
The chart should read: Pre headphone jacks vs Post headphone jacks.
This doesn't actually look great... Apple owns Beats. So they cannibalized their own sales, but the real winner was Bose. Their segment of the market increased during this same time period. Not much to celebrate if you're Apple.
This just points to a problem with the stagnant Beats lineup. Beats X will help, but the PowerBeats need a big overhaul to make them a more competitive sport / workout headphone (and just adding the W1 chip isn't enough), and the studio monitors need a big overhaul. The new Bose QC 35 is far superior to those Beats Studio Wireless cans. The new Bose SoundSports are great...much better than the PowerBeats.
Well then you haven't owned much.
I do love my QC35. Amazing when travelling (or to filter out the kids and wife).
I know they are not the best according to audiophiles, but lucky for me, I don't have audiophile ears. That would be both a blessing and a curse, imho.
About the AirPods, I was sceptical, but colour me surprised. I wouldn't get them, though. I use earphones for the gym and buy cheap ones because I sometimes forget them in my short pockets and wash them... Surprisingly, they do last 2-3 washings!![]()