So I picked up a 'refurbished' Airport Extreme from Best Buy via mail order. My Netgear wifi router took a dive so I used my older Netgear router until the Airport Extreme arrived. Yes, I know Apple dissolved their router division but I figured it would get my by for a couple of years. The good: 1. The price was reasonable $105 2. Consumer Reports actually rated the router as one of the better routers for short to medium distances. They report that it slows significantly over long distances and many walls but I live in a medium size house so that isn't an issue for me. In my tests after setup, I was getting nearly my full direct cable connection speed (67 MBPs direct connection to cable and 66 MBPs over wifi at near and most distant spots in my house). The not so good: 1. It only has three ethernet ports. I like to hood up all my nearby equipment via ethernet as that gives you the best performance so I needed to get an 8-port gigabit switch ($24). Now my AppleTV, network drive, stereo, and Phillips Hue are hard wired to the network and I have extra ports available for other equipment. I no longer network the TV as Panasonic hasn't updated their TV OS in years so I don't bother as it is so very slow UI. 2. Best Buy really didn't 'refurbish' the router. It arrived with the previous owner's network info on it and I had to do a soft reboot to be able to enter my own preferences. 3. The Apple Airport software on the Mac and iOS is extremely limiting. I can't do much customization such as forcing the guest network on to the 2.4 GHz band. It only does that automatically. I also can't get a decent network map. It just lists the items attached but only on the MacOS version of the Airport control. Also, no control over signal strength. I'd like to be able to turn down the power so I'm only broadcasting to my house and not the whole neighborhood. All that said, would I do it again? Maybe. I do have improved wifi speed and once you setup a network, it is pretty much forget it.