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Originally posted by michael_aos
Actually you just type your WEP phrase into the Linksys, and it generates the 40-bit / 128-bit HEX for use on the Mac.

Mike

Note that to actually see the generated WEP key I had to save the Security settings (thus closing the window) and then open them again, this time the WEP key in Hex was on display.

Cheers, Edward.
 
Re: [OT] WGR614 question

Originally posted by sjk
Anyone know the maximum number of ports that can be forwarded with the WGR614 and whether TCP and UDP can be handled separately?

I've started doing a bit of wireless network product research since I'll probably have a couple new AE-capable Mac systems within a few months. For now I'm stuck using 802.11b with my iBook 600 Airport card so there's been no reason to upgrade my Linksys BEFSR41 (>5-year-old rev1 model) + Orinoco RG-1100 hardware, which has been very reliable with decent WLAN reception (better than I'd expected for a cement & chicken wire walled environment).

I know of no limit to the number of forwarded ports. I've had several dozen at once at times.
 
Originally posted by wordmunger
EDIT: I just realized why they don't have it there: it would mean anyone on an airport network could update the firmware. What if the new version of firmware messed up the airport connection for others on the network? This really is an advanced option, and so should probably be hidden somehow. It's definitely a tough problem.

I guess this does make sense...although it could be fixed in a variety of ways, like having an admin password for the AEBS (which home users could default to match their own password) or only letting admin accounts on the macs edit the AEBS settings. But it probably makes sense.

And I should say that the AEBS software is somewhat more intuitive than the web-based settings editing on the Linksys stuff I've used. Overall, the AEBS was pretty easy to use and I didn't really need to read any manuals to get anything working, including wireless printing.

Another newbie question. I set up the WPA personal just cuz it was there -- I don't use a particularly strong PW or anything. I guess from reading around a lot of PC users, esp, don't use any kind of security on their home wireless network. In fact, as I mentioned before, once I came home after having been gone for several days, and I turned my iBook on when my AEBS and cable modem etc were all turned off (I turned off the power strip), and it automatically logged me into someone else's 802.11 network.

So, is it quite common for people to run home 802.11, in apartments for instance, without any kind of security (WPA or WEP or even a basic password request)?
 

So, is it quite common for people to run home 802.11, in apartments for instance, without any kind of security (WPA or WEP or even a basic password request)?

Quite common in fact. In my college apartment here, i get 4 other wifi networks besides mine. 3 are complete default routers with 'admin' as the password, and the 4th one is my girlfriends wifi which i set up with MAC filtering.

even coffee shops and whatnot dont even change the admin password a lot of the time.
 
Originally posted by Engagebot
Quite common in fact. In my college apartment here, i get 4 other wifi networks besides mine. 3 are complete default routers with 'admin' as the password, and the 4th one is my girlfriends wifi which i set up with MAC filtering.

even coffee shops and whatnot dont even change the admin password a lot of the time.

Just remember MAC filtering alone will not keep people from viewing your transmissions and getting personal information. It just keeps people from logging on to you network.
 
I was having troubles with my wireless this morning (no signal) and then updated to 3.3 - however, now I can't get any signal at all from the base station. When I go to airport setup it says no networks found. I've reset the base station and I've turned it off for a while and then turned it back on, but nothing seems to work. I'm at a loss as to how to proceed next. Anyone have any ideas?



P.S. I don't have a 2.4ghz phone or anything else that would seem to interfere with the signal.
 
Re: [OT] WGR614 question

Originally posted by MacBandit
I know of no limit to the number of forwarded ports. I've had several dozen at once at times.
Sounds good, tho' the manual doesn't show it having the capability of forwarding TCP and UDP separately (like on my Linksys router)... only for outgoing port filtering.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
Just remember MAC filtering alone will not keep people from viewing your transmissions and getting personal information. It just keeps people from logging on to you network.

Stupid newbie admission: at first, until I read a website about it, I thought MAC filtering meant you set the base station to only work with Apple computers. :( Right along with someone here on Macrumors who has a tagline to the effect that virii do not target Macs and so no antivirus s/w is required.....

From what it is, it doesn't sound terribly secure....but I guess I still need to read more on what the difference between WEP, WPA, MAC, etc are.
 
Originally posted by mkrishnan
Stupid newbie admission: at first, until I read a website about it, I thought MAC filtering meant you set the base station to only work with Apple computers. :( Right along with someone here on Macrumors who has a tagline to the effect that virii do not target Macs and so no antivirus s/w is required.....

From what it is, it doesn't sound terribly secure....but I guess I still need to read more on what the difference between WEP, WPA, MAC, etc are.

Nearly ever networking device has a MAC address (Media Access Control) it's like a serial number for that device. It's a unique finger print that's very hard to impersonate. When you register a wireless network to a known MAC address what it means is you locked in the serial number for that device or devices and no other device can access the network unless you specifically add their MAC address. This however has nothing to do with encrypting data traffic.

If you want to know the bassic definitions of terms like WEP, MAC, WPA, TCP, IP, etc.. This is a great tech dictionary sight.

http://www.webopedia.com

About anti-virus. Unless transfer data back and forth from Macs to PCs theirs really no need for an anti-virus program on a Mac running OSX at this point. There may be need in the future but at this point there really isn't any viruses. The reason I mention PCs is you can still carry the virus on your computer and spread it to the PCs even though you are not yourself affected by it. Also you can get Word macro viruses but they really don't have any real affect on Macs as well.
 
I'm now experiencing connection problems (since upgrading to 3.3). My TiBook connects to a DreyTek 2600, now either after waking up from a sleep or if I haven't used the network for a while it just doesn't connect to various webservices even though the airport menu icon appears to be connected to my home nextwork??

Switching to an ethernet only network and then back again in the Location dropdown fixes the problem - needless to say it's a right pain in the arse.

Anyone know if it's possible to downgrade back to the previous version?
 
Originally posted by teetoo
I'm now experiencing connection problems (since upgrading to 3.3). My TiBook connects to a DreyTek 2600, now either after waking up from a sleep or if I haven't used the network for a while it just doesn't connect to various webservices even though the airport menu icon appears to be connected to my home nextwork??

Switching to an ethernet only network and then back again in the Location dropdown fixes the problem - needless to say it's a right pain in the arse.

Anyone know if it's possible to downgrade back to the previous version?

Try deleting you config and then readding it. I've had this problem with the old airport software before.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
If you want to know the bassic definitions of terms like WEP, MAC, WPA, TCP, IP, etc.. This is a great tech dictionary sight.

http://www.webopedia.com

I'm checking this out right now -- thanks!

Regarding virii, I do use Symantec, but only because my University offers it for free. It's been five years since I got a *PC* virus, so it's mostly a precaution.

But then again, back in the Amiga days, I got burnt by those stupid boot block virii...lame...can't believe this..."SOMETHING WONDERFUL IS HAPPENING" my butt.... :D Then again, back then people who wrote virii would put in cool 3D graphics displays to make up for ruining your software!
 
Remember to load the firmware & run Permissions

Originally posted by Trekkie
i hope it fixes my random 'have to go down into the garage and power cycle it because the whole network disappears' feature.
Thanks, now I don't feel alone having to recycle power to AirPort.

AirPortExtreme with a Dr.Bott Omni Antenna has worked flawlessly with my MacSense xRouter MIH-130 tied into SprintBroadband microwave, until this AirPort update came along.

I dutifully downloaded and installed the update in 1st my G3 iBook with non-extreme AirPort card, and later in my G4 (no AP card) which is tied by Ethernet cable to the AirPort Extreme Base Station, (and then the xRouter spreads Ethernet to various Printers and such).

Well, I wanted to wait to upload the new Firmware 5.3 until I was on the G4 and thus hardwired to the AirPort base station ...but I forgot, until last night when the "disappearing network" problem started.

Couldn't figure out why my iBook kept loosing internet access with a strong AP wireless signal indicated, while on the G4 it showed access was up and doing fine hardwired to the Broadband modem. The AirPort Base Station had to be the problem? Unplugged the AP and plugged it back in, and that resolved the problem...until the next episode, and the next... :mad:
Then I remembered the yet to be installed firmware and update on the G4. :(

First the AP update Install, then into the Utilities folder, run AirPort Admin Utility, and the firmware update was typically easy. :)
No more AP problems since! :D

However, while I got used to running Permissions with Disk Utility regularly in Jaguar, since Panther I've become, well ...neglectful. Oops! :eek:

This time when I ran it on the iBook, Permissions had to handle an iTunes update, and a bunch of new installs that did not get taken care of at the time. Good grief, there was a steady stream of thousands upon thousands of corrections...on and on and on. At least I could see some progress as the blue bar crept across my screen. I noticed a lot of localization files (languages) being corrected, so when Permissions were done I ran DeLocalizer, which removed several hundred MB of useless language files.

All clean! :D Works fine!
 
Why choose between them? Choose both!!!

Originally posted by mangoman
Thanks, all. This is good info to weigh in the coming days... If anyone else wants to weigh in on the reliability of using Airport Extreme over a hard-wired router, please do so. Again, thanks.

I have ran Airport networks in my house of varying configurations including by cable or dialup modems... Here is my suggestion:

I have one iMac designated as a network server for my house (which just means that its never to be turned off or everyone else loses their internet until its back on). Running 10.3.2, it works flawlessly and full-time in this capacity. The iMac has an 802.11b card and is connected directly to the cable modem via 10/100 Ethernet only. The cable modem is pulling speeds of up to 3 Mbps, and this does not even come close to the theoretical limits of 802.11b. All other computers in the house recieve hi-speed through 802.11b. There is NO Airport Base Station because the server uses its own AirPort card as a base station to share the Internet connection with the other Macs. I don't notice any speed difference between the Mac directly connected to the net and the Airport connected Macs.. however, there is one difference I will note that does not matter to anyone except online gamers. The Macs connected by Airport will have a slightly higher ping time because of the extra time added by routing the signal over wireless.. so if ping-time is an issue for a gamer in your house, make sure their computer is the server connected directly to the cable.. The overall throughput is the same however.

The truth is, in many cases--if not most--users don't need a dedicated Airport Base Station when all they need to do is put one of their existing Mac's Airport cards into full-time use. Just open the System Preferences Sharing panel and click on the last tab "Internet". This is where you can choose to setup the Airport Card as a base station. Simply select Airport in the list, click the setup tab to name the network and set a password for it (hint: Use an 11 char password for effective 128-bit security), and then back in the Internet panel, click the start button. The AP signal strength indicator icon in the menu bar (if shown) will change to show an upward arrow symbolic of the fact that your iMac's Airport is now being used as an uplink.

OS 9 users have an option in their Airport controls called Software Base Station which if fairly equivalent. OS 10-10.2 has a bug where System Preferences does not remember the state of Internet Sharing after a reboot, so I do not recomment them. OS 9 is OK for full time dedicated internet serving by software base station, as is OS 10.3 (ideal).

Save the hundreds of dollars you would spend on the extraneous base station, and donate half of it to me for the excellent advice! ;)
 
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