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Airport Setup

that was an interesting thread...

i ordered my airport base station 2 days ago and it should come really soon.

i hope i won't have a difficult time installing it...

(i am sorry to say, i would have to connect a pc (just for temporary use))

there were a lot of "good" suggestions, but which one worked?
 
the last suggestion. with the links regarding reinstalling software as well as the hard reset; that helped me to do it right...

Good luck with the setup; should be somewhat easy
 
Happy it worked!!

Originally posted by redAPPLE
that was an interesting thread...

i ordered my airport base station 2 days ago and it should come really soon.

i hope i won't have a difficult time installing it...
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redAPPLE,

Don't worry. It'll work fine. I experimented and tried several different things and I essentially "painted myself into a corner".

Let me know if you have any difficulties -- I'm sure that I'll have the answers you need.

BadExample -- I am very happy to hear that you got it working. That "hard reset" thingy took me a long time to find, but once I found it, I was able to try out several different scenarios - several of which required a "hard reset". Also, if you need any additional assistance, I would be more than happy to help.

Take Care,
Quark
 
Re: Happy it worked!!

Originally posted by Quark


redAPPLE,

Don't worry. It'll work fine. I experimented and tried several different things and I essentially "painted myself into a corner".

Let me know if you have any difficulties -- I'm sure that I'll have the answers you need.

BadExample -- I am very happy to hear that you got it working. That "hard reset" thingy took me a long time to find, but once I found it, I was able to try out several different scenarios - several of which required a "hard reset". Also, if you need any additional assistance, I would be more than happy to help.

Take Care,
Quark
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hi quark.

i got this problem. maybe you could help me, if not, i guess there are a lot of helpful souls out there, who might be able to help me.

i will try to explain every detail and so you guys could understand.

i have an ibook, which is configured to a wireless internet connection (well, i had one, i messed up with the airportconfiguration, but i guess i could reinstall everything and it would work again).

in this setup, 1 rj45 cable is connected to the lan connection. the rj45 is connected to a 10/100 netgear hub. and the hub is connected to a cable modem.

my isp gave me 1 static ip address to use. i have the airport2 base station.

so here comes the "tricky" part. i bought a new iMac and i want to create a network (for file transfers between the iMac and ibook) and eventually, i want to share the internet connection so the iMac could be used to surf the net.

i would care to add some more details, but i would need some feedback, if everything is clear up to this point.

thanks in advance.
 
It's actually quite straightforward.

1) Set up the hub to use the IP address given to you by your ISP.

2) Set up the hub as a DHCP server.

3) Set your Macs to DHCP, and they will take an IP address from the hub.

That's all there is to it.:)
 
Not sure that I understand your setup. How and where is the Airport2 connected?

According to what you just wrote, you said you have the Airport2, but not connected to anything.

Ignore the HUB comments from the previous poster (no offense intended). I have never, ever heard of any HUB being configurable -- so I don't know what the previous poster is trying to say.

Here's my 2 cents:

1. Plug your cable modem directly into the Airport base station (WAN port).
2. Plug the HUB into the Aiport base station (LAN port).
3. Plug a Mac into the HUB
4. Configure and setup the Airport base station
5. done, now you should be able to unplug the Mac and use the wireless Airport network AND the wired HUB network.

If this doesn't work, I strongly recommend getting rid of the HUB and buying something called a switch - it looks like a HUB, but it works far more efficiently and cleanly with a Router/Gateway/Airport2 BaseStation.

I'm not sure that I fully understood your question and I hope that this helps.

Quark:)
 
Originally posted by Quark
Not sure that I understand your setup. How and where is the Airport2 connected?

According to what you just wrote, you said you have the Airport2, but not connected to anything.

Ignore the HUB comments from the previous poster (no offense intended). I have never, ever heard of any HUB being configurable -- so I don't know what the previous poster is trying to say.

Here's my 2 cents:

1. Plug your cable modem directly into the Airport base station (WAN port).
2. Plug the HUB into the Aiport base station (LAN port).
3. Plug a Mac into the HUB
4. Configure and setup the Airport base station
5. done, now you should be able to unplug the Mac and use the wireless Airport network AND the wired HUB network.

If this doesn't work, I strongly recommend getting rid of the HUB and buying something called a switch - it looks like a HUB, but it works far more efficiently and cleanly with a Router/Gateway/Airport2 BaseStation.

I'm not sure that I fully understood your question and I hope that this helps.

Quark:)
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No offense taken. I was using his terminology. He said hub, I assumed he meant router but used his term to avoid confusion.

I'm still not clear as whether or not the Airport2 is to be used at all...:confused:

The iMac needs to be plugged in all the time to the hub/switch/router.

If you are going to use the Airport2, you need to make sure that you UNcheck the distribute IP addresses option in the Network tab of the Airport Admin Utility. Otherwise your computers will not be able to see each other, they will be on different subnets.
 
Ok ok guys.

NO FIGHTING NOW!

:D

My "thing" is a Netgear Dual Speed "Hub" DS106.

Maybe someone could even explain, what a router, switch and a hub really is.

at work, the giant "hub" is called a switch. a router must be the same thing as a hub.

rower noted, i should setup the "hub" as a dhcp server. in regards to quark's comment, i, too, didn't even know, one could setup a hub as a dhcp server.
 
Originally posted by Quark
Not sure that I understand your setup. How and where is the Airport2 connected?

According to what you just wrote, you said you have the Airport2, but not connected to anything.

Ignore the HUB comments from the previous poster (no offense intended). I have never, ever heard of any HUB being configurable -- so I don't know what the previous poster is trying to say.

Here's my 2 cents:

1. Plug your cable modem directly into the Airport base station (WAN port).
2. Plug the HUB into the Aiport base station (LAN port).
3. Plug a Mac into the HUB
4. Configure and setup the Airport base station
5. done, now you should be able to unplug the Mac and use the wireless Airport network AND the wired HUB network.

If this doesn't work, I strongly recommend getting rid of the HUB and buying something called a switch - it looks like a HUB, but it works far more efficiently and cleanly with a Router/Gateway/Airport2 BaseStation.

I'm not sure that I fully understood your question and I hope that this helps.

Quark:)
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Ok. Right now, my ibook is wirelessly "connected" (wow. a cool oxymoron) to the internet. an rj45 cable is connected in the lan slot. this rj45 is connected to the hub. and an uplink cable (rj45), which is connected to the hub, runs to the wall socket (which my isp setup for me).

if i plug my cable modem directly to the base station, that would mean, i can only have a maximum throughput of 11 mbps, right?

that means, any other computer i connect to the hub (in the future) can only connect with 11 mbps, am i right in this assumption?

my hub is a 10/100 mbit netgear.
 
Originally posted by redAPPLE


Ok. Right now, my ibook is wirelessly "connected" (wow. a cool oxymoron) to the internet. an rj45 cable is connected in the lan slot. this rj45 is connected to the hub. and an uplink cable (rj45), which is connected to the hub, runs to the wall socket (which my isp setup for me).

if i plug my cable modem directly to the base station, that would mean, i can only have a maximum throughput of 11 mbps, right?

that means, any other computer i connect to the hub (in the future) can only connect with 11 mbps, am i right in this assumption?

my hub is a 10/100 mbit netgear.
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The 11 mbps is only for the wireless (802.11b) throughput, not the hardwired.

Although I would be amazed if you were getting anywhere near that kind of bandwidth with a commercial cable/dsl connection.
 
Let me try to explain... a little

Read this carefully, because it is easy to miss one of the points. It took me a while to understand this, so I'll try to explain in a simplified way.


HUB: A HUB is a device that connects several computers to each other. When a signal comes into the HUB, it is sent to EVERY computer on the HUB, even though only one of those computers is the actual recipient of the transmission. A HUB is a DUMB device that only sends a signal to all ports at the same time.

HUB ISSUES: Since it sends the signal to every port at the same time, if one of the other computers is trying to send a signal at the same time, it generates something called a "COLLISION". Two signals collide and try to go through the HUB at the same time. When this happens each computer retransmits the data until it gets through.

SWITCH: Almost identical to a HUB (externally), but internally it registers each computer connected to it. When a signal comes into the SWITCH, it is sent DIRECTLY to the ONE PORT that is the Recipient. So NONE of the other ports will be sent useless information. Collisions almost never occur with a switch. They do happen, but only when the two computers are trying to send information to eachother at the same time, and even then the switch usually handles it without a retransmission.

ROUTER: This is very different from a HUB and a SWITCH. What a Router does (also known as a Gateway) is it connects to a network (like your cable modem/ISP). It tells the network that it is the only computer connected and logged in. It allows you to connect a HUB to the ROUTER and the ROUTER will manage all the computers locally without letting the external network (cable modem/ISP/Internet) see them. So you can have five computers connected, each of them will have their own Dynamic IP address, so they can see each other, but when any of them go to the external network (Internet), the ROUTER makes it look like one computer.

ROUTER EXAMPLE:
iMac: 10.0.0.2 (IP Address)
iBook: 10.0.0.3 (IP Address)
iPad: 10.0.0.4 (IP Address)
iWalk: 10.0.0.5 (IP Address)
ROUTER/Airport2 BaseStation: 10.0.0.1 (IP Address, internal network, this is the address that your iMac, iBook, iPad, and iWalk will see)

Cable Modem: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (this number is provided by your ISP, usually dynamically/automatically) The ROUTER knows this number and that is what the ISP will see as the only computer connecting to the internet. So when the iMac connects to the Internet, it is actually connecting to the Router and the Router talks to the Internet for it. Same with the iBook, iPad, iWalk.

Your cable modem cannot transmit data faster than 10Mbs. Usually it won't transmit beyond 1-2 Mbs.

Your Airport2 BaseStation cannot transmit data faster than 11Mbs.

All the computers hardwired to the HUB will be able to send/receive data up to 100Mbs.

Ask me some more specific questions on any of the above and I'll try to explain with additional examples.

Quark:cool:
 
Re: Re: Let me try to explain... a little

Originally posted by Rower_CPU

Once again, this is the wireless bandwidth.

The LAN port going out to your hub is 10/100.

http://www.apple.com/airport/specs.html

But since the max you can get out of your cable/dsl modem is 10...:/
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Well, yeah, but that only matters if you are hardwired into a 10/100 network through the WAN port. If he is connecting the WAN port to the Cable Modem, it is irrelevant because the Cable Modem will not go beyond 1-2Mbps.

Context of the discussion... :rolleyes:

Quark
 
Re: Let me try to explain... a little

Originally posted by Quark


Ask me some more specific questions on any of the above and I'll try to explain with additional examples.

Quark:cool:
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You good man, mon.

Let me read it again carefully and should i have further questions, i'd bombard :D you with them.

thanks a lot.
 
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